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Effects of Noon game on SDSU?

Disclaimer: If MODS think this isn't worthwile feel free to do as you wish.


With that said... I know in the NFL when a west coast team comes East they hardly come away victorious (see Oakland last week vs Buffalo 1:00 EST start).  I don't have the exact stats but I know Vegas (for those people who do that sort of thing) also recognises this pattern.  

My question is to what effect does this pose in college football, since it happens much more infrequently and even earlier start time.  SDSU I am sure tried to acclemate with early practices, but Saturday will be a 9am start for them which would make for roughly a 4:30-5:00am wake up.

 

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September 23rd, 2011 at 5:37 PM | It should be a huge advantage (Score:5 Normal)
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Especially because we told them the game was at 3:00.

They no longer call me Bisbiño

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September 23rd, 2011 at 6:21 PM | I don't know why but I (Score:5 Normal)
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I don't know why but I couldn't stop laughing after reading this.  Thank you.

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September 24th, 2011 at 12:14 AM | Still laughing... (Score:1)
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Posts like that one are why I really miss the old posbang days.

 

 

 

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September 23rd, 2011 at 5:38 PM | See the comments (Score:-1 Redundant)
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in Brian's preview on the front page. Already addressed sufficiently.

Brady Hoke - High quality recruits one or two at a time.

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September 23rd, 2011 at 5:40 PM | holy buckets (Score:1)
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I hope they're asleep all ready (or not).

Noon doesn't seem like a fair shake, but I'll take whatever advantage we can get.

I would have assumed 330. Will be interesting.

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September 23rd, 2011 at 5:47 PM | At what point were you (Score:5 Normal)
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At what point were you planning on checking?  Good thing this thread happened or you would have missed the game.

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September 23rd, 2011 at 5:42 PM | great that we play at noon (Score:2 Normal)
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great that we play at noon though cause all the big games are at 3:30 and 8 with Okie State/A&M alabama/arkansas and LSU/WV.

903 wins most in college football

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September 23rd, 2011 at 6:01 PM | Effects (Score:3 Normal)
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Its going to reduce my sleep as well as tailgating time, which will drastically reduce my drinking. The result will be a huge deficiency in my HYPE factor. If I had to put a number on it, I'd say it costs Michigan 14 points. My HYPE factor directly affects UM's point production. Noon game = Advantage SDSU

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September 23rd, 2011 at 6:14 PM | Unless you're watching the (Score:5 Normal)
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Unless you're watching the game in Hawaii, you have no excuse.  Game starts at 9 for me and I plan to be buzzed by kickoff and drunk by halftime.  And I don't even plan to hit the hard stuff.

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September 23rd, 2011 at 6:25 PM | i plan on rolling out of bed (Score:2 Normal)
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i plan on rolling out of bed with just barely enough time to whip up a bloody mary before kickoff

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September 23rd, 2011 at 6:27 PM | Hopefully SDSU has the same (Score:5 Normal)
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Hopefully SDSU has the same strategy

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September 23rd, 2011 at 9:29 PM | You mean the drinking before (Score:1 Redundant)
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You mean the drinking before kickoff strategy?

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September 23rd, 2011 at 6:34 PM | ... (Score:3 Normal)
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I'm still bringin it. I get up at 4AM to make the 3 hour drive and hit the Golf Course by 7AM, but that 3 1/2 hours of lost tailgating time time really sucks. UTL spoiled me.

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September 23rd, 2011 at 8:51 PM | That is sad. (Score:0 Normal)
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If you can't get HYPED up for a Michigan game without having to drink, to me that is just sad.  I went to the WMU this year and had like 3 beers, no buzz at all and I still came out of that game from just under 3 quarters with no voice.  I get enough HYPE from the site of tailgating, going to the game and seeing 110,000 fans rooting on the Maize and Blue.

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September 23rd, 2011 at 9:26 PM | If you're intention is to (Score:1 Normal)
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If your intention is to promote temperance, then it seems like a poor strategy to refer to those who drink as "sad." You seem to have made it to a point in your life where you can drink in moderation, but I wonder why you need to throw your own success into relief by dissing on others. Put differently, I'm not sure you're in the clear yet. Are there other issues that you might like to bring out before the group?

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September 23rd, 2011 at 9:41 PM | you sound awesome...but don't (Score:3 Normal)
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you sound awesome...but don't judge others

btw since when is having three beers not drinking?

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September 23rd, 2011 at 11:30 PM | 3 beers in one setting... (Score:1)
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I once had to take an alcohol class in college, and they said three drinks in one sitting mean you have "a problem."  But if you just stick with beer then I guess that only counts as one.

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September 24th, 2011 at 12:18 AM | yeah...three drinks in one (Score:2)
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yeah...three drinks in one sitting means I definitely have a "problem" driving...maybe not otherwise...but I am most defintely "drinking"

 

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September 24th, 2011 at 2:38 AM | What if you just pour it all (Score:2)
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What if you just pour it all in a really big glass?

Got a quarter?

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September 24th, 2011 at 12:19 AM | Uh, right... (Score:1)
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If you can't get HYPED up for a Michigan game without having to drink, to me that is just sad.

First of all, nobody said they HAD to drink to get hyped up. I was going to go further, but that really negates your entire post, so I won't bother.

Have fun with your sadness, though, and have a great day.

 

 

 

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September 23rd, 2011 at 10:05 PM | Well Rob (Score:1)
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Somehow I doubt you will let a noon game stop you.  I bet you will calculate that 151Rum consumed in 2 hours will have the same affect.

From the Red Cedar Message Board:  "God hates us."  Yes He does Lil Bro, yes he does.  Everyone hates you.

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September 23rd, 2011 at 6:29 PM | I'm pretty certain (Score:1)
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San Diego State flew into Detroit Thursday afternoon

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/FFT8569/history/20110922/2200Z/KSAN/KDTW

 

In general though the OP is correct West Coast teams flying East have a difficult time winning, as do Eastern teams flying West.

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September 23rd, 2011 at 6:35 PM | If that's their flight, (Score:1)
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If that's their flight, that's a good way to go.  They got in pretty late by the time they got everyone from the plane out to AA, but it didn't seem late for them so last night wasn't a good night of sleep for those guys.  Hopefully it takes them more time to adjust.

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September 23rd, 2011 at 7:06 PM | Ahh Flighttracker (Score:3 Normal)
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Memories of January coming back in a rush.

Brady Hoke - High quality recruits one or two at a time.

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September 23rd, 2011 at 7:02 PM | If the hotel management are (Score:2 Normal)
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If the hotel management are Michigan fans, they should offer free movies all night long.

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September 23rd, 2011 at 7:05 PM | This makes perfect sense! (Score:1)
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This is the reason Dwayne Jarrett looked like Jerry Rice and why we lost to USC in 2006...DAMN YOU COASTS OF THE WEST! 

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September 23rd, 2011 at 7:09 PM | If their qb isn't a morning person then.. (Score:1)
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that swings everything in our favor. He has a lazer pass game and finds deep targets quick, our best bet is keeping them from breakaway plays and locking down the red zone when they get there. 

How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon

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September 23rd, 2011 at 7:46 PM | Going west is harder (Score:2 Normal)
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Some past studies suggest that it's harder to go west than east.  In the latter case, the normal circadean sleep-wake cycle is disrupted more; and this disruption is reflected in the poorer win-loss pcts of teams going west (vs. east).

That said, it's probably better not to travel at all, since any time-zone travel is likely to confuse your biological clock.

michelin

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September 23rd, 2011 at 8:08 PM | I would agree IF (Score:1)
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I would tend to agree with this if the game was say a 8pm West Start.  Then the travel west would be hard.  But traveling west for a Noon or 3pm west start is really no different than a normal East Coast time zone game.  My point being team traveling west to east is harder for earlier start (ie. noon) but harder for team traveling east to west for night game on west coast. (See Michigan hockey at Alaska)

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September 24th, 2011 at 11:14 AM | yes and no (Score:1)
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I don't recall how the past studies of time zone performance controlled for game time; however, it does seem logical that the game time should be a factor, as you suggest.

But I do not think that "traveling west for a Noon or 3pm west start is really no different than a normal East Coast time zone game."   The problem, again, involves the fact that your brain's clock gets reset when you travel.  It normally starts producing a sleep-inducing hormone, melatonin, when the sun goes down, which occurs later when you go from east to west.  So, even if the game time in the west is the same as in the east, your biological clock does not realize this.  It may even get confused and no longer know what time it is.  So, you can feel sluggish and perform more poorly.

michelin

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September 23rd, 2011 at 8:12 PM | It cant hurt (Score:1)
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     If you add the "I should be eating wheaties" factor to the "Only Denard can stop Denard" factor, I'm going to guess that pushes our chances of victory up to around 62%.

     In terms of causation though, and sorry to beat a dead horse, but if Michigan does win, isn't that more of a testament to Rich Rodriguez's team-building skills than Brady Hoke's?

     And if San Diego State wins, isn't that more of a testament to Hoke's team-building skills than Rocky Long's?

     By the percentages, I'd put around 25% of the credit for a Michigan win on Hoke and company(Well, maybe 40% if you include Mattison).

     By the same token, I'd put around 65% of the credit for a San Diego State win on Hoke and Borges.  They recruited the players and installed the offense.

     One thing is for sure, there is a 0% chance that Brian is going to be impressed with anything that happens on the field on Saturday.

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September 23rd, 2011 at 8:13 PM | Game time (Score:1)
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This games hould have been a night game, now that they have the lights in Ann Arbor. They need to take advantage of that now.

Go U of M! Have a great 2011 season!

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September 23rd, 2011 at 8:26 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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And why would that have been an advantage? Earlier the better against a west coast team.

I just destroyed that toilet with a huge Rosenberg.

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September 23rd, 2011 at 9:07 PM | I like the set up. As for how it plays out... (Score:1)
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Probably not good. Effects of Denard on the Aztecs , downright brutal. UM 35 , SDSU 24.

All in for some manball.

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September 23rd, 2011 at 9:16 PM | I heard the statistic on (Score:2)
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I heard the statistic on Cowherd's show - I don't remember what it is, but it might have been close to 80% wins for the east/central time zone teams playing west coast teams at 1PM.

I think this stat is misleading for 1 big reason.  Typically, as of late pacific time zone teams stink on the whole and the best teams are more likely to be found in the EST and CST playing home games at 1PM.

Think about it...  New England, Indianapolis, Green Bay, Chicago, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Philadelphia, New York x2, Atlanta....are simply better over the past few years than anything the PST  can throw at it...San Diego and Arizona are okay, but San Francisco, Seattle,  and Oakland have been brutally bad.

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September 24th, 2011 at 12:19 AM | I played flagged football for (Score:2)
SysMark
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I played flagged football for years at 9AM....and I had no trainer...they have no excuses

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September 24th, 2011 at 1:37 PM | It looks like it has had an impact. (Score:1)
SalvatoreQuattro
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SDSU looks terrible thus far.

"The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Urban Meyer!"

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