He is a Michigan man and I live that about him.
help i've been transported back in time to Jim Tressel's hiring help
He is a Michigan man and I live that about him.
As a WR/PR he would be a Heisman worthy player who would do well versus elite teams. It is a credit to his work ethic that he has gone as far as he has as a QB. But as we all see he is too limited as a QB to be a championship-caliber quarterback.
In what world do you live in where Denard "hurts" our program? I'm not sure there's a more likable player in all of major sports. I don't care how pissed/hurt/frustrated you are after this game; I feel worse for him than I could ever dream of being pissed about this game. Watching him play, for all his worts, has been the most fun I've ever had in my Michigan fan-hood.
Your Michigan fan hood probably goes back about ten years at most.
Denard is a wonderful human being, but he is clearly limited as a qb and has not really improved in three years. How is it unreasonable to think we may be better off with a different qb situation?
I would say Denard was the lone bright spot during the worst 3 years of Michigan football of my life, and he gave us a sugarbowl championship. Thus, we might be a better offense with a different quarterback, but you could say that about 99 percent of teams, and I don't think he hurts the program at all. Also, to say that he hasn't improved in three years is nonsense.
In two weeks we start B1G play. Yes i am pissed about how bad this team played tonight, but we still can win the B1G and go to the Rose Bowl.
Very frustrating game. I love Denard and I'll be sad to see him graduate, but nearly every time he's gone up against a good defense he's made terrible mistakes. Three of his picks tonight were just... bad. Very encouraging game from the defense, however. Can still win the Big Ten, but it's going to be tough if our QB can't tighten things up. And I don't really think he will. He's just not a good passer. Pain!
The one positive I take from this terrible game is that our defense looked pretty good. If Borges can get away from the uncessary trickery and Denard learn a little discretion we'll be fine.
is getting tatted the Fuck up.
Would have loved to beat them, would feel a lot better tonight, but what was everyone expecting, long term? That ND was just going to bring in top recruiting classes annually, pay top dollar for coaches annually, have a ton of fan support annually, and lose annually?
We're a flawed team, and it showed. The good news is we can still win the Big Ten and have a Rose Bowl season.
The bitch is that we (Denard, Borges) played so bad and yet we still had a great chance to beat a team that embarrassed Sparty last week. Based upon what happened today I will be really disappointed if we somehow end up losing to MSU next month.
We were in a position to win at the end despite playing the worst offensive game of the Hoke era. We're not terrible. We're not perfect, either, but we are a good team and will have success this season.
And MSU was very unimpressive today. I say the only way they beat us this year is if Shoelace has a repeat performance of what we just saw tonight.
Don't think Dantonio isn't absorbing every bit of this film to figure out how to replicate this performance. MSU is going to play us tough no matter how bad their offense may be.
Not saying you're wrong in any way, but how often do even average college teams turn the ball over six times? Dantonio and Narduzzi can't replicate that...hopefully.
The game is over. ND is now irrelevant for Michigan. I highly recommend not caring what comes of ND.
To HELL with Notre Dame and their French whore-assess. God this game sucked to watch. Good game by the defense overall. Denard killed his own team but at the same time they still should have won (yes, should).
How? They didn't do anything on offense. Their sole TD came as the result of a stupid PI by a true freshman.
Eff me...I swear I didn't hit save twice.
Bud Light Lime-a-Ritas are good.
Also, at this point who are you legitimately worried about vs. us in conference play?
Purdue, Nebraska and Ohio. All on the road......I think we can win every game but I also know we could lose every game. I think we'll go 2-1 in those games and make the championship game. At home vs the B1G, other than MSU, we should be able to win without major issues.
Or maybe they haven't played anyone yet? Lets be honest, we played like shit tonight, any time a team has 6 TO you should be winning by a lot more than 1 touchdown. They've played Navy, Purdue, and Michigan State. Navy sucks this year, Purdue almost beat them, MSU was overhyped, and well we know what happened tonight. Great, Notre Dame is 4-0, but they will still be going to some shit bowl at years end.
Notre Dame never plays anyone...but they still always manage to screw up a game they shouldn't by now. I think they're finally legit.
Really? MSU, Mich, USC, Stanford on their schedule every year (and thats without even thinking, there might be more). I'm all for ND hate but comeon man.
Boston college, south florida, syracuse, tulsa, navy, uconn? These are all games they've lost at home recently. They regularly beat up on stanford until 2009.
but ND was the better team today....we should of won that game.
Over/Under 5,000 articles about the luck of the Irish this week.
Had to hear the end of the game on the radio because I was on the road. You would have thought Tommy Rees came in and looked like Montana and the Irish were the Tide.Never mind the fact that we turned the ball over six times and still lost by a score or 13-6. Still not sold on ND being a BCS contender. Not with the QB situation they have. Hats off the the Irish anyway.
Knowledge said Michigan would win. What's going on??????????
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE ANYMORE
If The Knowledge's overall prediciton for the season is correct we should win out.
THE_KNOWLEDGE doesn't make predictions, he/she just reports from the future.
...is it worse having your heart ripped from your chest the way the ND fans have had it done to them over the last three years, or is it worse knowing that with 6 (SIX!!!!!!) turnovers committed by the early 3rd quarter, you had no business being in a game on the road that you still only lose by one touchdown?
I love Denard, but bless his heart, he makes Tim Tebow look like Tom Brady. It wasn't the game plan that a smart coordinator would have called for him, but his execution was horrendous.
BCS is safe
I disagree strongly. Hats off to them for not shooting themselves in the foot as they have been wont to do in years past but I still think they're overrated. The defense is nowhere near as good as what NBC would lead you to believe. We gashed them consistently until we either coughed it up or got a stupid penalty. I can take solace in the fact that ND will not make a BCS bowl this year and Michigan still has a very good shot at the Rose Bowl. Our defense was impressive tonight, and Borges just needs to install an electrode in the seat of Denard's pants to trigger when he should take off.
Hey! that electrode is a damn fine idea
It's an instinct. Braxton miller has it. Denard doesn't.
Their offense was horrible. We won game with three more instances of execution despite about 40000 turnovers.
Love their defensive front, but the secondary was full of holes. We just simply could not execute. Our picks were to two twice and then simply god awhile throws, not fb induced. Still love shoelace though and I am going to send him out with love (if he beats msu into the dirt and perhaps beats ohio also).
This game was an anomaly. Our quarterback had an atrocious game, and we didn't have a QB Plan B. I love Denard, and attribute many of our wins to him, but tonight was a bad night for him, and we should have had a back-up plan/qb. We played better than I expected, especially the defense. I think this season still looks bright.
ND is not a very good football team. College football this year is not very good. The B1G is also the worst conference this year.
Also, if a genie had told you before the season that we'd lose to ND but beat Sparty would you have taken that? Looks like that's gonna happen at this rate.
If we so much as *halve* our mistakes, we win the game.
This was an opportunity for a senior QB to step up and really lead the team and just could not get it together. Almost of the opinion that Bellomy should have gotten a shot in there if for nothing else than to just calm down Denard.
I guess it also makes me feel better that I did not pull the trigger on about $350 for two tickets to the Nebraska game, if nothing else the prices should drop.....
Ugh Lou Holz is going to have a field day. He'll likely say something to the effect of Notre Dame winning the next 10 national titles.
Lou Holtz = Droopy the dog
I'm not even really upset about the outcome of the game. Well, I am. But I'm much more upset about the collective fellatio the sports media will perform on Notre Dame over the next several weeks.
Snowflake moment: Look at the Big Ten. We are totally going to the Rose Bowl this year.
Hoping it was just a little boo-boo.
Honestly, the trajectory of this team is very similar to last year. The B1G is down and we seem to be (defensively) be improving as we go. There is not a B1G team that we should not beat going forward.
Serious question: was this the worst Michigan QB performance of all time? Love denard, but I cannot think of any worse off the top of my head.
I can and they involve Steve T and Tate. Maybe chad or John. Know your place. Without Denard this program was on the brink of becoming invisible. He went 2-1 against ND. How many M qb's went 3-0? None. Ever.