Elite 11 Day 5 Open Thread
At least do it with style...
To answer your question, something like that ^
I don't get why people are so upset about the rankings put out by the coaches. I watched the ESPN coverage of the Elite 11 last season and the whole time it was Dilfer trying to mess with the kids heads to see how they reacted. I think this is what is going on here. We will see who is selected into the Elite 11 but I will be very surprised if Shane is not one of them.
247 guy said that Gunner Kiel was never selected in these top11 coaches list last year. It was widely known that he was a top pro-style QB.
I'm not too sure what these rankings are based on anyways.
Unless Shane is just terrible in the classroom i'm not sure why he isn't ranked... Maybe he scored Vince Young low on a wonderlic test for high school kids
at 4pm and arrives in Los Angeles at 7pm, how many hookers did Craig James allegedly kill while at SMU?
Depending on which method you use to solve this question, the answer is either 5 or five.
This just looks like a broken wrist waiting to happen. Scary.
Do we find out the final rankings today?
2. Shane Morris, Warren (Mich.) De La Salle: Morris has the strongest arm of the bunch by far and he's not afraid to use it. The ball comes out quickly and with a ton of zip, but he has also been showing more patience and touch and his long ball hasn't sailed on him as it has in the past. Morris still needs to see more of the field, but he is improving working across his body and he has been smart about checking down when needed. His physical upside is better than anyone else's at the event.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/highschool/07/22/rivals-elite-11-quarterbacks/index.html#ixzz21N6XsHB1
I had never heard of this Woulard guy... he must be really impressing for a 3-star dual threat guy to be leading the pack (according to Rivals based upon on the field performance).
FWIW, he is a 4 star on the 3 other services. Where you at Swoopes?
I think Shane's a great QB and fit for Michigan. I'll be happy for him if he wins some extra accolades for himself. I'll be even happier for him if he learns some useful skills from the competition. But I'm not going to really care that much if he doesn't win this or even if his high school team doesn't win every game next year.
That's the main reason I like hearing praise for Morris and his progression. He keeps getting better and keeps working on his flaws. Everyone has known of his arm strength, but he keeps adding more to his repetoire.
Guys, this is ESPN. They have emphasized the "E" at the expense of the "S" for decades, particularly in events like this.
Really Elite11? Pete Carroll? Is he talking about getting out of the pocket before you get sacked?
For those hyperventilating about a Trent Dilfer/WWL conspiracy; take a deep breath and relax.
Shane has the talent; but obviously, being a QB is more about having a gun for an arm otherwise Todd Marinovich, Jeff George, and Ryan Leaf would have been All-Pros, and Tom Brady would have been a typical 6th round draft pick.
Having a little bit of reinforcement that QB also includes film/classwork/etc is NOT a bad lesson for a recruit of Shane's caliber (for all intents and purposes, the #1 or #2 pro-style QB in the country this year) to learn.
It may bruise the ego a little, but who really gives a rat's ass if Shane "win's" the Trent Dilfer Elite 11 Memorial trophy, but never beats Michigan State, the Domers, or Ohio? Would we care if Shane doesn't win the Elite 11 but ends up going 4-0 v. the above three teams?
I know it's the slow season, but everyon stop getting their panties in a knot.
I think it's just the fact that everyone besides the E11 coaches has Shane in their top 5. it's just shocking and baffling
From this morning (don't think this is the final rankings). No Shane Morris.
7. Del Rio
it'll look good on TV, but right now Elite 11 is like watching a sitcom being filmed over 8 hours for 22 minutes of content. TV Production
Every article that I read and video I have seen has given Shane Morris a ton of props. Everyone that has reported on the Elite 11 has considered Shane as one of the top 3 QB's at the camp. What are the coaches seeing at this camp that observers are not seeing?
Must be classroom, attitude, listening to instructions and a while lot of ass kissing .i can't think of any other reason
Last year, consensus 5 star, top QB Gunner Kiel was the top or second performing QB to every service. If I remember correctly, he did not make the final 11. 247 suggested it had a lot to do with him not 'buying in' to Dilfer and what he was selling.
My sense is Morris is going to be so good at Michigan Borges will allow him to throw bubble screens.
I've determined that since Morris doesn't seem to like to check down then he will continue to not be on the "top" 11....so it goes with a gunslinger mentality.
Trent Dilfer played at Fresno State. Zack Greenlee has one offer...where do you think it is from?
I had that thought earlier along with this one: most of the coaches are from the West Coast. 7 of the 11 QBs in the rankings today are from the West Coast with most committed to Pac-12 schools (all 4 QBs from CA are in the rankings). The only West Coast QB not in the rankings is Cooper Bateman from UT, and he is committed to Alabama.
There are 6 QBs from Texas, and none of them are in today's top 11 (out of 24).
Which seems like the opposite opinion of all the services in attendance....oh well, the day Dilfer's opinion matters will be the first time.
Michigan commit Shane Morris 3/3 and a sack, 47 yd TD pass on the fly up the left hash, picture perfect pitch and catch
Pretty much most QBs have been able to complete their 2 min drill with a TD (except Tyrone Swoopes of course) but 3 for 3 is impressive with sack only blemish.
Probably gonna lose points for that...Coach Dilfer would have preferred a checkdown..
Not even listed by ESPN
30 throws? Geez talk a about a small sample size. Especially for 5 days.
Does he mean 30 each?
I see it as a win-win situation. He is obviously one of the most talented QB's in the country and works hard to improve himself every day. If he doesn't make the final, imagine how hard and determined he's gonna be to prove them wrong. Either way there's nobody else out there I'd rather have to lead touchdown drives in the near future, including kids from the 2012 and 2014 classes.
Someone posted this on 247, so I thought I might bring it up here for all the conspiracy theorists.
The #1 QB according to the coaches so far is Zach Greenlee, who only has one offer, from Fresno State. Where did Trent Dilfer play? Fresno State.
Also the only QB in the whole show that has not commited.
My personal Elite 11 after 5 days and 32 or so throws: 1. Morris 2. Olsen 3. Woulard 4. Browne 5. Goff 6. Ramsey 7. Bateman 8. Dobbs cont.
9. Hackenberg 10. Kincade 11. Zaire and no, don't expect big rankings changes coming off of a 30 throw shorts and Tshirt event
I can't believe I actually slightly care about this.
Omg are you watching the bachelorette finale to?!?!?
...but not really
what's taking so damn long???????
The comedy of all the cali kids getting in should be funny...and I fully expect Shane to not be in the final 11 since he doesn't check down enough.
Oh well, I know the scouting guys aren't always right, but with all of them basicly putting Shane in the top 2 that is all I need to know.
Christian Hackenberg (Penn State), Luke Del Rio (Oklahoma State), Max Browne (USC), Zack Greenlee (uncommitted), Asiantii Woulard (South Florida), Jared Goff (Cal), Shane Cockerille (Maryland), Malik Zaire (Notre Dame), Johnny Stanton (Nebraska), Joshua Dobbs (Arizona State) and Kevin Olsen (Miami) make the cut.
MVP: Asiantii Woulard
Shane Morris left out.
and in a complete shocker....Shane wasn't good enough for Dilfer.
surprise surprise...cali kids 4 for 4.
So Shane has the biggest arm and won the accuracy challenge thing and he still gets left out? You know I realize Dilfer probably holds a grudge because he played in the NFC Central for a while and got overshadowed by a certain QB with a huge arm, but wow what a friggin joke...
So let's see...............
- Most observers stated that Morris has the strongest arm of all the participants
- On day two Morris earned a gold jersey for most accurate passer of that day
- Most of the recruiting gurus in attendance had Morris in their top 2-4 overall for the five days
- Those same gurus reported good results for his red zone and two minute drills over the last two days, putting him at the head of most of the group's that he participated.
All of this from third party observers yet Dilfer and his group felt that his performance wasn't good enough to even break into the top 11?
I know that none of this is ever going to mean the difference between a win or a loss once the kid hits campus, but Morris seems like a camp junkie and is very competitive. I can imagine that not placing in the top 11 has got to hurt, especially since it appears that he performed very well in many facets of this camp.