Seth9

January 29th, 2010 at 11:30 PM ^

Michigan certainly didn't play well, but disallowing an obvious game-tying goal is the same thing as robbing the game. The refs cost Michigan the game tonight, who maybe didn't play well enough to win it, but certainly played well enough to get to overtime. That was total and utter BS and the result continues to make me wonder with amazement that Shegos is still employed as a referee.

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LiveFromYost

January 29th, 2010 at 11:49 PM ^

The worst refs ever in the history of the game all are from the CCHA Wilkins, Shegos, Hill, Hall, Piotroski (retired tard running his band of tards), and McInchak (This dude is crazy). You can throw Langseth in there too even though he hasn't been a referee that long. What's the big tall dopey ref who played at either FSU or LSSU? Ahh I can't think, (from slapshot) Oh what's his name...? Blown call, but who will be held accountable? That's right, NO-FUCKING-BODY! Because Steve Piotrowski has nuts the size of pebbles. He's just riding his time out makin' a good dime. /whine

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bouje

January 30th, 2010 at 1:18 AM ^

While your list of refs is great and all and I'll agree that most suck DO NOT link Piotrowski in with them. He was BY FAR the best referee that the CCHA had for many years. Every game I went to for four years we prayed that Piotrowski was our Ref... but we got Shegos and Wilkins instead... But when we did get Piotrowski it was always a great game. Maybe he's a terrible manager but do not call him a tard because frankly he's the best ref I've ever seen in the CCHA and was always fair.

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LiveFromYost

January 30th, 2010 at 10:18 AM ^

Ok man maybe he wasn't the worst, but he still sucked. I saw him make just as many bad and favorable calls (both ways) in his career. Nobody is perfect, but this guy isn't even close to good. Sorry I hit a nerve there with your boy Steve. A turd is still a turd even if you're the best one in the bowl.

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LiveFromYost

January 30th, 2010 at 12:37 AM ^

Is that what he pulled out of the net and threw to the students? Candy? It's hard to see from section 8, but you know how you students just hammer the linesmen to "CHECK THE NET" Next thing I know Tunison is throwing two objects over the glass into the student section. PS - Molina's a pretty cool dude too. Linesmen seem to be ok, but once they get those orange stripes they seem to drop a chromosome.

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mich12fan

January 30th, 2010 at 1:10 AM ^

I'm pretty sure that was Wilkins covering that side of the ice and was completely out of position for the goal. If you remember the play where Summers was checked from behind and the ensuing State goal was called off, Shegos was literally directly behind the net and was clearly in the correct position for the play. Now turn to the play that the whistle was blown early. I will agree that the intent to blow the whistle is stupid and it must be used properly, which it obviously wasn't in this case. But if you remember where Wilkins was positioned on that play, he was on the goal line, about the distance of the faceoff dot away. When he waves it off from that far away, he is not in position to make that call properly. Now the CCHA will never admit this, b/c they protect their own (see Notre Dame game at home last season). I am not defending Shegos here, just pointing out the fact that in the first case, he was in proper position and Wilkins was not.

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The Bugle

January 30th, 2010 at 11:57 AM ^

As much as it blows to have calls like this - he and all of the other refs listed above are considered to be some of the best -- all because they have been around forever. If you are around for 15 years - with 30+ games a year - even with a modest 30 whistles per game - that is a shit ton of calls. There are going to be some atrocious calls mixed in with the good. The result of last game's shitty call was terrible - but you have to just believe in the equilibrium of the universe. The bad calls will even out over time.

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TIMMMAAY

January 30th, 2010 at 2:14 PM ^

So I'm not a big hockey guy, but I watched most of the game last night. I quit watching (not by my choice) near the end, so I missed the goal in question. My question: does college hockey not have the ability to review and overturn that call? I guess the answer should be apparent, but WHY would they not have this?

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BigBlue02

January 30th, 2010 at 2:36 PM ^

It is similar to advancing a fumble in the NFL after an inadvertent whistle. Not exactly the same, but same idea. If a guy fumbles it but the whistle blows by accident or the ref calls him down by contact, a defensive player could still pick up the ball and run it in for a TD. None of this would matter though because the ref blew the play dead. The thinking is that players stop when they hear a whistle, so no one would really know if the defensive player would have actually scored the TD if the offense didn't think the player was down. A coach can challenge the fumble, but if the play were to be reversed and the ref were to see that it was in fact a fumble, the outcome wouldn't be a defensive TD but the ball would be dead where the player fumbled the ball for the aforementioned reason. In hockey, all the ref would be able to review would be the actual shot on goal (which would be the same as the fumble in the football scenario). In this case, we all know that it was a shot and it did trickle through the goalies legs, unfortunately Shegos blew his whistle too early and their justification of why you couldn't review it is because there would be no way to tell if it would have gone in had all the players kept playing after the inadvertent whistle. In short, no, you wouldn't be able to review this sort of thing. Which sucks as we should have had overtime to decide the winner of that game last night.

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