Elite 11 Day 5 Open Thread

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Elite 11 Day 5 Open Thread

Last day of Elite 11 competition. Shane Morris still has not been able to break into the coaches' rankings despite glowing reviews from various recruiting analysts observing the on-field portion of the competition.

Final day of competition includes red zone and 2 minute drill work. Get it done Shane.

Reached the final day. Red Zone 7on7 & Pressure Cooker 2 minute drill.

Shane standing out in his Elite 11 Golden Gun Accuracy jersey:

UPDATE:

Third set of Elite 11 Coaches' rankings released this morning:

1. Greenlee
2. Browne
3. Goff
4. Hackenberg
5. Woulard
6. Stanton
7. Del Rio
8. Dobbs
9. Williams
10. Cockerville
11. Zaire

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July 22nd, 2012 at 12:10 PM | It's a... (Score:2 Normal)
pkatz
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conspiracy!

July 22nd, 2012 at 12:25 PM | Haterz (Score:2 Normal)
Hugh Jass
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gonna hate

If someone ever invented a low fat vitamin - filled vegetable that tasted like fudge covered Rice Krispies treats - I'd probably eat better

 

 

July 22nd, 2012 at 12:39 PM | if you're going to go there (Score:4 Normal)
LSA Aught One
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At least do it with style...

 

July 22nd, 2012 at 12:59 PM | To answer your question, (Score:1 Overrated)
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To answer your question, something like that ^

You know, Dude, I myself dabbled in pacifism once. Not in 'Nam of course.

July 22nd, 2012 at 12:28 PM | Don't read into it (Score:0 Overrated)
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:17 PM | Also... (Score:1)
ken725
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247 guy said that Gunner Kiel was never selected in these top11 coaches list last year. It was widely known that he was a top pro-style QB.



I'm not too sure what these rankings are based on anyways.

Greetings from Bolivia.

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July 22nd, 2012 at 12:32 PM | Hmmm (Score:1)
umfan323
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Unless Shane is just terrible in the classroom i'm not sure why he isn't ranked... Maybe he scored Vince Young low on a wonderlic test for high school kids

July 22nd, 2012 at 12:41 PM | If a train leaves Albuquerque (Score:5 Normal)
LSA Aught One
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at 4pm and arrives in Los Angeles at 7pm, how many hookers did Craig James allegedly kill while at SMU? 

 

Depending on which method you use to solve this question, the answer is either 5 or five.

July 22nd, 2012 at 12:36 PM | Incredible balance. j/k (Score:1 Normal)
drewz05
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Incredible balance.

j/k

July 22nd, 2012 at 12:49 PM | This just looks like a broken (Score:4 Normal)
denardogasm
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This just looks like a broken wrist waiting to happen.  Scary.

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July 22nd, 2012 at 12:37 PM | Do we find out the final (Score:2 Normal)
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Do we find out the final rankings today?

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.

- Vince Lombardi

July 22nd, 2012 at 1:01 PM | More Shane Morris praise (Score:1 Normal)
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2. Shane Morris, Warren (Mich.) De La Salle: Morris has the strongest arm of the bunch by far and he's not afraid to use it. The ball comes out quickly and with a ton of zip, but he has also been showing more patience and touch and his long ball hasn't sailed on him as it has in the past. Morris still needs to see more of the field, but he is improving working across his body and he has been smart about checking down when needed. His physical upside is better than anyone else's at the event.



Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/highschool/07/22/rivals-elite-11-quarterbacks/index.html#ixzz21N6XsHB1

 

July 22nd, 2012 at 1:19 PM | I had never heard of this (Score:2)
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I had never heard of this Woulard guy... he must be really impressing for a 3-star dual threat guy to be leading the pack (according to Rivals based upon on the field performance).

 

July 22nd, 2012 at 2:01 PM | FWIW, he is a 4 star on the 3 (Score:1)
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FWIW, he is a 4 star on the 3 other services.  Where you at Swoopes?

July 22nd, 2012 at 1:41 PM | Yawn (Score:1)
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I think Shane's a great QB and fit for Michigan. I'll be happy for him if he wins some extra accolades for himself. I'll be even happier for him if he learns some useful skills from the competition. But I'm not going to really care that much if he doesn't win this or even if his high school team doesn't win every game next year.

July 22nd, 2012 at 1:50 PM | At this point, it doesn't (Score:2 Normal)
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At this point, it doesn't really matter what order these guys finish in. They're all mega talented, and there's nothing Dilfer and the other coaches can do to change the fact that we're getting a great prospect in Morris .

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July 22nd, 2012 at 1:54 PM | Exactly (Score:2)
tigers17fan
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That's the main reason I like hearing praise for Morris and his progression. He keeps getting better and keeps working on his flaws. Everyone has known of his arm strength, but he keeps adding more to his repetoire.

July 22nd, 2012 at 2:00 PM | Guys this is ESPN. They have (Score:1 Normal)
Bill in Birmingham
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Guys, this is ESPN. They have emphasized the "E" at the expense of the "S" for decades, particularly in events like this.

July 22nd, 2012 at 2:18 PM | Shane throws for 2 TDs in red zone drill (Score:2 Informative)
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Shane Morris bounces back from 2 incompletions with 2 TDs. Showed good touch on the final throws after getting one knocked down

For comparison, only 4 players have thrown for multiple TDs so far: Del Rio (3), Jennings (3), Browne (2), & Zaire (2)

July 22nd, 2012 at 2:23 PM | Shane trolling Ohio commit JT Barrett (Score:5 Normal)
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Shane Morris grabs the mic to announce J.T. Barrett: "Now throwing, from the Ohio University..."

July 22nd, 2012 at 2:27 PM | nice (Score:1)
coldnjl
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nice

July 22nd, 2012 at 2:45 PM | update (Score:2)
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RT : "Final Group after 4 red zone throws 1. 2. Danny Etling 3. Zach Greenlee 4. JT Barrett"

 

Edit: and a picture with Morris

 

 

Pete Carroll talking to the finalists before the final two minute drill 

 

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July 22nd, 2012 at 2:50 PM | Really Elite11? Pete Carroll? (Score:5 Funny)
denardogasm
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Really Elite11? Pete Carroll?  Is he talking about getting out of the pocket before you get sacked?

"Michigan Defense" is dominating everything, in every aspect of life. That's a rough definition.

-Craig Roh 10/29/2011

July 22nd, 2012 at 3:00 PM | For those hyperventilating (Score:0 Overrated)
July 22nd, 2012 at 3:30 PM | I think it's just the fact (Score:1)
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I think it's just the fact that everyone besides the E11 coaches has Shane in their top 5. it's just shocking and baffling

July 22nd, 2012 at 3:28 PM | Third set of Elite 11 Coaches' rankings released (Score:1)
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From this morning (don't think this is the final rankings). No Shane Morris.

1. Greenlee

2. Browne

3. Goff

4. Hackenberg

5. Woulard

6. Stanton

7. Del Rio

8. Dobbs

9. Williams

10. Cockerville

11. Zaire

July 22nd, 2012 at 3:33 PM | Scout's Scott Kennedy on Elite 11 competition (Score:1)
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it'll look good on TV, but right now Elite 11 is like watching a sitcom being filmed over 8 hours for 22 minutes of content. TV Production

July 22nd, 2012 at 3:41 PM | Elite 11 Coaches What? (Score:1)
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Every article that I read and video I have seen has given Shane Morris a ton of props. Everyone that has reported on the Elite 11 has considered Shane as one of the top 3 QB's at the camp. What are the coaches seeing at this camp that observers are not seeing? 

 

"This is Michigan!"

July 22nd, 2012 at 4:03 PM | Must be classroom, attitude, (Score:1)
umfan323
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Must be classroom, attitude, listening to instructions and a while lot of ass kissing .i can't think of any other reason

July 22nd, 2012 at 4:13 PM | Last year, consensus 5 star, (Score:3 Normal)
FreddieMercuryHayes
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Last year, consensus 5 star, top QB Gunner Kiel was the top or second performing QB to every service. If I remember correctly, he did not make the final 11. 247 suggested it had a lot to do with him not 'buying in' to Dilfer and what he was selling.

July 22nd, 2012 at 3:43 PM | My sense is Morris is going (Score:4 Normal)
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My sense is Morris is going to be so good at Michigan Borges will allow him to throw bubble screens.

Midwestern born and raised ... now living in the heat of the Arizona desert

July 22nd, 2012 at 3:45 PM | In keeping with the haters gonna hate theme. (Score:-1 Overrated)
July 22nd, 2012 at 3:59 PM | I've determined that since (Score:2 Normal)
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I've determined that since Morris doesn't seem to like to check down then he will continue to not be on the "top" 11....so it goes with a gunslinger mentality.

July 22nd, 2012 at 5:16 PM | Shane Morris close to breaking into the rankings (Score:2)
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Sounds like a lot will rest on how he does in the final 2 min. drill.

RT: “: Where is Shane morris?” pushing towards 11, has learned a lot this week and we'll see how finals go

July 22nd, 2012 at 5:27 PM | Trent Dilfer played at Fresno (Score:1)
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Trent Dilfer played at Fresno State. Zack Greenlee has one offer...where do you think it is from?

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.

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July 22nd, 2012 at 5:48 PM | Conspiracy theories abound (Score:3 Normal)
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I had that thought earlier along with this one: most of the coaches are from the West Coast. 7 of the 11 QBs in the rankings today are from the West Coast with most committed to Pac-12 schools (all 4 QBs from CA are in the rankings). The only West Coast QB not in the rankings is Cooper Bateman from UT, and he is committed to Alabama.

There are 6 QBs from Texas, and none of them are in today's top 11 (out of 24).

July 22nd, 2012 at 6:15 PM | ESPN reporter Mitch Sherman on why Shane not ranked (Score:2)
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Not consistent enough in opinion of coaches. Lots of good competition. RT can you tell me why Shane is not on here?

July 22nd, 2012 at 6:27 PM | Which seems like the opposite (Score:1)
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Which seems like the opposite opinion of all the services in attendance....oh well, the day Dilfer's opinion matters will be the first time.

July 22nd, 2012 at 6:42 PM | Shane goes 3/3 for a TD in 2 min drill (Score:2)
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Shane Morris goes deep for a 46 yard TD

Michigan commit Shane Morris 3/3 and a sack, 47 yd TD pass on the fly up the left hash, picture perfect pitch and catch

Pretty much most QBs have been able to complete their 2 min drill with a TD (except Tyrone Swoopes of course) but 3 for 3 is impressive with sack only blemish.

July 22nd, 2012 at 6:42 PM | Probably gonna lose points (Score:3 Normal)
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Probably gonna lose points for that...Coach Dilfer would have preferred a checkdown..

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.

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July 22nd, 2012 at 6:48 PM | Scout has Shane Morris as one of top 2 QBs from Elite 11 (Score:2)
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I'll go ahead and kill the suspense, my top 2 guys from 30 or so throws this week have been Shane Morris and Kevin Olsen

July 22nd, 2012 at 7:16 PM | 2 guys (Score:1)
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Not even listed by ESPN

July 22nd, 2012 at 7:27 PM | 30 throws? Geez talk a about (Score:2)
FreddieMercuryHayes
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30 throws? Geez talk a about a small sample size. Especially for 5 days.

July 22nd, 2012 at 8:14 PM | 30 each (Score:2)
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Does he mean 30 each?

July 22nd, 2012 at 7:36 PM | I see it as a win-win (Score:2 Informative)
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I see it as a win-win situation. He is obviously one of the most talented QB's in the country and works hard to improve himself every day. If he doesn't make the final, imagine how hard and determined he's gonna be to prove them wrong. Either way there's nobody else out there I'd rather have to lead touchdown drives in the near future, including kids from the 2012 and 2014 classes.

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July 22nd, 2012 at 7:47 PM | Someone posted (Score:3 Normal)
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Someone posted this on 247, so I thought I might bring it up here for all the conspiracy theorists.

The #1 QB according to the coaches so far is Zach Greenlee, who only has one offer, from Fresno State. Where did Trent Dilfer play? Fresno State.

Practice makes perfect. Unless you're the Buckeyes. Then you have to cheat.

July 22nd, 2012 at 8:55 PM | Also the only QB in the whole (Score:3 Interesting)
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Also the only QB in the whole show that has not commited.  

July 22nd, 2012 at 7:54 PM | Kennedy (Score:1)
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My personal Elite 11 after 5 days and 32 or so throws: 1. Morris 2. Olsen 3. Woulard 4. Browne 5. Goff 6. Ramsey 7. Bateman 8. Dobbs cont.

9. Hackenberg 10. Kincade 11. Zaire and no, don't expect big rankings changes coming off of a 30 throw shorts and Tshirt event

Practice makes perfect. Unless you're the Buckeyes. Then you have to cheat.

July 22nd, 2012 at 9:01 PM | Elite 11 has been finalized. (Score:2)
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The final 11 is set. .

Well Dilfer, we're waiting...

July 22nd, 2012 at 9:02 PM | I can't believe I actually (Score:5 Funny)
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I can't believe I actually slightly care about this.

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