I like that. Trying to conjure some applications.
don't we all
I like that. Trying to conjure some applications.
well played, sir. I didn't catch that lol. You earned an imaginery +1 cuz I don't have enough points
Troglodyte is a big word for those homo erectus.
Eleven Warriors is hands down the most literate and high-quality Ohio State blog on the internet. Which.... yeah, I am in fact damning with faint praise. It's a nice enough blog, but it's just not mgoblog, to the point where intriguing reads like the cited Hoke article are more the exception than the norm. It's kinda like... anyone familiar with this deli from Columbus?
If you're not, it's a nice enough joint with perfectly acceptably good sandwiches but it's clearly aping the Zingerman's template and there are precisely zero foodies in all of foodie-dom that speak of Katzinger's in the same breath as Zingerman's.
(please, no Zingerman's-vs-Maize and Blue deli debates here)
I mean, this piece from 11W was just embarassing. http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2012/04/michigan-men-speak It was basically riffing on our sparsely attended Spring game and took potshots at Hoke and Denard. That's fine, they're not supposed to like us. And to be honest we've offered up ample fodder over the years - Toledo, The Horror, GERG, key plays, etc. But the problem was that the article just wasn't funny. 11w has done at least some quality humor writing - like their imitation of Bleacher Report for April Fool's - but they're getting outclassed by Michigan blogs like MGo and the M-Zone when it comes to making fun of our football team and their no. 1 rival. Sad showing, Ohio.
Ramzy is still almost always worth reading though. He has his rants that are close to his heart just like Brian's, and so sometimes they get annoying, but for the most part he at least adds a credible and enjoyable OSU voice to the dialogue. I agree that the other post from 11W was incredibly dumb, and the guy admitted in the comments that he had written it on no sleep the night before. That's not exactly representative of Ramzy's work or the blog as a whole though. The thing I find annoying though is the large gap between the writers and the commentors. The writing can be top notch and the comments will still quickly spiral into "hurr durr blah" territory, so usually if I want to get their POV I read the articles and get out. I respect what they're doing though, I wouldn't be surprised if MGoBlog provided the framework for a lot of what they do, it's just Brian's voice is just nearly impossible to replicate of course.
All Ohio boards are ridiculous to me. All you get is a bunch of lame fat jokes about Hoke wish is very childish. Then they discredit everything we do, like how they think their recruiting class as it stands right now is better than ours. That's why even though I won't do it, I like when Michigan fans post on their boards. It drives the bucknuts crazy.
Called Charlie Weis fat? We have tools too...
Making fun of people's weight is not funny.
My favorite IPA and a great reason to live in California.
Also kind of fun to read their comments to yesterday's verbal commit from 2013 recruit Tracy Sprinkle... consensus 3-star/unrated DL.
"I didn't think he had a commitable offer, but I guess he did."
"This is kind of a bummer."
Go read the "Hello: Drake Johnson" comment board.
as do all teams, but geez, it's not even a debate who's fanbase is generally classier--even among reasonable OSU fans. To hear some dude actually call our fans "troglodite," mispelling and all, is surreal.
...when I read "troglodite" and imagine the following scene unfolding...
An OSU fan sitting at his/her computer reading blogs about their school when they see something that confuses them. After running to the closet to get the dictionary, thumbing through the pages, and finding the definition of the word, they immediately bust up laughing because they think it is so much fun to make fun of "that school up north."
Come on, no one can seriously believe that the OSU readers of that blog actually knew what the heck that dude was talking about...
I've been over to 11 Warriors before and it's pretty good in terms of content. Think, though, about the abuse one of us would take for a similar anti osu rant on these pages. I'm not going to check, but I doubt if many called out our friend for being the retardedest.
I'm pretty sure I couldn't make something like that mess up. I'd enjoy a face to face with him so he could explain the varying "levels" upon which the "ohio" reference is "retarded".
Wish I was back at AACC now. Actually.... sitting outside at Blimpy's with a triple on pump with cheddar, pickles, raw onions, jalepenos and brown mustard with a basket of fried mushrooms.
Their denial betrays their real "worries".
Good article by Ramzy. Even though I always want Michigan to beat Ohio, it is better when the conflict is more even, and not lopsided. As much as I enjoyed Michigan beating Cooper, it meant more when Bo beat Woody.
As for the comments section, well, it always is going to a mixed bag, isn't it? Of course there are some stupid comments and stupid insults. But the reality is that you will find them here too. In fact, my only complaint about mgoblog is when the level of discourse starts to degenerate significantly. Which seems to be happening too often.
but the message board content is atrocious. Buckeye Planet is by far the best OSU message board. A lot of long time UM fans there too.
I read the jokes and insults from the buckeye and Irish fans and I wonder how they ended up our rivals. How do they compete with us when they can barely spell and are so thoroughly deluded?
Let’s deconstruct this. You mentioned not only OSU fans, but ND fans. I’ll grant you OSU fans for the sake of argument, but let’s analyze your comments about ND fans. You question how they can compete with us when they can barely spell. In doing so you question their intelligence and delegitimize their status as fans. Now, many people regard ND as a better academic institution than Michigan. US News and World Report does, for instance. This seems inconsistent with your claim that ND fans can’t spell. So you are either unaware of ND’s academic prestige, or you were referring to some other group when you say “fans.” This group would have to be fans that aren’t formally associated with the University; the ND version of so-called Walmart Wolverines. “Walmart Wolverine” is regarded as a highly offensive term on this board, and suggests a degree of elitism that we as Michigan fans typically reject. Why is it that such ugly sentiments are inappropriate when others voice them, but fine when leveled against rivals? At least be consistent. I know this isn’t what you meant to say, but it is subtlety implied. For instance, I can imagine the following dialogue taking place regarding your comment:
Me: You’re questioning ND fans spelling ability? ND is a really good school!
You: Well, I meant the fans that didn’t actually go there.
Mgoblog: /collective head asplosion.
If I’m way off base, let me know. Not trying to accuse you of anything, it’s just that some people in this thread are taking the rivalry thing a bit too far.
While the way this guy chose to express himself was perhaps… less than artful, I find myself agreeing with him. Brady Hoke is from Ohio. A large portion of our recruits are from Ohio. Bo Schembechler was from Ohio. Many students at the University of Michigan are from Ohio. Hell, my father is from Ohio. Can we all just agree to refrain from commenting on the state itself? And don’t try to tell me you were just talking about the school. That whole “OT” thing was focused entirely on the state.
The bright ones go north?
Anyone else notice how one of the favorite meme of the 11w cretins is Denard's limitations as a passer? Sure, whatever,he has accuracy issues, but the mental picture I get is of U.S. soldiers hanging out after the battle of Little Big Horn saying 'hurr hurr, Sitting Bull's braves couldn't hit the broadside of a barn with their tomahawks, hurr hurr'
go all Lane Pryce vs. Pete Campbell on some of them Buckeye fans.
I just think it's funny that they expect us to believe they don't like being called "ohio" because it's disrespectful to the MAC Ohio... mmmk ohio fans
Nothing like breathing the same air as these people. Driving on the same streets. Shopping at the same stores. It's like the scene in Shaun of the Dead where they pretend to be zombies in order to sneak through a crowd. Now imagine that every day. Forever.
Awesome... And accurate.
Ann Arbor Community College better add that Exploring major, quick, if we plan on keeping up with Ohio
Should be "more retarded", retard.
A repeat of the Rich Rod era? They need to be careful what they ask for.
I typically enjoy about 90% of a Ramzy post, but then he inevitably says something like this that just drives me crazy:
So my problem with "Ohio" is that it just isn't insulting enough. Hoke should have and could have done better than to create a bunch of doddering clones muttering Ohio at every opportunity, the same way Woody still has teenagers condescendingly saying That Team Up North from beyond the grave.
So while using the word "Ohio" to refer to OSU is not insulting (read: clever) enough, having a bunch of Lima kids saying "The Team Up North" is somehow the apex of commentary and ridicule? I agree that referring to OSU as "Ohio" is never going to go down in the "burn" HOF* and certainly doesn't reach the level set by guys like Bo, Hayes, etc., it is at least as creative as defaming a school due to its geographical components relative to your campus.
So if a reason you don't like Hoke is that you feel his tongue-in-cheek reference to a rival doesn't meet the arbitrary curve you grade it on, it makes the rest of your arguments harder to digest.
* A whole wing is dedicated to Steve Spurrier's "You can't spell 'Citrus' without UT" (referring to U Tennessee).
Woah Lima? Like as Lima, OH?
Yep. Don't know why I hate that city, but I just do.
Sucks so much. The difference between that board and this one is as wide as an ocean. I know we have fans that act the same way. But I thank most of you for not behaving that way...
When did Hollis get an account at 11W?
I get so offended when they call us "that school up north". What a bunch luzers.
Well-written article, and I understand exactly where this guy is coming from. Michigan fans should want Ohio to be good year in and year out. Like this guy touched on, its no fun to beat the crap out of your rival when he can't even put up a fight. While I'm sure every Ohio fan enjoyed the shellacking Michigan received at the hands of Tressel during the Rich Rod era, in the back of their minds, I'm sure every one of them was wishing we would at least make the game competitive.
I hate Ohio, and I always will. But I want Top-5 matchups with them every year. I want both teams to be national title contenders coming down to the last week of the year.
It sickens me to say this, but we need them as much as they need us.