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I expect Lewan to remember
I expect Lewan to remember this next year. We've heard about his mean streak, next year I'd love to see what he does in response.
Those who stay will be champions.
LIFETIME RECORD VS TSIO 58-43-6
Hopefully
It doesn't involve playing as badly as he did today. When he got beat by a three man rush, all I could do was curse ALOT.
It's tough being Blue in Columbus!!!
I am not
sure if you watched the game, but MSU was blitzing almost every play. I don't even remember them bringing only 3 on any play.
Maybe you turned it off early...
It happened late, while we were driving down 28-14 I think.
Was this after or before he
Was this after or before he was injured by cheap shots?
I didn't turn it off, but must have missed seeing it on that
play. I don't see how one play on a three man rush, equates to Lewan having a terrible day though. The reason the o-line looked overwhelmed most of the day is because of the blitzes and the fact that Borges was doing nothing from a playcalling standpoint to exploit or combat them. Honestly, I really don't blame the players for what happened in this game, offensively. Borges and his playcalling put them in a bad spot. Most of the blame should be put squarely on Borges.
Really? You honestly don't
Really? You honestly don't blame the players? And yes, Lewan and Schofield took a double team to a defensive lineman and he just split right through them for the sack (fourth quarter).
- Denard overthrew half his passes or was late. Some was pressure, some were him just overthrowing the ball.
- The offensive line weren't picking up the linebackers well on blitzes and let their linemen dominate us. No running game at all.
- Our defensive line was god awful, no push at all until the fourth quarter against a supposed horrible offensive line. Ends consistently let the running backs outside
- Our linebacking corps was non-existent.
- Defense as a whole weren't tackling well and gave up the extra two or three yards by not finishing and letting them fall forward or not wrapping them up. Gave up a touchdown instead of just a field goal by Floyd whiffing on a tackle.
- Our secondary weren't horrible, but they definitely weren't about 'average'.
So you really think that our players aren't to blame? Borges shold be blamed for a lot, I never liked the hire to begin with and only one week I actually thought that he might be okay (Minnesota with lots of looks). I think Mattison did fine, just the players didn't perform.
There was one play where they
There was one play where they brought 3, I think it was the one that brought Gardner in on the final drive. The DE did a spin move on Lewan and he was gone. It was really bad.
Quick! To the Hindenpeter!
Not sure that was Lewan's fault
I think he expected Schofield to pick that up or help.
That probably is true, still
That probably is true, still when it is 3 against 5 you think your o-line should be able to handle that and give the QB some time.
Quick! To the Hindenpeter!
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October 15th, 2011 at 4:25 PM | I am not (Score:1)
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sure if you watched the game, but MSU was blitzing almost every play. I don't even remember them bringing only 3 on any play.
Spartans actually sacked Denad with a 3 vs 5 rush.
Poor play calling
Borges saw the blitzes from up top. He should've called more screen and quick slant passes. Or, you know, QB runs, since that got us most of our first downs.
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"I recently heard from fans and friends that Michigan will be great again one day. In my opinion, Michigan never stopped being great." --Zac Ciullo
That pretty much summed up the game for Sparty.
ALOOOT of taunting after every play from the opening kickoff, lots of after the whistle fighting, and a few cheap shots. They won the game, but they disgraced themselves and the state of Michigan in the process.
"that's why you don't go to Ohio State, Lawrence"
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Easy example:
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"that's why you don't go to Ohio State, Lawrence"
Some dickwad on MSU
pointed the ball at Denard as he was returning the Pick 6.
Yep, that's Simba made out of a pineapple.
To the winners go the spoils.
To the winners go the spoils. Fine. If that's the way they wish to carry themselves, well, that's more of a damning statement about them than anything else.
BUT KNOW THIS.....Michigan State has an ass-whipping headed their way next season in Ann Arbor. That old lady named Karma is a real bitch, and a vindictive one at that.
Karma goes by another name,
Karma goes by another name, Wisconsin.
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I'm trying to remember when Lamarr threw a punch.
Ummmm
One of those was a penalty. Woodleys hit was not a late shot. Keep trying Sparty
Michigan is at least two recruiting classes
from being able to compete with MSU, Wisconsin, OSU and Nebraska. Hoke and his coaches know this. MSU is a better team. Being realistic encourages improvement.
I remain in my belief that Hoke and his staff would not have recruited DR. Though he is a fine football player he is not a big time QB. Good defenses (not great like LSU and Alabama) will corral him everytime.
MSU loses their
MSU loses their captain/starting QB of three years after this season. Their best WR also graduates. Nichol is gone. Their only notable returns will be Worth, Gholston, and Bell, and that's if Worthy and Gholston elect not to leave early to make bank.
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Hoke is going to run Sparty
Hoke is going to run Sparty into the ground long haul. State may have won the game, but Hoke is demolishing them in the recruiting war.
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That Hoke Is But
It is hard to criticize SpartyCoachDickhead about re-creating the rivalry. This is similar to the way that Bo made the UM/OSU game such an incredible event every single year.
I think that it will be interesting to see how SpartyCoachWorstFuckingHumanBeingEver will recruit now that Hoke is killing it in-state as the Sparties don't have a national attraction. If they die in Michigan, then they should be hyperventilating about having quality recruits.
The only high profile
The only high profile recruits they got even during Rodriguez were die hard Sparty fans. Last year I think Rod out recruited Dantonio in state. Hoke is just flat out killing it in state, in Ohio, and other parts of the country.
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Sitting in the stands
I sat first row to see the players walk in. TL was pissed yelling back at some State player who was taunting him. A trainer had to keep pushing Lewan back. Hoke was walking behind Lewan and saw it all happen. From what I saw I didn't see Hoke say anything to Lewan. Hoke actually entered the tunnel with D. Gardner talking to him
Try not to become a man of success but rather to become a man of value.
offensively, we didn't play well
We need to understand; this is their Super Bowl!
They're going to do anything to win.
We also can't keep looking
We also can't keep looking down on them, saying that it doensn't matter, our biggest rival is OSU. We've lost 4 straight to MSU and 7 to OSU. We should be doing anything (with class) to win.
Those who stay will be champions.
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Disagree
I'm looking down on them big-time after this game -- I can't imagine a team less worthy of any respect whatsoever.
actually the only correct
actually the only correct response is to continue to look down on them. Giving them respect they don't deserve is how you turn this into acceptable behavior. State is a joke in every way imaginable and they could beat us 15 times in a row and it would still be true. There are bigger things than winning a football game, but to state when playing us that isn't true, and thats why they will always be a joke.
The film from this game needs
The film from this game needs to be the Big Ten's "How not to call a game" offseason teaching tool for the officials.
Lewan has every right to be pissed, MSU
probally played the dirtiest game I have seen in a while. Late hits galore, a punch thrown and taunting. I would be pretty pissed to if my QB was injured on one of those late hits and the guy who punched me wasn't even thrown out of the game.
Even if UM had won I would be saying the same thing about MSU's dirty and classless play. It was a fucking embarrassing to the the Big Ten to have that on display. If Dantonio had any class he would have taken Gholston out of the game himself.
Honestly I've seen very
Honestly I've seen very similar games (penalty-wise) in the AU/UA games (Iron Bowl). Its sad to see it in the B1G.
But Chris Speilman said "Mark
But Chris Speilman said "Mark Dantonio represents clean, hard hitting football." He can't be wrong!
<sarcasm>
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Spielman also said during the
Spielman also said during the replay of the punch "He's out" (as in, he's going to get tossed out). Gholston sat a play then came back in. The announcers didn't even utter a peep.
Spielman did talk about how
Spielman did talk about how Dantonio needed to be accountable for how his players act on this field, and implied that Gholston should've sat on the bench.
The guy allows people to come
The guy allows people to come back to his team from freaking jail without missing a play. You expected him to sit Ghoulston?
"Nobody cares what you think!"
Yeah, I thought the
Yeah, I thought the announcing crew handled it pretty well. They're never going to say exactly what they feel in cases like this. Spielman also said something like, "I'm not saying Gholston's a dirty player, but he looks like one when he does things like that."
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Dantonio and class don't belong within the same sentence, paragraph, post, webpage or universe.
The Lions cut Aaron Gibson midseason
for throwing a punch in a professional game, Blount was kicked off the team for most of a year for similar behavior at Oregon, so it stands to reason that Dantonio will do nothing.
"that's why you don't go to Ohio State, Lawrence"
Double post, dumb
gateway error.
My
bad. Triple post.
Seems uncharacteristic
I've come to expect nothing but class and integrity from everyone in that program and their fans. They in no way have a crippling inferiority complext that 1,000 straight wins will never cure.
I'm not a violent person
but I wouldn't have blamed Michigan if they bum rushed MSU's dirty players.
I wouldn't be upset, and
I wouldn't be upset, and might even cheer, a pair of torn ACLs for Jerel Worthy and William Gholston.
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Not a penalty on Woodley
That is the difference!!
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Sparty math. You're pointing out two calls over many years (one of which was debatable). That's nothing. Sparty had six cheap shot penalties, including a punch and a head-twist, in one game.
The hit that knocked robinson out was bush league. If we ever beat OSU like this, I hope we see some of our players taken out of the game and hole chew then up in the locker room.