for the slaughter and to see some of the ugliest uniforms you'll ever see. Sunglasses recommended
Early Games Open Thread
Hopefully Blake Bortles and UCF play well. Otherwise the early slate is really terrible.
Come on UCF strike a blow to the evil empire.
Change out the blue for brown and West Virginia would be completely channeling their inner retro San Diego Padres with these uniforms. Good lord...
Please tell me they've stopped selling the maize uniforms at mden. This is the case for their banishment for all eternity
Why, why why would anyone think that is a good color? My eyes are bleeding.
Great day in Oregon to sit inside and watch football carefree of Michigan winning or losing. I've got a cold and it's supposed to rain 4 inches by this evening, but those WVA unis are keeping me warm.
You should get some more rays of sunshine when Washington plays.
UFC moving it with the passing game on the opening drive.
U-C-F Knights! Down with the SEC! They took the first drive right down the cock's throats for a 7-0 lead. Storm Johnson (transfer from Miami (YTM)) is the real deal at running back for them.
Yes. If UCF can play that way the rest of the game it'll go down to the wire.
If UCF plays like this the rest of the game, they will win by 5 TD's.
Purdue is apparently underdogs at home on homecoming against a MAC school. I mean I know NIU was in the Orange Bowl last year, but still, BIG TEHHHHNNN.
Cocks lose fumble! Shaw maybe hurt. Early momentum with UCF.
This game has all the the makings of an upset early, everything going wrong for South Carolina.
How long will it take UCF to realize that USC is putting it on Davis' back?
West Virginia getting some real bang for the buck, as it were, out of their offense - 3.39 yards per play at the moment while giving up almost twice that to Oklahoma State.
Yeah, managing to be up a score with those stats is pretty impressive.
It's still early. OSU and WVU run a ton of plays, so things should balance out in the end. More plays should reduce the effects of outliers.
One spot with the ok st loss
looks like the real deal, huh? I remember him as being super duper skinny
He is going to be a solid NFL player.
NIU is really working over Purdue right now. I don't expect them to go undefeated this year, but they look really solid.
This year for niu
Purdue now down 7-20 (pending XP) to NIU. BoilerQuest engage
Like, a good offense. Their O-line blocks, their running backs run, their receivers get open and their QB hits them. If I hadn't heard I here, I wouldn't have known that you needed 5 years of development of top 10 recruiting classes before you could make scoring look easy against a weak MAC team.
Who said that UM need "5 years of development of top 10 recruiting classes before you could make scoring look easy against a weak MAC team."? Michigan scored 59 versus CMU. Yes, they struggled against Akron. We all know that. But we also know that UM has put up plenty of points versus weak MAC teams under Hoke.
45 vs EMU, 34 in a storm-shortened game versus WMU, 63 versus UMASS, 59 versus CMU, and 28 versus Akron. Akron is clearly an outlier here.
To characterize the Hoke/ Borges apologists here. Sorry you didn't get that.
And Akron might be considered an "outlier", even as bad as they are, if we hadn't repeated the same abysmally bad offensive performance the very next week. No team that can be considered remotely good (and a lot that can't be) has had two such embarrassing showings on offense this year.
Until they prove otherwise, the last two games have to be considered a trend and not an anomaly.
You dismiss 41 pts versus a top 20 opponent while at the same trumpeting two poor performances versus inferior opponents. Sorry, but that argument does not fly.You cannot ignore one game to make an argument. You have to give all data available equal weight if you want your argument to be taken seriously.
I don't know why UM is performing so poorly on offense right now. The first two games tell me this offense is much, much, much better than what it is now. But the last two games were so bad that it causes me to wonder what is going on.
Is is youth? That could be a cause. Young teams have shown a tendency to perform in a wildly inconsistent manner. But whatever it is it needs to be corrected.
We moved the ball almost at will against Akron, we just gave it to them before we scored. Now, turnovers are part of the game, but our offensive moved the ball extremely well against them (actually averaged more yards/play than we did against CMU).
That said, I agree that this team has shown some serious weaknesses, and not just on offense. Our defense got carved-up by Akron and then let UConn score TDs everytime they were in the red zone.
I agree that the last two games are more than an anomaly. But it's not just the offense, and Mattison isn't above criticism. The Akron game was terrible, then against UConn he made some very questionable calls on big downs and lost the battle in the red zone (something he always talks about winning).
No one on Michigan deserves a pass right now; Jeremy Gallon is the closest, but we need more plays out of our WRs too.
Great clean hit called a penalty.I appreciate and condon the targeting rules, but this is ridiculous. Player A shoulder hits Player B's shoulder and is penalized for targeting. Ugh. These calls need to be reviewed.
29-0 with 7 mins to go in the first half. They did a swinging gate 2-pt conversion and then followed that up with an onside kick. Why they pull out all the chicanery against the Redhawks, I have no idea.
Illinois is putting on a clinic right now. 5 touchdown passes for Scheelhaase and there is 5 minutes left in the 1st half! Bill Cubit knows what he's doing with that offense.
to hire him away. A well-conceived offense would be a welcome change.
Honestly, as unlikely as that would be, I wouldn't be dissapointed with that hire. I've always liked what Cubit does as an OC. That said, while his offense can be fun to watch, not only is it a little too gimmicky at times, I dare say the spread offense ship has already sailed away from Ann Arbor...and isn't welcome back.
Big Ten teams and it was hit and miss versus MAC teams. WMU did not compete seriously for MAC titles for most of his tenure as HC/OC. This despite having quality talent on offense.
Bill Cubit is a decent OC, but his past isn't as filled with success as Borges'. I have seen his teams play. I'm not overly impressed. Beating up on a terrible Miami team with a senior QB is not supposed to impress us. But for some odd reason it is impressing some on here.
I went to WMU during the beginning of his tenure there and got to watch what he was able to do with Greg Jennings and Tony Scheffler. So my opinions of him are little more biased. His offense is undeniably fun to watch when it's clicking, but is definitely geared towards the MAC (I don't think he had much success as an OC in the Big East, Pac 10 or Big 12). We'll just have to see how Illinois does with their offense come conference play before we go off and start labeling him too much one way or another.
I think reasonable minds can disagree on that. (Supporters will point to his inaugural year at Auburn, in which he had a senior Jason Campbell and two first round RBs. Detractors will point to various other stops, and the regression his offenses experienced at every stop, including Michigan so far.)
What regression did his SDSU offense experience? They looked a hell of a lot better in year 2 than year 1.
To say moreover that Michigan has experienced regression is way premature. We're still averaging 38 ppg.
If Borges' big success this decade is his second year in the Mountain West, let's consider his second year at Michigan:
2010 (last year pre-Borges): 488 yds/game (Nat'l rank: 8)
2011 (first year): 404 yds/game (Nat'l rank: 42)
2012 (second year): 383 yds/game (Nat'l rank: 79)
To me, this is regression. (And this is putting aside 2013.) As I said, reasonable minds can disagree about Borges. Some people may think he is a very good OC. When I look at this career, including his times at Cal, Indiana, Auburn, and Michigan, I reach a different conclusion. Given that Hoke is an excellent recruiter, Mattison is a very good DC, and Brandon loves Hoke, it's likely we will have Borges (and maybe even Funk) for many years, with good (but not elite) teams and mediocre to good offenses at best. In other words, a very clean program (with likeable coaches) that has a lot of 9-4 years. This may remind you of another period in our history.
They also scored 41 versus ND.
How is that not a well-conceived offense?
Worth beans against two of the worst teams in the country. A well-conceived offense is consistent, among other things. It doesn't have bad games against weak defenses. See Oregon and Wisconsin for examples.
A poorly-conceived offense would not be able to do that. You also forget how young the starting QB is in terms of playing experience. Gardner has 9 games experience as a starting QB. Now add in a young interior OL and it should not surprise us that they are up-and-down.
Your two examples have ran the same offenses for a decade or more. In no way is UM, which is still transitioning to manball, comparable to either Oregon or Wisconsin. It's easy to produce when every starter has been recruited and trained specifically for that offense. Both of those teams are also more experience than UM is on offense.
As noted above, we moved the ball extremely well against Akron. DG just kept giving them the football.
Yeah, because the spread worked so well in Ann Arbor the last time.....
that you're impressed with our offense so far?
Look, we have some problems up front and QB needs to get his confidence back, but we scored 100 points in our first two games. You seem to have completely forgotten those games ever happened. If we can stop committing four turnovers per game, I have a hunch we'll score a little bit more.
Purdue belongs in the GLIAC after this performance.
That was a very lazy route by the UCF receiver
The Purdue grad in me has a sad...
Come on UCF! I hate the SEC!
WVU ahead of OkSU, 24-14. We could be moving up in the polls without playing a game.
hurt? Guess so. Carry on. . .
Here's a halftime snapshot of the Purdue game:
3rd down efficiency
|2 of 5||3 of 8|
4th down efficiency
|16 of 20||7 of 18|
Yards per pass
Yards per rush
From those stats you expect a close game or even Purdue winning... until you get down to turnovers. And that says it all.
Purdue just burned a redshirt on a QB named Etling that is supposed to be their future. He threw two lasers to set up a fg to end the half. He might be what to watch in the second half of the early games.
And it's gone.
Purdue may win 1 B1G game this year. 1
Hopin' UCF doesn't regret leaving at least that FG on the field due that INT late in the half.
At the Carolina vs. E. Carolina game. Carolina fans already leaving.
It is almost halftime though, so they could be going to concessions.
I'm at the game . . . they are leaving
Having a viewing party for that game and loving every second of it. My roommate and I agreed before the game to shotgun a beer every ECU touchdown which is pretty regrettable, however.
Jonas mouton alert for UCF
Is it just me? Did Danny Etling fall into the container of eye black?
Also, nice fake punt by Purdue to get the first down. The anti-Zook move - DON'T punt when they least expect it.
USC makes adjustments. And evudently UCF assumes USC will make no adjustments.
Hmmm, looks to me like Spurrier made a lot of adjustments.
The Big Ten needs to sit Purdue down and have a conversation with them. This shit is downright embarrassing.
Can we kick them out of the conference?
Rugers and Maryland are major upgrades over them. Their football program couldn't compete in an FCS conference.
This is a team that nearly lost to Indiana St. It's a pretty bad program right now, but I guess every conference needs at least one. I mean, the ACC has UNC, Big 12 apparently has WVU (though today's game is going better than I expected). But yeah, Purdue needs to figure out what they are doing.
Glad for the fumble on USC, but no way Spurrier was going to let his QB throw for that. UCF's coaches got RPS'ed pretty badly on that call that they should've known was coming.
That's 17 points across the four turnovers committed by Purdue, so there's that. Take away those points, and Purdue is still down by two scores, so there's that too.
So you're saying that they're bad and that they should feel bad?
I've like your approach of making a team feel better with facts pointing out how them sucking is at least partially self-inflicted, not just getting worked over by a better squad. Makes you feel like, heck, you almost had a chance to make it a respectable loss.
NIU is going to have the heads of 2 Big Ten programs on their mantle after this one.
MAC >>>> Big Ten
NIU is a good team with a great, experienced QB They could take out Kentucky and Vanderbilt and any of the lower tier of most conferences. Sadly the B1G was the one scheduling them.
NIU did make it to a BCS game last year you realize? They have the same QB and receiving corps too. They got smashed by Florida state, but would probably take West Virginia to the cleaners
How did Purdue hang with Notre Dame? I'm thinking the Irish are in for a whooping tonight against Oklahoma. That 3.5 spread is looking nice.
I think, at the end of the day, Notre Dame just isn't that good. Having Tommy Rees as the QB severely narrows Kelly's playbook, and the defense just isn't what it was last year.
Plus, I think playing Notre Dame is like when you play Michigan, or the Yankees, or any high-end program: every opponent is going to give you their best game.
I don't think Rees is that bad. He's not a great fit for a coach who likes to pass 50 times a game, though. ND has good backs but Kelly doesn't like to commit to the ground game.
Plus, 20 year-olds tend to just play like crap sometimes.
It's the "Little Brother" effect. Regional rival that feels disrespected every year, and that rage can make up for a disparity in talent and ability.
Duct tape and paper clips. They hung in tight against Notre Dame last year and took Ohio State to overtime, but every other loss was by at least 16 points. They only managed to get bowl eligibility by squeaking out 3-point wins against bad Iowa and Illinois teams.
I think it may just be that they can put together a maximum of two good games a year against major conference opponents.
Gotta wonder why Spurrier just didn't go power run game from the start? UCF currently has no answer.
Saw the INT coming from a mile away. Waaaaay too far a throw for a RB to make.
Godfrey used to be a QB so throwing isn't a foreign concept for him. In fact he was recruited by Michigan back in the day to be a dual-threat QB.
I really hope they can lay the wood against the 3-1 Falcons. Would make me sleep a whole lot better tonight.
Looks like we are leaving the game too now. Lol. Carolina fans. Meltdowns everywhere. I heard at least a dozen people say they are looking forward to BBall.
As much grief as Mack Brown gets for underachieving, he must have been a pretty good coach earlier in his career, because he made UNC really good for awhile. They've been crappy basically ever since he left for Texas.
It's official. Penn State is not as good as South Carolina.
Yikes - Purdue is losing by the largest margin ever by a B1G school to a MAC school (38 points).
In that same vein, ECU is murdering UNC by 18.. and it should be more if ECU wasn't being merciful. Also, West Virginia is beating Ok State. I think it's safe to say that the mid-majors are definitely gaining some strength. There is definitely parity around college football these days.
They prob still need a TO to really win this game but they have certainly given sc a big scare
Props to the wvu band for playing the jeopardy music during the replay
That's becoming clichéd. UConn's band did it as well.
doesn't even look like a MAC team. Embarrasing, even if NIU is very good.
They'll probably go on to lose 14-52 now
Ok st WRs all have butterfingers
Rod Gilmore is just terrible. Shut up!
ND already down a TD after an OK TAINT
Rees with another int!!
Notre Dame sucks.
Wow, this could get really ugly for ND.
So much for ND being a quality win.
ND down 14-0
Tommy Rees: 0/3 2 INT
I hate that I want them to win because that's hilarious otherwise
Some appallingly bad clock management here by WVU. They may survive, but yeech.
Brian Kelly's face has turned colors twice in the first three minutes.
1/5 -5 yards 2 INT
Buffalo all over UConn 21-6 in the 2nd. Ugh