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August 1st, 2012 at 6:31 PM | Except that scholarship (Score:5 Normal)
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Except that scholarship specialists screw up too (Gibbons and Hagerup).  The difference between a scholarship snapper and whoever is the best of your 4 walk-on snappers just isn't that great.

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August 2nd, 2012 at 12:57 PM | Sorry but just because you offer a LS a scholly (Score:1)
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it is no guarantee that he will perform any better than a walk on.  In addition, there is no gaurantee that a LS you offer in June will be any better or even any different than a LS you offer in January. 

 

So the real question should be which has more value:

 

a) a LS scholarship in June vs

b) leaving a scholly open in case a 5 star LB or any other elite athlete has interest in your program and if they don't then still having that scholly available to offer that same LS or a similarly skilled LS. 

 

I would choose option B every time. 

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:00 PM | My qeustion is what if we (Score:1)
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My qeustion is what if we strike out on both LT and Green? What if we lose a recruit or two (did last year, 2 to be exact), what if say Furman or T. Carter leave (just off my head), that opens up spots.

 

Seems silly they wouldn't even consider it.

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:03 PM | If those things happen, then (Score:1)
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If those things happen, then there will be open spots.  At this moment in time there are no more spots for LBs.  I'm pretty sure the coaches have back up plans.

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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August 1st, 2012 at 7:11 PM | If we get no more commits at (Score:3 Normal)
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If we get no more commits at all we will still have one of the top recruiting classes in the country and all our positions of need filled.

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August 1st, 2012 at 5:59 PM | He said Jimbo and degree. (Score:1)
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Lol

[Caved troll is caved. Sorry, Mobile app users.]

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August 1st, 2012 at 7:03 PM | Jimbo and degree (Score:1)
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Does Jimbo have a degree from Michigan? You realize he went to Michigan right?

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August 2nd, 2012 at 9:54 AM | What makes (Score:1)
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What makes you think he went to Michigan?  According to Wikipedia he went to Salem College and Samford. 

"You're fat and you're mine".  Bo to Dan Dierdorf.

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:04 PM | Farrell's latest (Score:3 Normal)
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Farrell's latest tweet:

 

Mike Farrell ‏@rivalsmike

And just like that #Michigan pulls out of the Levenberry race unless they lose a commit per levenberry's father

 

Doesn't look like it will happen. But I suppose the more positive way to spin it is that the coaches must feel pretty confident in their chances at landing both Treadwell and Green.

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:07 PM | 15 minutes (Score:3 Normal)
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That was an exciting 15 minutes.  That is about the most action we can see on the board these days- the (untrue) rumor that maybe some player is maybe decommitting and maybe going to visit us.

 

#spoiledbyearlyrecruiting

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:24 PM | Farrell ≠ Mattison (Score:1)
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He'll tell EJ we're full. I don't buy it from Farrell.

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:02 PM | Michigan pulls out per Rivals (Score:1 Normal)
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Michigan pulls out per Rivals Mike

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:05 PM | Pulling out (Score:5 Normal)
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is good practice.  Sometimes there just isn't room for one more.

BILG

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:08 PM | (No subject) (Score:5 Normal)
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August 1st, 2012 at 6:23 PM | No, you were right the first (Score:3 Normal)
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No, you were right the first time...

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:08 PM | (No subject) (Score:5 Normal)
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August 1st, 2012 at 6:10 PM | Great double post (Score:5 Normal)
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Great double post

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:24 PM | Sometimes (Score:2 Normal)
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when you aren't properly protected, yes it is the right move

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:29 PM | some get scared and pull out (Score:0 Overrated)
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some get scared and pull out right in the middle of doing it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7NgLArJidY

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:51 PM | There isn't another slot (Score:5 Normal)
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There isn't another slot open?

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August 1st, 2012 at 8:38 PM | That my friend (Score:1)
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is the rythm method in action!

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August 1st, 2012 at 7:17 PM | I hate pulling out. (Score:1)
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Just saying.

I don't hate often but when I do, I prefer to hate that school in Ohio.  Stay Victorious My Friends.

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:13 PM | Regardless where he ends up, (Score:1)
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Regardless where he ends up, it's refreshing to see more kids "getting it" about UM.  Top notch degree, awesome tradition, awesome facilities, awesome coaching staff, plethora of rivalries, etc. 

If I was a top high school football prospect, my top choices would be schools like USC, UM, ND and Texas strictly on combined academics, tradition and football excellence alone.  It's fun to play ball for four years, but any kid with a half decent support network and family should understand the high probability he'll never earn a paycheck playing ball, and should thus go for a very good degree that opens doors after school.  Levenberry appears to get that.  FSU > community college, but it's no Florida, and certainly not a Michigan academically.  Whether he ends up with us or not, this is good to see.

 

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:27 PM | My understanding (Score:2 Normal)
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at the time was that he chose FSU because it had a better criminal justice program than Michigan. He was making his choice on academics and non-football future.

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August 1st, 2012 at 7:00 PM | It couldn't have been made (Score:2)
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It couldn't have been made purely on academics or his relationship with his coach wouldn't be this big of a deal.  I'm not saying academics didn't play a role, but if he committed because of academics, why would he decommit because of football?

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August 1st, 2012 at 7:44 PM | Dunno (Score:2)
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Who knows what goes on in the heads of 17 or 18 year old kids? Something's changed obviously...

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August 2nd, 2012 at 10:24 AM | In EJ's case... (Score:1)
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Academics was solely the reason. UM did NOT have the program that EJ wanted. However, once committed, FSU staff pretty much neglected (his position coach) him. IMO he felt left out. He MISSED that bond that UM staff was showing.

Secondly, it was a while back but a mogoblogger posted the steps EJ can take at UM for his field of interest.

Just saying Academics was a significant factor at the time for EJ.

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August 1st, 2012 at 11:44 PM | uhh (Score:4 Normal)
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Wait, wait. Could you go back to the part again where ND is excellent at football?

"The straightest line from A to B is straight: From A to B"

"When you have Denard Robinson, you can have everything"

~George Walden

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:16 PM | This is great and all but at (Score:1)
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This is great and all but at this point I really would like to see us add playmakers on offense. Our defense appears poised to be loaded based on the Hoke's first two recruiting classes. But we still lack the athletes at the offensive skill position that we became accustomed top throughout the '90's and earlu 00's.

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:27 PM | wow (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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if we didn't offer channel stribbling we'd still have a spot for him

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:28 PM | Or (Score:5 Normal)
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maybe we would have went out and found a different CB....

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:38 PM | How do you know Stribling (Score:4 Normal)
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How do you know Stribling isn't the next Charles Woodson?

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:55 PM | Stribling is a non-dwarf CB (Score:2 Normal)
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Stribling is a non-dwarf CB whom the coaches saw in person at camp. That's a reasonable case in which to say 'I'll trust the coaches on that one.'

It doesn't take D1 coaching acumen to question the value of a scholarship long snapper, however.

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August 1st, 2012 at 7:06 PM | Hey Joshisablowhard - if (Score:4 Normal)
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Hey Joshisablowhard - if you're gonna bitch about a recruit, at least make the effort to spell his first name correctly.  It's not all that hard. 

But as to your point - do you know better than the coaches how good Stribbling is?  The kid impressed in person in front of the coaches. 

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August 1st, 2012 at 8:36 PM | "Stribbling" (Score:5 Normal)
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Maybe you should spell his last name correctly.

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:30 PM | Sometimes (Score:0 Flamebait)
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I wish we were the sec. "hey, 5th year senior who never plays. How would you like to enter the grad assistant program a year early?". Come on, you all were thinking it.

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:33 PM | Um (Score:5 Normal)
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that's not what the SEC does. They make up injuries to underclassmen. Even Michigan sometimes doesn't bring 5th years back.

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:36 PM | Um (Score:-1 Overrated)
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The sec has numerous other practices when it comes to that. Anyways, it was a joke. Lighten up, guy, go get a drink.

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:39 PM | I'm gonna (Score:3 Normal)
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wait until Friday for a drink. I'm trying to avoid the whole week night drinking so that I can get in better shape lol. But yes, the SEC does have lots of practices to get rid of kids. I'm just saying, I'm not going to rag on them for the 5th year thing when it's something we've done. Not to mention, I don't really think it's all that un-ethical. A 5th year kid has already had 4 years in which to go to school and earn a free degree. That's not like getting rid of a 1st or 2nd year guy who has had virtually no shot to complete a degree.

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August 1st, 2012 at 7:04 PM | It is very possible we lose a (Score:2 Normal)
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It is very possible we lose a commit between now and NSD. I hope we don't, but its a good thing to have a back-up plan

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August 1st, 2012 at 7:11 PM | I don't know... this (Score:2)
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I don't know... this recruiting class seems pretty tight.  It seems like the two we hear the least about are Kugler and Poggi

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler

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August 1st, 2012 at 10:38 PM | Eh, I wouldn't worry about (Score:2)
Markovits is Great
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Eh, I wouldn't worry about those two.  Both come from coaching families with brothers at big time programs already, so I think they know what they're doing.  Poggi knew for a while where he was going, but held out to get more coaches to come out to his practices to check out his teammates.  Hopefully he likes it so much he brings Troy Vincent Jr along and whatever other talent comes out of the Gilman school.

Except for the other thing. That hurts the most. But the lack of respect hurts the second most.

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August 2nd, 2012 at 1:31 AM | Agreed (Score:1)
Caesar
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Pointing the finger in a particular direction is difficult, which is why I can't sign on about Kugler and Poggi, but the numbers and time until National Signing Day makes this seem more likely. 

If Levenberry is still a possibility, that's good enough. Though the Michigan recruiting strategy these days seems to minimize kids bailing, Levenberry would be a wonderful card to play if the need arises. 

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August 1st, 2012 at 7:10 PM | ive spent too much time (Score:0 Normal)
Skiptoomylou22
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stressing over EJ months ago. So to save the tears, I will not read any further.

Bo' Money Bo' Problems

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August 1st, 2012 at 7:13 PM | Some of these top prospects "play the field" (Score:1)
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so much they come off looking really indecisive.  I may be wrong, but it seems like Brandon and Hoke much prefer athletes who really want to come here and won't fool around too much with guys who want to "play the field". That's what worries me about Treadwell's recruitment.  I don't blame kids for wanting to check out ALL their options.  The stakes are high on all accounts.

"You owe it to every man, woman, and child in the State of Michigan to beat the Buckeyes and silence their fans!  Now go out there and make it happen!"

- Bo Schembechler (Result: U-M 22  OSU 0)

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August 1st, 2012 at 7:22 PM | Is there a way to take (Score:1 Normal)
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Is there a way to take Treadwell, Green, and EJ and still not go over the scholarship limit?

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August 1st, 2012 at 7:24 PM | As long as you know Nick (Score:2 Normal)
Craze for Maize
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As long as you know Nick Saban.

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August 1st, 2012 at 7:41 PM | attrition. seems like the (Score:1)
russale2012
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attrition. seems like the only plausible scenario besides hoke pulling a nick saban. i'd be willing to be someone transfers in the middle of the season. someone who gets buried on the depth chart. at that point, a spot for levenberry would open up.

It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk

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August 1st, 2012 at 8:16 PM | It's awful tough to wait (Score:1)
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It's awful tough to wait around on a maybe though...

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August 1st, 2012 at 8:23 PM | or (Score:-1 Flamebait)
IndyVictor
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lose the long snapper

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