5 star recruit Emmanuel Mudiay is leaving SMU to play overseas per Garry Parrish. Michigan is scheduled to play SMU in December.
"Jim's a tough guy and you can see his personality is all over this football team," Fitzgerald said.
He's good at the shooty-hoops.
How soon can we get this guy out of here?
He was Larry Brown's top recruit. Chose them over Kentucky and will be a lottery pick in 2015. Huge loss for them.
Going the Brandon Jennings route? Good luck...
He should have asked Brandon Jennings about his Europoe-instead-of-college experience before making this move.
Are you implying it was a bad move for Jennings? He made 3.65 million in the one year he played in Italy and still was a lottery pick. Not exactly a terrible move..
Wait - is this true? I knew he played overseas, but I didn't know he made that kind of bank. That's more than almost all NBA rookies make. On the rookie pay scale, only the top 3 picks make that much, and this was like 5 years ago. Where did you get that number? If that's true, I'm shocked more players don't go that route.
EDIT: so I just looked this up. He made 1.65 million from the Italian team and 2 million from Under Armour to rep their line in Europe (a deal unlikely to be matched by future players). That said, he still got the pay equivalent of being a late lottery pick. I'm very surprised more top HS prospects don't take that deal instead of college. Good for Mudiay. Let a kid take that scholarship who wants to go to college.
Sorry, my post was a little misleading as that figure wasn't salary alone. Even at 1.65 million for 1 year, it's not exactly a bum deal.
For sure. I wasn't really correcting you (and your point still stands) just clarifying, as much for my own curiosity than anything else.
Wasn't going to academically qualify this year. Better to go overseas than taking a red shirt playing school.
You mean that guy...
Here's the CBS story - LINK
According to this, he will go pro overseas and forgo college altogether - but not for academic reasons, as someone mentioned above. Here's the quote from Mudiay himself:
"I was excited about going to SMU and playing college basketball for coach [Larry] Brown and his staff and preparing for the NBA, but I was tired of seeing my mom struggle. And after sitting down with coach Brown and my family, we decided that the best way for me to provide for my mom was to forgo college and pursue professional basketball opportunities."
Remembering this kid's footage, that's a blow to SMU indeed - he was a huge get for Larry Brown.
He's going to play one year of something-ball before going pro. He can either a) go to SMU, hope to make the sweet 16 and not make a cent (unless bagmen, boosters, etc) or b) play abroad and make some money for his family
I say go get paid young man
He may make a few hundred thousand playing overseas, but, color me old-fashioned, I think being coached by one of the greatest basketball minds ever would be far more valuable to him. A year with Larry Brown could net him millions more in the long-term and at least a few hundred thousand in the short term.
is this a sarcastic post? Subtle trolling? It has to be.
Forgot to tell you that I sold the rights to my YpsiTuckyBoy account to Mark Emmert for the day.
This is unlikely. Pro coaches overseas aren't exactly scrubs. And let's say he makes $1MM even in his one year overseas. In order for college to net him a few hundred thousand in the short term (let's say first 3 years in the NBA) then he would have to make $500k more per year after coming from college than coming from Europe. Unless Mudiay was going to be a top-3 pick (unlikely but possible) that would mean college would have to be worth about 5 spots on the draft board. I doubt that's likely. If I were him (meaning my family was poor now) I would take the first million in a heart beat and worry about the other millions later.
Mudiay is projected to be the #1 pick currently. So really it's whether you think him going to Europe for a year would drop him out of the #1 spot.
According to whom? I've seen him top 5, but never 1. Most feel that Okafor kid will go #1.
Not all sites, obviously, but I just googled "2015 NBA Mock Draft" and it seems pretty split between Okafor and Mudiay. Granted, it's normally difficult for a guard to go first since everyone wants giant and athletic forwards more than anything, so we'll see. Either way, he needs to find a team where he can play and not be some benchwarmer who's still trying to learn the game.
why do people hate on kids making a living? You would be an idiot if you were offered a million dollar job out of high school and would turn it down. he will be a better player than going to college would do for him because he will be playing against grown men and all he has to do is focus on basketball especially in a country where he won't speak the language, all he has to do is ball out.
I completely agree with the first half of your post. But I don't think there will be a noticeable difference in talent in Europe compared to high-level NCAA basketball. Sure, they will be older for the most part (though not necessarily by a lot). But the overall talent level is about the same as the NCAA. The worst guys in Europe will be a little better, but the best won't be as good. For example, if Michigan played a pro team in Italy, it would be a good game.
A language barrier would not help. Even if it means "all he has to do is ball out," he could have some trouble communicating with teammates and coaches which obviously is not favorable.
If finances were an issue, why didn't he just pick Kentucky?
The thread is over
Eh, I don't hate it, but those jokes are low hanging fruit at this point. Every topic about players and money has a "He should have gone to Alabama/Kentucky" joke in it.
but I thought the above was particularly well delivered
....or maybe I just have a very simple sense of humor
SI also states there were concerns over potential NCAA amateurism rules violations as well as questions about him qualifying academically. Either way, I wish Mudiay the best of luck. Kid has a lot of talent.
My bad. How dare I wish some kid good luck that has made some mistakes. I'll clean my act up. :)
he also escaped war-torn Congo before settling in the United States with his family, so maybe wish him good luck for that?
Wouldnt that be more of a congratulations?
Some are born to endless night.
It hurts to set you free...
Unlike Mudiay, the only talent you have is being an asshole on a message board
At what, exactly, did he fail? Unless you have evidence we don't have, all accounts show he was academically eligible. It sounds like this is simply a money issue, and as someone who has made career decisions for money, I don't see any problem with that.
1. Are you sure he wasn't going to qualify?
2. Even if he wasn't going to qualify, he survived being born in the Congo (read about that civil war if you ever want to doubt the fate of humanity) and is now capable of pulling his family out of poverty. That's good, right?
complain about a person getting paid for doing something they're good at in a country where Matt Millen can still make a living evaluating football teams, players and coaches. And even then, he has to leave our country to cash in.
this kid did or you would have had the same decisions to make. I really don't know if the kid fucked off in school, but judging by his background I think I'm on firm ground in stating his plan was to gain exposure at what he would be doing professionally and he's just getting an early start. Sounds like the reason we all went to college. Have no idea what your major was but if, say at the sophomore level, you had proven yourself to be extremely marketeable in this field and the headhunters were offering you big bucks to drop school and start your career earlier than most and as a bonus offered to pay off your student loans, a nice signing bonus and a six figure salary to start with. Inasmuch as they only offered you based on what you did in your chosen field of endeavor and didn't care that you were almost flunking all of your other classes, sounds to me like the decision would not be a real difficult one. College is as much about networking as it is giving total concentration to your major, so wish him well.
As to the poster who stated he could have learned a tremendous amount from Larry Brown, I can't even imagine this would be a point of contention in making such a decision. The kid will be taught.
is something no prized SEC recruit ever has to say.
And it's ironic that it's a player at SMU -- which, "back in the day," used to take care of its prized recruits, before they (allegedly) used to take care of hookers (allegedly).
Doing my math -- from this, I conclude that SMU is now clean. Phew, the NCAA can call off those dogs now, huh.
well that game just got easier.
I watched this kid play when he was in town. He picked up two quick fouls and sat the rest of the first half, but in the second half I couldn't believe his talent. He tried to do WAY too much, but his team was stuggling. You can't blame the kid for getting paid.
To be honest, I wish more 1-and-done guys did this. It would allow for more continuity in college basketball, where the top players aren't leaving as frequently, and it would allow for more scholarships to go to kids who will stick around all 4 years.
An argument against it is that it would diminish the quality of play, but with that point I disagree. This past season had one of the best freshman classes ever, and only two players (Parker and Wiggins) showed up on All-American first of second teams with no publication having more than one frosh on their third team (a few picked Aaron Gordon or Julius Randle). Other one-and-dones like Noah Vonleh, Zach LaVine and James Young were good players but were drafted more for their upside and weren't adding a ton to the college game (LaVine didn't even start).
Let these guys go overseas where they can make money and do endorsements all above the table in the year or two before they come back stateside to the NBA. And if it turns out they weren't NBA material, they can either take their millions and come back and pay for college or continue making decent money in Europe.
I think having some of your players with one foot in and one foot out of the college game hurts in the long run. The Kentucky fan says, "I love this game!" while the Kentucky player says, "I wouldn't be here if I didn't feel like I had to be." That's an undesirable situation.
It was Mudiay shunning Kentucky which possibly helped Calipari land Booker over Michigan.