Elite 11 - Day 3

Submitted by Leaders And Best on

The Elite 11 Coaches released their initial rankings through 3 days of competition this evening, and it's kind of surprising considering the reports that were coming from the recruiting websites.

From Brian Stumpf twitter:

1. Johnny Stanton #Cornhuskers

2. Zack Greenlee #uncommitted

3. Malik Zaire #Irish

4. Jared Goff #Cal

5. DeVante Kincade #OleMiss

6. Davis Webb #TexasTech

7. Max Browne #FightOn #USC

8. Luke Del Rio #OkState

9. Christian Hackenberg #PennState

10. Riley Ferguson #Vols

11. Shane Cockerille. #Maryland

No Shane Morris, Brice Ramsey, Cooper Bateman, Kevin Olsen, Danny Etling, or JT Barrett. Competition continues this evening.

GrindToEat

July 20th, 2012 at 7:33 PM ^

Goff is the star quarterback at our rival high school. He's a real pretty boy punk, but damnit he's a natural athlete. Certainly don't think he's that good though. FWIW, his girlfriend sleeps around.

morepete

July 20th, 2012 at 7:49 PM ^

This is just a mind game. They also didn't let Shane throw for most of the session on Day 2 just to create a one shot at success kind of atmosphere when he did throw. And if he doesn't make the top 11 overall, Shane will just have to prove the doubters wrong when he becomes the starter.

fishdaddy

July 20th, 2012 at 7:58 PM ^

Maybe it will create more buzz around the event, more spark in the supposed top qb's.  But jesus can anyone call a spade a spade?  That would be like voters unraking Alabama because they want to lite a fire under their asses.  I guess thats just not how I roll.

Leaders And Best

July 20th, 2012 at 7:59 PM ^


List will be updated daily and last year, the names from day 1 to the final list were dramatically different

More on rankings, chalk talk count a ton & players are judged not just on completing the pass but making the right read during film review

Also found this funny from counselor Matt Barkley's turn at 7-on-7 today:

Elite 11 perspective, Matt Barkley: 2 check downs, 2 coverage sacks, 2 INT's. This stuff is fun, but it's not the ultimate evaluation tool

BoFan

July 20th, 2012 at 8:24 PM ^

I guess we like Ferrell now. BTW, Matt Barkley went but wasn't picked on the Elite11. Devin Gardner went and was selected in '09.

michfan6060

July 20th, 2012 at 8:36 PM ^

I had a bad feeling when Ferell said Shane was number 1...that guy has a warped sense of reality.

RoZ06

July 20th, 2012 at 8:49 PM ^

I have a fair idea of how this'll go over, but here it is anyway: what about offering this Greenlee kid? No one seems to be biting, but he's impressed at several of these QB camps now among the best in the nation. I can't see Shane getting upset over a really under the radar kid being brought as a backup-type recruit. Plus, we could definitely use another scholarship QB. Thoughts?

a2_electricboogaloo

July 20th, 2012 at 10:50 PM ^

I might be going full conspiracy mode, but they could have left those guys off as a motivating factor. To put a little pressure on the guys and see how they handle criticism. /takes off tin foil hat

htm11

July 20th, 2012 at 11:02 PM ^

Just read that Shane had 7 completions (out of 8 throws) with 3 deep TDs in 7v7 tonight. That combined with winning the accuracy competition yesterday im not sure how they coming up with these rankings. Oh well, only day 3

MichiganMan2424

July 20th, 2012 at 11:07 PM ^

Group 3 done, 1. Shane Morris 2. JT Barrett 3. Zach Greenlee 4. Danny Etling , Shane best so far today at Elite 11 7v7

Group 1 finished, struggled with the wind, but 1. Max Browne 2. Jared Goff 3. Zach Allen 4. Shane Cockerill not a lot of separation 1-4

2nd group done - 1. Cooper Bateman 2. Asiantii Woulard 3. Malik Zaire 4. Davis Webb 5. Riley Ferguson Coop and Woulard clear top 2

Shane Morris just threaded a pass between two defenders for a TD. Looks more relaxed today.

Shane Morris fires a strike. The commit is bouncing back well in 7-on-7 today.

Two players who surprisingly missed the cut were Kevin Olsen and Shane Morris but again, a lot goes on behind the scenes that we don't see

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StraightDave

July 20th, 2012 at 11:15 PM ^

Yesterday the experts were all over this kids nuts and today he is "bouncing back."  Is this one of those every kid is a winner camps?

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Elmer

July 20th, 2012 at 11:22 PM ^

Behind the scenes?  Did they have a pie eating contest or swimsuit competition?  Completing a bunch of passes and scoring TD's should be enough to make the top group.

TheJoker

July 21st, 2012 at 2:32 AM ^

As much as these camps mean to our bragging rights, I really don't care about how well shane does. Sure a QB can make or break your team. But with the talent that Hoke and Co. are bringing in around Shane should ease any concerns we may have. 

IPFW_Wolverines

July 21st, 2012 at 2:36 AM ^

I seem to remember at one of these elite 11's I watched on ESPN, they purposely downgraded the "top talent" at the camp to see how they would respond. No idea if that is what is going on or not but wouldn't surprise me. Morris border's on over-confident (which most good QB's do) so taking the kid down a peg and seeing if he responds wouldn't be a bad thing.

WichitanWolverine

July 21st, 2012 at 7:11 AM ^

I read 3 (baseless) rumors on another board as to why Shane wasn't included. Take them FWTW:
Shane bombed the classroom portion.
The drama at this event is staged. They essentially scramble their top player lists every day to turn it into a soap opera. It was done the same way in past years.
Shane got into a little bit of trouble at the camp and is being taught a lesson.

MaizeNBlueAboveALL

July 21st, 2012 at 9:56 AM ^

If I wanted advice on mechanics, ball placement and accracy, Trent Dilfer would not be my first option. He is a smart guy and for the most part knows how to win but he was never spectacular and will never be in the HOF. The only reason he got that Superbowl ring is because he had an OUTSTANDING defense. Ray Lewis was the MVP that game. While I am not knocking him saying he is clueless I just dont think he iis the best evaluater. IMO. Last year when I watched the Elite 11 & the year of the QB, he seemed quite bias. I am not just looking through Maize glasses I am just giving my opinion. Film study is not where your on field performance, these kids will not even learn in depth film study until the arrive on a college campus im sure. Either way we all know that Morris is the best fit for us no matter what Dilfer thinks. Max Browne is a good talent but IMO him and Shane are tied at the top.

TheGeneral

July 21st, 2012 at 10:31 AM ^

Why do people keep mentioning how talented or untalented Dilfer happens to be when that couldn't possibly be more irrelevant? High school QBs definitely study film, Dilfer has a great understanding of film study. Is he a great talent evaluator, I don't know. It's also irrelevant unless how he is ranked is important to you. Last time he didn't do well at a camp he went to work with new focus. There are positives and negatives to any result. If Shane is going to quit working hard because he doesn't do well at this camp he,probably won't be a good college quarterback. If he is going to take bad advice at this camp he probably won't be a good college quarterback. If he soaks up every bit of information and decides for himself what is useful to him and continues to learn he will probably be good. In the end Shanes success or lack there of come down to,Shane, his team and his coaches