Oh, wow.....EMU fired Ron English.
Starting to make the rounds on Twitter now.
Oh, wow.....EMU fired Ron English.
Starting to make the rounds on Twitter now.
Don't care what his other job prospects were, that job is an absolute dead end that can only set your career back. At least Wheatley got out while he could. Hart most likely will have to go to the high school level or smaller division and work his way back up.
Hart's not all that big. Could we sneak him into our backfield for a few weeks? He'd blend in.
But he'll for for -2 yards behind the O line
I'm not sure you know who Mike Hart is...
that have made me laugh on a regular basis through the years.
AC with a step and the ball in the air made me smile and laugh.
Woodson with position on a receiver, confusing the issue of just who the receiver was going to be.
Denard hitting the secondary with grass in front of him.
And Mike Hart - I laughed out loud when he finally fumbled a football. Mike Hart would disappear under a pile of large bodies and the pile would move.
Completely agree. That program will never be able to compete. I hope Brady hires Mike Hart for something. It would be nice if Mike can replace Fred Jackson whenever he decides to retire.
I only want the best coaches here. If that's Mike Hart than I'm fine with it but if there are better candidates out there I'll take them.
Exactly. People piss and moan about undue loyalty to coaches that are not doing well and then make statements like this. If a OSU alum is the best coach for our RBs and wants the job, I don't care. Bring him onboard.
For the record, I never said I didn't want the best coach. I just think Mike would be a good fit as a RB coach. If there is someone better who happens to be a former buckeye or spartan, fine. Winning is clearly the most important thing.
Exactly! Maurice Clarett, come on down!!!!
Agreed. Enough with bring Wheatley back, bring Hart back, get Hutchinson or Backus in as OL coach. Get the BEST DAMN COACHES OUT THERE THAT STILL WANT TO COACH AT A FORMERLY ELITE PROGRAM and I I could care less if they are from the Ukraine or Vietnam. Enough with recyling old players UNLESS they are considered the top 5% of coaches at their positions.
to be fair, Wheatley is probably an ideal hire for this team. But Mike Hart... he'll probably end up coaching in the FCS next year.
No, when Freddy J retires we want Brandon to throw money at Tyrone Wheatley to get him away from the Buffalo Bills.
I would be perfectly fine with Tyrone's being a RB coach.
IMO, in a case like Wheatley, he probably is the best coach for that position that is even remotely realistic. That's not necessarily because of the coaching aspect itself (where there may and probably are options that are similar), but because of his connections in the area, his love for the school, his understanding of the program, and those sorts of recruiting advantages that go along with the fact that he appears to be very good at the coaching aspect of it as well.
That said, I doubt he would come back because I think for his career goals he's better off at where he is.
Michigans is number 2 on the sports revenue list. They can spend money and get just about anyone they want but, they have to spend the money. Hoke base salary is under 2 mill a year while the top coaches in college are making 5-6 mill a year. Our assistant coaches might be making good money for the big ten but nationally they are below average.
Base doesnt matter, total does. Hoke is making $4M+ total per USA today story this week. He is 2nd highest in the Big 10. For half a million more you can get Urban Myer. He has no excuses about budget. Mattison is one of the top 15 highest paid assistants in America. Hoke makes double what Dantonio does.
Don't penalize him because he also happens to be a "Michigan Man"
Hart would also be a great 2nd option. He'd be an incredible recruiter and team with Roy Manning to give us some life and some youth in our coaching staff. Wheatley would do the same.
I'd have no issues if Wheatley was the next RB coach. I'd also like to find a new TE/Special Teams coach. Our blocking from the TEs has been horrible our special teams blocking has been even worse.
OR, I'd let the TEs split time with Heck (WRs) and Funk (OL) and hire a QB coach.
Because former great players are good for recruiting. Players want to do what they did with their career so they assume they know how to get them there. We know that coaching and playing are two different things, but young players don't always think like that. That being said I have no idea what makes a good running back coach. I am only assuming if he's coaching in the NFL, was a former UM great, then he's a good fit. But, what really makes a RB coach good?
Coincidently, Wheatley's top rusher at Buffalo is a guy named.... *drum roll* Fred Jackson.
Eastern's running backs were actually a bright spot on the team...when they weren't running completely predictable offenses.
+1. EMU could be a basketball school but for some reason the four dudes who run the school want a good football team. When UM was down 7 years ago in BBall, EMU could have put a lot into that program, recruited Detroit, Flint and sag and become a yearly tourney team ala Oakland U. Unlike Western and Central, Eastern is a commuter school, in a semi ghetto without a campus feel. They will never be a football school and it is useless to try. They could drop to d2 in fball and focus on being the best BBall school in the MAC, and actually succeed.
It does appear EMU's primary RB has had decent success the last two seasons:
2013: 142 att - 817 yds - 5.8 ypc - 4 TDs
2012: 140 att - 905 yds - 6.5 ypc - 6 TDs
Backup is averaging 4.7 ypc as well. Of course, it's more complex than that, but not a bad rough showing for Hart as a RB coach. Still going to be difficult for him to jump to another D1 position
The running backs have been solid. I don't think Hart needs to take a step back.
The starter has 817 yards on 5.8 yards/carry and 4 touchdowns. The top two backups have 537 yards on 4.5 yards/carry and 5 touchdowns.
EDIT: I guess I was too slow.
The legend of the Lloyd Carr coaching tree lives on.
Who wins in Ypsilanti?
On an interim basis anyway, the word is that another former Michigan staffer - Stan Parrish - will get a chance at attempting this nearly impossible feat.
Who happened to be Hoke's OC at Ball State.
/commence rumors of Parrish replacing Borges
Only if Hoke is still as hands off as he is now. Parrish got overruled in that 2000 collapse at Purdue when he still wanted to throw in the second half up 18 and LC wanted to stay on the ground. Not the only time there's been conflict.
Parrish was QB coach during the Griese, Henson, Brady years so that would be another bonus.
Any actual evidence of this? Wouldn't surprise me, and that finish was a disaster, but let's just say there are a lot of rumors floating around right now and I have to wonder if this is one of them.
One of the most frustrating UM performances I've seen. An absolutely dominant first half where I believe the offense had 4 possessions and 4 TD's of 70 yds or longer. 2nd half was a disaster.
I was at this game. The epitome of Lloyd. Playing not to lose!
11-46 overall record with a 7-30 conference record. Not good.
Good lord. Never knew it was that bad. While that job is tough for any coach to succeed at, I just don't think Ron is a head coach. I don't blame him for leaving Louisville to take that job, but sheesh, what a train wreck for a record.
Yeah. The worst part is that 2 years ago they went 6-6 and 4-4 in the conference...
Good for the best Eagles season in 17 years.
And 2 of the 6 wins were against FCS teams so they weren't bowl eligible.
2011 they were 6-6, the first non-losing season since 1995. From 1996-2008 (year before English was hired), EMU was 41-107 (0.277 win pct) and a high-water mark of 4-7. In fact, English is EMU's 7th head coach since 1993 and only one of two that had a non-losing season.
It's really tough to tell by his performance at EMU whether or not he is a good coach. The last successful coach there was Jim Harkema (83-92), and he had winning seasons in 4 of 10 seasons, and was actually fired before the end of his final season. So yeah - no exaggeration when people say it's a dead-end job.
When you're high mark for success is 4 of 10 winning seasons, you know the program is struggling. And there was a stretch before Harkema when EMU had the nation's longest losing streak at 27 games.
Circa 2004, Jim Harbaugh was lobbying hard for the EMU job before it went to Jeff Melnyk. There but for the grace of God
I was hoping he'd help Eastern turn the corner, but I don't know if that is a task even Nick Saban could accomplish. Maybe Cal will have an opening for a DC at the end of the year.
I think he recruited well. He brought some kids in from California IIRC. Just never translated on the football field.
Probably means Mike Hart will sion be out if the job. Sucks.
Let Fred Jackson retire and hire Mike Hart. He'd be the best RB coach you've ever seen. Like Fred Jackson but with Mike Hart's grit.
coach the OL?
That information is posted in the OP.