I think he was just scared of the gauntlet...
Mount St. Mary's hired a private equity CEO to be their president. You'll never guess what happened next.
I think he was just scared of the gauntlet...
...or the scaffolding.
Another five-star bites the dust.
Now where does he land? UNC?
Received his Bama check, for what it's worth.
Don't be that guy.
Okay, you are probably right. So where is the hard evidence? Where is the indisputable proof? We have one, maybe two pictures of kids holding lots of money that came from... who? Saban? Saban's assistant coach? Steve from Accounting? A close family member? A deceased relative? A rich sibling?
You show me the hard evidence where the money is coming from and how we can tie it to Alabama or Nick Saban and then we can write a tell all article and sell it to Yahoo! Sports.
I'd say give it some time. Alabama has a not-insignificant history of NCAA violations. Saban is a really good coach, but the SEC has a reputation of its member institutions that is only protected because the NCAA simply does not have the ability/desire to look in much deeper.
It is hard to get hard evidence. From the players' perspective, the fact that the NCAA and its member institutions and conferences and TV partners make millions off of them while they can lose playing time for free cream cheese, well, they all know it's bullshit. Most don't take big extras but know someone who has. What they won't do is rat out each other. There is a lot of dirt spread around so that nobody wins by exposing this or that guy, and the NCAA is completely feckless.
So don't expect hard evidence. Nobody goes on the record unless they have to or they're so scummy they'll do anything to save themselves. But if you get them drunk they all have the same stories and they come from the same sources. Proof? No. But let me assure you it's true enough in practice that the joke--even if this kid never asked for or received anything--that the joke is appropriate.
I agree and have made similar comments like this before. Unless someone leaves a paper trail or a player or former player feels he was wronged, it is borderline impossible to prove that an institution was paying a player.
If you haven't accepted that SEC schools are playing by different rules, I have some ocean front property in Wyoming that I'd like to sell to you.
Depends on a number of factors: height of the scaffolding, windspeed and the amount of gear he lugged up the tower are just a few things that affect his landing spot.
I hate myself.
Before the inevitable questions come forth, do not expect
#Michigan to pursue recent ND decommit Elijah Hood.
Per Steve Lorenz on Twitter
I had thought UNC was quite high on his list as well as close. It will be interesting to see where he ends up now. I remember he originally was talking about trying to stay relatively close to home.
I heard it was ILLINOIS!!
Didn't he play Frodo?
no, Brian Kelly
That was made to be a big thing for him before suddenly back-tracking and committing to ND. Gotta think he stays close to home now.
I think Mom won...sounded like he was open to being further from home in past interviews.
He's going to Bama. He is really sorry for flushing those letters down the turlet.
Man, ND gets a lot of decommitments.
Do they pressure kids too much to commit, even when they are not sure? Do other coaches undermine the commitments in some way? Are parents pushing the kids to commit to ND early? Some decommits are to be expected, but yeah, as you say, ND sure seems to get a ton of them--and they tend to be pretty high profile guys, too.
"The question is why?"
Someone has never been to South Bend...
Seriously, it's brutal.
Was there for the 98 game - vowed to never go back.
I was there for a wedding and it was even on the same night as the HoF inductee ceremony (I guess it's a big deal) and it was still so boring I could puke. I can't imagine living there.
The campus is actually very nice though, but outside of that South Bend is a boring goblin-hole. Just an awful town.
Sounds about right
But the "suburbs" have really been improving in the past 4 years. Granger has seen a lot of development and is actually pretty nice now. If you're young, you're not going to like it but as I'm getting older, I'm realizing that there are worse places than Granger to settle down. However, as a college student, I'd much rather be elsewhere than in Granger/South Bend.
I used ot be on the road doing service work and one of the places I had to hit was SB. It's not designed well period. Its one of those places that you can see where you have to go, but you can't actually get there.
I remember my first trip to South Bend for the 1994 game. Remy Hamilton saw to it that the ride home was pretty pleasant, but I remember pre-game; wandering around, looking for a place to grab a bite to eat or grab a beer only to find nothing. After a couple of hours of aimless wandering, my comrades and I came to the collective observation of, "why would ANYBODY want to go to school here?"
Maybe they just get to know Brian Kelly better? :-)
ND doesn't strike me as a high-pressure pitch to commit so it's likely something else.
1. ND has no recruiting homebase, and the expansion of the Big Ten has squeezed them out of the Midwest. I think this is one area where their national schedule hurts them. Prospects from your home territory are much more likely to stick to their commitments, and it is now much harder for ND to pull recruits from Ohio, Michigan, and Pennsylvania because they are not in the Big Ten and get less exposure in the Midwest (especially now with cable and the BTN). After Penn State joined the Big Ten, PA recruiting became much more friendly to the Big Ten and further isolated ND. Even in Chicago, most top recruits do not lean ND anymore as it has become more a Big Ten city than an ND city. With the addition of Rutgers and Maryland, this could cause even more harm to ND as Big Ten powers will get more exposure in those areas. You can already see it with the way Michigan and Ohio State are recruiting New Jersey, Maryland, and Virginia. Without a homebase, recruiting is difficult.
2. It has become harder and harder to pull recruits from California, Florida, and Texas especially to a place like South Bend, IN that is a 2 hour drive from a major airport. The rise of the SEC and the renaissance of USC and Texas/Texas A&M in the last 10 years has also made it hard as well.
If ND is not a superpower on the field, they will be forced to adapt the way Nebraska is having to after leaving the Big 12. Nebraska can no longer recruit Texas and Oklahoma as effectively because they don't have the same exposure there anymore.
I read this and agree with almost everything in it. Is it that much more impressive how well Kelly is recruiting the last couple of years or is likely the high-water mark and it will get increasingly more difficult for Notre Dame to get such highly ranked recruiting classes?
ND's "home base" is the Catholic school pipeline, which reliably produces ample top-notch talent year-in and year-out. On top of that, ND is a national brand and has enjoyed recent success. I don't see any reason to believe they won't continue to recruit at a very high level--even if South Bend is a dump.
If by "recent success" you mean 4 embarrassing losses in BCS bowl games then I agree.
In this day and age, if they're going to primarily depend on Catholic school kids, they're in trouble.
It wears off if they don't administer the right dosage. Also, if the kid stops eating Lucky Charms, then a decommit is inevitable.
Maybe it has something to do with the way Kelly runs his program?
The fact that ND built a statue of Kelly and wrote "2013 BCS National Champions" on it and planned to unveil it on Jan. 7?
The fact that ND sold copies of the 2012 season on DVD and also sold reserved copies of the BCS national championship to be sent out immediately following ND's victory?
The question is why, indeed.
Our decommittment list is the best recruiting class ever.
This made my afternoon. Luckily for us, I have to agree!
Don't forget the kids who actually enroll and then quit.
Almost scary thinking about ND if no one decomitted or left the program.
will be champions.
Decommit like a champion today
Gotta admit, it's pretty admirable the way you came on here even when we're ripping your program this fiercely.
Some things never get old.
I wonder what drives the insane amount of decommitments / flameouts of ND's recruiting classes of late vs Michigan which has had like 2...or 3 (Pharaoh, Conley...) decommitments under Hoke.
/insert picture of purple Brian Kelly
but in all seriousness, they've had a heck of a time actually getting their highly ranked classes onto the field
Anthony Standifer is the only other one I can remember from the Hoke years. Although he was more for academic reasons (allegedly).
Prospects from your home state/region are much more likely to stick to their commitment than one more than 500 miles away. ND has no home area, and the Big Ten has slowly squeezed them out of areas they were once strong in. In this day and age with almost every college football game televised, it is no longer that special to have your own NBC contract. Look at ND's recruiting over the last 10 years and see how few Midwest prospects they have. That tells the story right there.
24/7 doesn't let people change their predictions once a recruit is committed. Lorenz was one of many with a UNC prediction, which he couldn't change after Hood committed to ND.
Lorenz, however, was happy to bring attention to his brilliant foresight with a recent Twitter posting.
No matter what their process is, it looks like Lorenz will be right in the end.
Cut the recruiting guys some slack. There's a lot of competition, so tooting their own horn once in a while is understandable.
Everybody changed their Wangler prediction when he was still committed to PSU
I knew setting up their gauntlet apparatus backwards would hurt their RB recruiting.
I wish I could do more than just say, bravo. But...bravo...none the less.
"You guys have got to be freaking kidding me!"
I don't see how Hood couldn't have seen that.
but wasn't he trying to lure other recruits to ND ala the recruits coming to U-M? If so, what happened to all of that, I always get leery of kids doing this, it makes me wonder about their decision making and if it's the type of kids we want.
I know David Dawson did this too and re-committed, I'm just saying it's a questionable thing to do, it affects so many people:
-the coaching and who they continue to pursue or not.
-the other recruits whom might not get a chance to commit now because of having no more room for another player at said position.
-Screwing up the coaching staffs credibility with other recruits whom they were recruiting but stopped after another commitment and then having to try and recruit the spurned recruit again.
Recruiting is a bitch!
I don't think any of those are real concerns. The coaches make the final call, so if one of our recruits is pitching a guy we don't have room for, then that kid just won't be able to commit. I just don't see the harm there. And I just don't get your third point and how that has anything to do with a recruit recruiting another prospect.
This is like if I try to convince my friend to come work at my company. I don't control whether he gets hired, I'm just convincing him to interview or to take the job if it's offered to him.
I think by "doing this" he meant decommitting. (I also had your interpretation at first, but his post only makes sense if you read it as meaning decommitting.)
that is what I meant, sorry for the confusion.
OK, I see now. I thought since you mentioned him luring kids to ND in your opening sentence, that that was your thesis, when really it had nothing to do with you post.
But yeah, decommitting throws things for a loop, but I think everyone understands that it's all part of it.
coaches in the NFL next year, he won't have to worry about this. He will have them under contract and can abuse the athletes at will.
I was discerning priesthood back in the mid 90's, and I went to Notre Dame for the weekend. Anyway, I loved it, and I was so intent on going to Notre Dame while I was there for the two week period. I then came home, the feeling went away, and I never even visited the campus again.
Cool story, Father.
I need them.
but it passes quickly once I change the channel.
Religion is creepy and South Bend is a sham?
But instead you became a murdering dark wizard? The grass is not always greener.
Bitches love Dark Lords.
Forgive me Father, for I have sinned.
So what word did you mean in place of "discerning"? "Considering"?
but I figured maybe "discerning" had some special use applied to those considering the priesthood.... i.e. "passion" when dealing with Jesus.
You are correct - in the Catholic Church, we talk about "discerning" a vocation to the priesthood (or about becoming a monk or a nun). The idea is that you are attempting to discern whether or not God is calling you to that path, as opposed to considering one profession or another.
(Posted solely to explain word usage, not to start a religious discussion/debate.)
Was this before or after Hogwarts?
So Voldemort almost became a priest? Wow... Think how things would have been different.
Touchdown Jesus is a horcrux confirmed
I am not a Brian Kelly fan, so I don't feel bad for ND. I wouldn't no matter who was coaching them.
Kelly will more than likely end up in the NFL, I cannot see him at ND for an extended period of time.
I suspect Kelly's chances of being in the NFL also depend on Chip Kelly. If he does very poorly, even if it is a roster problem, you could see the tide turn against college coaches for a couple years.
Interestingly, the Crystball Ball over at 247Sports, which in Hood's case has not been updated fuilly since late March (it is being changed as we speak), now has him pegged for North Carolina - granted, many of these were literally just updated, although a fair number were NC predictions from March and early April. Hood also had offers from Clemson, Duke, East Carolina, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami (YTM), NC State, Ohio State, Ole Miss, SOuth Carolina, Stanford, USC, Vanderbilt, Virginia, Virginia Tech and Wake Forest.
I used to live in that neck of the woods ... back in 1984 to 1989.
That UNC-Duke-NC State triangle is actually a very nice part of the country.
UNC is a very beautiful campus, and Chapel Hill is a lot like Ann Arbor.
That said ...
Playing football at UNC is like going into federal witness protection. Down there fall is just a waiting period until basketball starts. Basketball rules, football is a distant second.
My experience was people from North Carolina are very proud of their state and their heritage and they like to stay close to home. No judgment, just an observation.
So if UNC, then it makes some sense. Certainly more than, say, playing for Duke or Wake Forest.
The only person I know that cares about Carolina football has... absolutely no connection to the university whatsoever. The only game I watched last year was Carolina - Duke, and I rooted for Duke because the thought of Duke going to a bowl is hilarious and Carolina cheats anyway.
Fall Saturdays do bring lots of strange old people to campus but no one under forty seems to give a damn.
Not sure why any parent would want their son in South Bend after what has transpired under Kelly. He really seems like he wants to bolt for the NFL. Should be interesting to see if he stays after this year. I would love to see Kelly as the Jets coach. The New York media would have a field day with him.
all we need is more crappy and uninteresting news about the Jets, ugh!!!
haha...I hate ND. I'm sure Kelly is having a fit.
The folks at OFD are crying their eyes out.
What was that, OFD? "Five-star RB Elijah Hood is Irish!"?
Wise man. (Just because I hate Notre Dame)
Peppers getting some love...
This was already part of Brian's Tuesday Recruitin'.
high school program, it is funny how his recruitment and decommitment is getting so much attention. Because here, this kid isn't regarded as a great running back. In fact, he is more likely to wind up playing linebacker, because while powerful, he is not fast. The school he attends plays some major high schools but not the higest level statewide competition. For example, Butler High School where Michigan's Channing Stribling, was a part of a two-time state championship team, that has sent a number of players to major D1 schools, has gotten more ink than Hood. I'm certain that will now change.
Hood is a good kid from a nice family. The school he attends is a landlocked private school off a major thoroughfare. I never thought his commitment to ND was that strong, more base on connection to the idea of attending that storied institution. I think Kelly came to visit him after speaking at the annual Bronko Nagurski Touchdown Club dinner in Charlotte last December. The Charlotte Observer ran a major profile on him several months ago.
You must be confusing him with another Elijah Hood.
"Elijah Hood turned some heads with his performance in the SPARQ competition placing 5th overall. Weighing in officially at 221 lbs, Hood ran an impressive 4.48 electronically timed 40 yard dash."
Well, lots of people disagree with you. He might not be the fastest running back in the world, but he's plenty fast. As someone else posted, he's recorded good 40 times. And on top of that, he shows good speed on his highlights. He's also a 5-star or high 4-star to all of the recruiting sites, IIRC.
And while you insist that he's more likely to be a linebacker, I'd say it's pretty rare to find a high Division I guy playing linebacker at 5'11". I know it happens sometimes, but not very often.
Good. One less weapon for them to use against us.
Might want to read this, even more insight on the decommittment
I wonder what happened on that July Visit , HMMMM
Not trying to go OT but what happened to Shaun Crawfords 4 pm announcement?
Friday I believe
It's Friday, August 23rd. And I thought it was at noon, but I might be wrong about the time.
Always good to see a kid get smart before he makes a mistake. Don't feel bad for ND fans for 1 second.