End of game taunting incident
October 15th, 2011 at 4:56 PM ^
That is the difference!!
October 15th, 2011 at 5:29 PM ^
Sparty math. You're pointing out two calls over many years (one of which was debatable). That's nothing. Sparty had six cheap shot penalties, including a punch and a head-twist, in one game.
October 15th, 2011 at 6:31 PM ^
With woodley It wasnt intentional. They were deliberately trying to hurt him.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:57 PM ^
Take that "wishing injuries on opposing players" stuff to MLive or Bucknuts.
October 15th, 2011 at 5:46 PM ^
Did Worthy get busted for any personal fouls, or get away with anything dirty? Seemed like most of it was focused on Gholston.
October 15th, 2011 at 8:00 PM ^
Gholston (2), Adams, Worthy and Rush. There was also the horse collar on Odoms's punt return, but I don't remember who it was on--it was hard enough to remember our roster, let alone to know theirs with no names on the jerseys.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:31 PM ^
Personal foul penalties are nothing compared to a win over Michigan. They punched us in the mouth on every play and dared us to punch back. We didn't. Offensive line was steamrolled and their supposedly tattered offensive line took it to us. Disgusting.
EDIT: Meant as response to Jon Benke above.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:40 PM ^
Sometimes literally
October 15th, 2011 at 4:32 PM ^
on the final play? Why was State running the ball?
October 15th, 2011 at 4:35 PM ^
The Toons were high-fiving Rush (44) on the sideline after he put that hit on Denard. Next thing you know, he was back in the game.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:36 PM ^
I'm going back from the ledge and taking the long view wherein our recruiting will continue to get better (far better than Sparty's) and that the Mattison effect will continue in time (we had the ball down 7 before the pick 6 bs...). I hope that Taylor Lewan remembers this outcome and thinks about it daily for about a year.
October 15th, 2011 at 5:58 PM ^
Our defense, as long as the guys coming in live up to their potential, is going to be down right filthy. T-Rich and Countess playing side by side with Wilson laying the boom at safety will make QBs have nightmares. And Pipkins/Beyer(unless he sticks at LB)/Brown/Black/Wormley/Strobel/Ojemudia/Godin/Ash provide quality depth on the Dline. And do we even need to talk about the haul at LB coming in to go along with Ryan/Gordon/Demens/Morgan? Stone, Ringer, Ross, Boldin are going to be studs with the coaching they're going to get. So yeah, I'm not too worried about this little Sparty party going on, as we're going to see big improvements with the big improvements in recruiting, where as MSU will remain pretty much on the same level now.
As for offense, we need to worry about life after Molk. The tackles are stacked now with Magnuson and KK coming into the fold. Question is, who will start, and who will play behind Lewan for a couple year (unless they feel Schofield can do the job)?
October 15th, 2011 at 4:39 PM ^
State always has been and always will be classless. This game is their existance and they resent the fact that historically and traditionally OSU and ND represent bigger rivalries. This will not happen next year. And Despite a now 4 year streak, MSU still can't out recruit Michigan.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:57 PM ^
classless? like what our idiot Mike Hart said? to me, that was classless, and spawned sparty.
October 15th, 2011 at 5:01 PM ^
I'm sick of hearing this Mike Hart crap. Thats no excuse for the poor play on the field.
October 15th, 2011 at 5:46 PM ^
Ïf you think MSU was all class before 2007, you haven't followed this rivalry long.
October 15th, 2011 at 5:54 PM ^
I did not like what MH said when he said it. But to think that started this is ridiculous.
October 15th, 2011 at 6:00 PM ^
Sooo are you trying to say something that was said in a post-game interview is equal to punching a guy in the face during a game, and personal fouls abound? And taunting during a game?
Yeah...you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:40 PM ^
indy, I totally agree. The taunting incident has no purpose even being a thread on this board. I am more concerned about our play then if the other team "taunted" me or "played dirty". Why is it that when we lose, that this kinda crap comes up? Grow up. Let MSU deal with these problems.
Im not one for whining, and im SURE, Michigan players like Molk and Lewan arent either
October 15th, 2011 at 4:54 PM ^
spartans followed and taunted the Wolverines as they walked towards the end zone tunnel. The spartans probably got as deep asthe 15 yard line with this. Totally bush. Something one would see in the SEC. This was a significant event and one you won't hear the last of. Karma will be brutal towards msu next week when they play Wiscy.
October 15th, 2011 at 5:16 PM ^
I'm more concerned about our play, too.
That being said, when the other team takes 4 (?) personal foul penalties, 3 (?) of which are late hits to our quarterback, and 1 of which knocks him out of the game, I get pissed off. When the last touchdown they scored to make it 28-14 should have been negated due to taunting before the player got to the endzone, I get pissed off.
The Spartans are a bunch of bush league assholes and yes, we could have played better, but it's still a relevant topic.
October 15th, 2011 at 5:25 PM ^
basically sums of my thoughts. I don't see how any UM fan wouldn't be pissed off watching that crap, regardless of the outcome.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:41 PM ^
we played like bitches, and Msu treated us like bitches. we got out coached out played and out toughened.
October 15th, 2011 at 5:14 PM ^
What happened happened, but SOMETHING needs to be done, whether it is the Big Ten or MSU, that kind of stuff can't happen again
October 15th, 2011 at 5:33 PM ^
Taunting is a long, proud sparty tradition.
October 15th, 2011 at 5:40 PM ^
If Taylor Lewan focused his energy on his game, which generally stunk today.
The one thing that today's game confirmed in my mind is the their dufus prick coach either (1) cannot control his players on the field or on campus, or (2) actually coaches them to play dirty.
And what is he so pissed off at? You look at his face and think of a guy who never got laid and is therefore pissed at the world.
October 15th, 2011 at 6:04 PM ^
Would not suprise me in the slightest if they had a bounty on Denard's head or for knocking any of our guys out of the game.
October 15th, 2011 at 5:49 PM ^
the issue is that they were making dirty plays and seemed to be deliberately trying to injure Denard (grabbing his facemask and twisting after a late hit) and then the roughing the passer. I'm sure there were more I didn't see. That shouldn't be tolerated at all. Yep, we lost, and our play wasn't that great, and I have no issue with a clean loss. But when someone tries to deliberately injure a player from the other team, they should be called out, and if their coach doesn't put a stop to it (sits them for one play and then puts them back in), then the league should step in and start vacating wins or penalizing the team. Taunting and classless stuff like that is silly and poor sportsmanship, but the real concern is trying to injure other players. That's not sports, it’s assault.