Even though we already know the results, I thought some may be interested in checking out our future QB. By the way, Shane is rocking a UM hat in the opening scene, I would expect no less.
Elite 11 Finals on ESPN right now
Why do they put this on so late? Most of the interested people will already know the results and have moved on by now.
It looks almost like they are glossing over Shane. I'm starting to buy in to the Dilfer dislike.
Well, they're trying to promote their product, so of course they're going to mostly highlight the guys they thought were the "elite 11"
Even if you aired it shortly after it was over, you'd still have the same problem you highlighted. And I don't think a ton of people would watch a few hours of live coverage for five straight days or however long it is. The documentary style is probably the best option for this.
Didn't Shane win the accuracy award on day one ? Revisionist history ...
Max Browne really does have a funky throwing motion.
Seeing Dilfer put Shane under that "test," you have to think that he knew Shane was the best quarterback there. He wanted to put the most pressure and focus on him...even commended him for making the big throw under the spotlight on the last throw of the day.
Is it just me, or is Dilfer acting like a damn cheerleader? Just yelling and going crazy...
Seemed to focus on the lesser guys. Maybe he's just trying to get them press.
Well that was an awkward string of posts...
Dilfer is doing his best Joe Swanson yell immitation right now.
Dilfer either knew Shane was the best, or he/ESPN needed a scape goat for tv. He wins the jersey on the first day. Then is left out of the top 11, but a kid who couldnt even throw makes it. I know Ferguson is decent, but if you cant throw, how can the really judge you. A lot of QBs and Golfers have great mechanics while warming up, but it is where the ball goes that matters.
I thought they explained that pretty well. They put in multiple guys based on competitiveness and work ethic. Whether you agree with that or not is another issue.
They did explain it was based on several factors. However, how seriously should we take a quarterback competition that didn't weigh "throwing the football" that heavily? Sure seems stupid.
How seriously should we take any competition between High School QB's? Is Shane making the Elite 11 cut going to help him make a better throw against OSU? Sometimes this blog get's too wrappred up in recruiting. Threads discussing the performance/results of 7 on 7, a giant freak out because Shane wasn't declard Elite 11. None of that stuff matters once he steps foot on campus, yet people are treating it like a great dishonor to Michigan, like Fulmer snubbing us in the Coaches poll
It is on ESPNU again at 9:30 for those that missed it.
Well, he looked good on the one pass I saw him throw.
Shane won the accuracy on day two, passed Dilfers special test and wasn't even mentioned after the day two rankings. Shane was saying how he thinks he should be ranked up there when he was interviewed, so the TV broadcast seems to be painting the story that Shane has an entitlement attitude. And the fact that Dilfer made the special test for Shane confirms what Dilfer is thinking.
Based on that, this seems like Dilfers ways of teaching a lesson, and to be honest, being named to the elite 11 won't win you one game in college, but learning that lesson might light his fire and keep him hungry.
Also found it interesting that it was said woulard had the strongest arm, while Shane's arm strength wasn't even mentioned.
Shane's not top 11! Let's get that Greenlee guy instead.
I would watch this, but I don't want to get unreasonably pissed off.
I will sooner watch rythmic gymnastics than watch Trent Dilfer.
How about synchronized diving?
It's all about the synchonized swimming. Not diving.
I found myself watching synchronized diving quite a bit...that shit is actually really cool
I hear they make out in the pool
Look at the list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN_RISE_Elite_11
Yikes. Tons of shitty QBs and bust. Matt Stafford, Josh Freeman and Andrew Luck are the best of the bunch. The rest all suck.
Seriously? Like 40% of those guys played in the NFL. Most had pretty solid college careers. This is coming from a group of high school kids. Not everybody is Tom Brady...
Not really. Majority are busts. Very few succeeded in the NFL.
isn't the objective toward evaluting QBs. It's how successul they are in NCAA and NFL level. Dan Marino isn't a bust despite the fact that he never won a SB, but is probably the top 5 QB of all time for example.
From '99 to '05, I only counted 4(1 pending) who went on to have a successful career in the NFL. Not sure if you count Mark Sanchez yet. Jake Locker is one that is pending. That's a huge amount of bust percentage. There are QBs who are successful in the NCAA level like Vince Young, Tim Tebow but won't amount to anything as a QB.
If you are in Elite 11, you should be able to have a successful NCAA career which most haven't done it plus a successful NFL career which nearly none hasn't done it.
99 - 5/11 had productive careers (Cassel not so much in college but in the pros he has)
00 - 6/11 had productive college careers
01 - 6/11 had productive college careers (Matt Guttierez may have had if not for injury and being blocked by Henne. Made NFL roster at one point)
02 - 4/11
03 - 4/10 (one kid didn't go to college, played baseball after high school instead)
04 - 4/11
05 - 8/11
06 - 5/11
07 - 8/11
Alot of TBDs from 08 and on
Very few QBs have successful NFL careers. It's a tough position for a reason. Heck, if they did an Elite 11 at every position, you'd have to consider the rankings a failure because a majority of kids don't go on to the NFL because there are less than 2000 active players in the NFL at a given time. I think having a productive college career is a better criterion for evaluating these rankings. And they're not doing great, but they're not doing terrible. If having a successful NFL career is the only way to look at these rankings, then every rankings service is a failure.
These are all based on NCAA career. That's less than 40% like the poster claimed. Based on NFL career from '99 to '05, only 4 of them have success in the NFL level. That's 4 out 66 which is a terrible percentage.
ESPN Elite 11 does a terrible job of evaluating QBs. Simple as that.