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August 1st, 2012 at 6:06 PM | Deveon Smith is our every (Score:5 Normal)
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Deveon Smith is our every down back in this class.  Thomas Rawls is also an every down back and will be a Soph.  

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:13 PM | Oh yeah, totally forgot about (Score:2)
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Oh yeah, totally forgot about Rawls. He looks to be overachieving relative his modest recruiting profile. 

So I guess this means that even if we strike out on both Treadwell and Green and don't bring in anyone to replace them, we'll be just fine. Wow. Life is good. 

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:20 PM | Well no immediate Levenberry (Score:3 Normal)
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Well no immediate Levenberry commitment, so time for pictures of cats

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:04 PM | Best Player Available (Score:1)
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If the offense is going to be similar to what we saw with Carr/Moeller - there were rarely more than 8 scholarship WRs on the roster.  Right now, with the two '13 commitments, the '13 team will have 8 receivers, not counting Ricardo Miller or Devin Funchess (TE-WR tweeners, at least for now) or Norfleet (who could potentially be used in 4-wide sets).   Because Jerald Robinson red-shirted he'll be only one year apart from Darboh and Chesson (assuming they both play).

Under normal circumstances, you take 2 WR a year and expect some degree of attrition.  Unless you're running a 4 WR spread offense you don't need massive numbers at WR.  Not when you're taking FBs, TEs, and investing heavy scholarships into the RB position.

I don't think WR is a huge need, but they obviously want Treadwell.  If they can't land an elite WR they will pass.  There is no need for numbers, only for elite talent.  In that regard, WR is like most other positions - Michigan will take a high level recruit but doesn't NEED to add more bodies to provide depth...at this point in time.

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:08 PM | Maybe I should have worded it (Score:5 Normal)
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Maybe I should have worded it better, AN ELITE WR IS OF GREAT NEED.

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:06 PM | BPA?  You might have to (Score:3 Normal)
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BPA?  You might have to provide something to back that up.  His rating have done nothing but slide since he was first ranked.  He's good, but with the LBs we've got and the number of spots left, I have to question whether he's BPA material.

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August 1st, 2012 at 7:30 PM | He's one of the best (Score:1 Overrated)
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He's one of the best linebackers in this class as far as making a big impact upon hitting the ball carrier, and he's very active in coverage. Im not interested in linebacking prospects who live on arm tackles, and there's more than a few out there. EJ is in a class behind Reuben Foster as far as being a factor on defense from what I can see on YouTube. I'm not all that concerned with what his rating has done between one point of him not playing football to another.

Go Blue!

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August 1st, 2012 at 5:37 PM | may be interesting to see what happens (Score:2)
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It is very possible that we have some attrition this year once the season gets rolling. Please don't take this the wrong way, that is not what I am hoping for, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone buried on the depth chart opted to transfer for more play time.

Oh how I hate Ohio State

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August 1st, 2012 at 5:40 PM | Yeah but we can't sign (Score:2)
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Yeah but we can't sign players in excess of the scholarship limit. IF the coaches have been leaving a spot open for Levenberry all this time while continuing to recruit Treadwell and Green, then there may be some attrition coming that hasn't been made public yet.  

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August 1st, 2012 at 5:51 PM | dude we know there will be attrition (Score:3 Normal)
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but you're thinking about it wrong.

Our latest projected class # is 25 players.  We don't even have room for that right now.  We need (I think) 4 more guys to leave the program to sign 25.  So, when someone leaves, and then we say 'oh thats one more scholly', no its not.  Thats one less player that needed to depart to even have room for our current commitments.

So for these "dream scenarios" of taking Green, LT, and Levenberry/Priest Willis/McQuay, we'd need 26 spots and for 5+ guys to leave the program.

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August 1st, 2012 at 5:40 PM | From Sam Webb: (Score:4 Normal)
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Sam Webb ‏@SamWebb77

Lots of chatter suddenly about EJ Levenberry. Great player/prospect, but no room at the inn at #Michigan and no official visit to Ann Arbor

They no longer call me Bisbiño

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August 1st, 2012 at 5:45 PM | We don't have commitments (Score:1)
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We don't have commitments from either LT or Green. Hey I hope we land both, but how can you hold two spots when the kids haven't said they are coming? Do we take the chance of getting caught with our pants down and hold out schollys and possibly lose one or both, and also lose out on a top LB? Did they not say you better move quick to McQuay? Why not tell both the EJ is coming so you better pick your spot if you want it?

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August 1st, 2012 at 5:53 PM | The coaches must like our (Score:1)
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The coaches must like our chances.  I think Treadwell is an absolute lock.

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:58 PM | This. Those two guys havent (Score:2)
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This. Those two guys havent told YOU they are coming. Is it so outrageous to think they might tell Hoke things they dont tell us?

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August 2nd, 2012 at 8:52 AM | I think that Green and (Score:1)
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I think that Green and Treadwell are far from locks, and everyone else is a longshot (except of Mathis who is an enigma) so closing the door on EJL seems dubious.

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August 1st, 2012 at 5:49 PM | Nevertheless, I have a (Score:1)
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Nevertheless, I have a feeling we havent heard the end of this.

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August 1st, 2012 at 5:42 PM | Sam Webb ‏@SamWebb77 Lots of (Score:1)
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EDIT:  Mods have priority posting.  I fail.

Greetings from Bolivia.

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August 1st, 2012 at 5:43 PM | I hate to say it but I'd rather they hold out for (Score:4 Normal)
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Green and Treadwell at this point.  EJ is a great player, but the other 2 fill bigger needs. 

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August 1st, 2012 at 5:43 PM | Maybe Hoke is less sure about his two targets? (Score:2)
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Treadwell coming out and saying he wants to take more and more visits.  Or maybe he has a gut feeling he's going to be booting Clark off the team?

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August 1st, 2012 at 5:44 PM | Ugh this sucks. Dammit (Score:2 Normal)
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Ugh this sucks. Dammit Levenberry why couldn't you just commit back in the spring when you were supposed to, and then we wouldn't be in this situation?

I want this kid badly, but I just don't think we'll have room for him unless we have some attrition during the year, which I'm not hoping for unless someone legitimately wants out. Other than that, the only way I see him committing is if either Treadwell and/or Green commit elsewhere, and then a spot opens up.

It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:21 PM | This does not suck.  Michigan (Score:2 Normal)
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This does not suck.  Michigan has choices and is in a good position.

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August 1st, 2012 at 5:45 PM | I just read EJ's dad's statement and he sounds pissed. (Score:2)
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Seems like FSU is really screwing it up.

Yep, that's Simba made out of a pineapple.

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August 1st, 2012 at 5:46 PM | I'm a tad confused about the constant contact (Score:2)
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Does he not feel like he's wanted anymore?  His committment is relatively fresh.  

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August 1st, 2012 at 5:51 PM | It has been over 3 months (Score:1)
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It has been over 3 months now. 

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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August 1st, 2012 at 5:58 PM | Man time flies (Score:2)
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Ugh.

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August 1st, 2012 at 5:54 PM | Without giving away the article, I can (Score:2)
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say that EJ and his parents aren't happy with the FSU coaches for reasons somewhat along the line of what you suggested.

Yep, that's Simba made out of a pineapple.

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August 1st, 2012 at 7:35 PM | Am I the only one who is (Score:5 Normal)
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Am I the only one who is starting to think that EJ's dad is one of those overzealous dad's who is a royal pain in the ass?

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August 1st, 2012 at 5:49 PM | Can you give us hints, in pig (Score:2)
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Can you give us hints, in pig latin?  Or would the holier-than-thou Beaver and Balas take offense?

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August 1st, 2012 at 5:49 PM | This. I have pay access and (Score:3 Normal)
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This.

I have pay access and there is a something about how EJ has a better relationship with a certain D coach up North than one down South.

Was that vague enough for the mods?

Who is Jon Falk?
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August 1st, 2012 at 5:53 PM | I heard his name is similar (Score:5 Normal)
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I heard his name is similar to Shgreg Shmattison. 

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:04 PM | Hmm..can I have another hint? (Score:4 Funny)
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Hmm..can I have another hint?

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:10 PM |   (Score:5 Normal)
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Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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August 1st, 2012 at 10:30 PM | Hmm... ...not following (Score:2 Normal)
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Hmm...
...not following you..

...

........ Zeg Zattison? Dregg Drattidon?
Dammt! I could be at this ALL DAY before I figure this out.

Casey Anthony: Buckeye fan.

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August 1st, 2012 at 5:50 PM | Is it bad that I root for (Score:1 Normal)
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Is it bad that I root for attrition because the prospect of getting another blue chip is so exciting?

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August 1st, 2012 at 5:55 PM | Yes (Score:5 Normal)
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Yes

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:11 PM | Well, when you put it the way (Score:5 Normal)
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Well, when you put it the way you did, it doesn't sound bad as much as it does dumb.  I'm not calling you dumb, but losing a current player for some excitement isn't very smart for winning. 

Now, if you said you hoped for current roster players who most likely weren't going to play to move on so that we could fill his roster spot with a highly touted prospect, then that's different.  Maybe that's what you meant though, in which case it's not that bad. 

I guess hoping for Michigan football players to leave is a bad thing, but you can be OK with guys who make a decision to find PT elsewhere.

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August 1st, 2012 at 5:54 PM | This is new to us, having a (Score:1)
M-Dog
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This is new to us, having a full class of 5*s and 4*s by July, and having even more 5*s and 4*s lined up who want to join.  We're not used to it.

We need guidance from the Master:  What would Nick do?

M'Dog

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August 1st, 2012 at 5:56 PM | Cut the longsnapper? (Score:5 Normal)
htownwolverine
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Cut the longsnapper?

Who is Jon Falk?
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August 1st, 2012 at 6:16 PM | Start handing out the (Score:1 Normal)
TallyWolverine
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Start handing out the greyshirts.

 

Campaign manager--Hoke 2012.

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August 1st, 2012 at 5:57 PM | We don't need guidance from that Nick. (Score:3 Normal)
Hagen
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That Nick create mysterious injuries and the likes and sends young men who have worked their entire lives for scholarships to Southwestern Alabama State Institute of Technology.  I like how well coached his defense is, but that's about it.

Your father wouldn't want to hear this, Sonny.  This is business, not personal.

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:11 PM | Be Careful... (Score:5 Normal)
akearney50
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Joined: 09/26/2008
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Be careful, RDT's dad went to SWASIT.

I'm hungry.  Time to eat.

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:25 PM | Or as (Score:5 Normal)
MichFan1997
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we would call it here, Michigan State University.

Follow me on Twitter @gfraley05

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August 2nd, 2012 at 9:27 AM | Am I the only one (Score:2)
ChuckieWoodson
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That thought of this Nick

before this one when you asked what would Nick do?

"Touchdown... No flags!!"

Founder and current Commisioner of the ITGPD - Internet Tough Guy Police Department, est. 2012

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August 1st, 2012 at 5:57 PM | Not to be a dick... (Score:5 Normal)
BILG
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but how's that long snapper scholie looking now

BILG

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:12 PM | Not to also be a dick, but I (Score:5 Normal)
WolvinLA2
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Not to also be a dick, but I didn't even think it looked good then, let alone now.

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:52 PM | yep (Score:1 Normal)
STW P. Brabbs
Joined: 08/27/2008
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I really can't see any rationalization of the LS scholarship that doesn't sound silly at the end of the day. No offense to the young man, but the only conclusion I can come to is that Hoke apparently has a long-snap lizard brain that may end costing us a four-star recruit.

Mind, as lizard brains go it's a pretty innocuous one.

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August 1st, 2012 at 11:00 PM | Gotta fire him (Score:5 Normal)
LSA Aught One
Joined: 08/24/2011
MGoPoints: 854

Maybe one of you geniuses can step in and tell them how it's done. Obviously, Hoke hasn't played as much NCAA 13 as you guys or he'd realize his mistake.



Can't we just stop with the LS whining?!

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August 1st, 2012 at 7:21 PM | I was originally vehemently (Score:5 Normal)
turd ferguson
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I was originally vehemently opposed to offering a long snapper a scholarship.  I'll back off that a little now, but I am vehemently opposed to offering a long snapper a scholarship eight damn months before Signing Day.

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:18 PM | Long snapping (Score:5 Normal)
michgoblue
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Ask this question again when a game comes down to a critical fg. Or when we are protecting a narrow lead with seconds to go and have to punt.

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August 1st, 2012 at 6:29 PM | There was no question... WHAT (Score:5 Normal)
LexArborWolvCats
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Joined: 04/14/2012
MGoPoints: 132

There was no question... WHAT DO I ASK MYSELF!!!!!

Password is taco

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