My eye is on BTN to see if MSU can keep it up or not.
Early games open thread
Minny's white helmets look horrible with the dark home colors.
God forbid we ever do anything like that. I know we'll never mess with the helmets but to go to the Rose Bowl so rarely that you make a special reference to it.....dang.
(never thought I'd say that with a straight face)
MSU looks to be sleepwalking after that opening drive.
Illinois shows what even an average BIg 10 defense can do. Nice stop for them there.
On their first drive too. It's early.
but it's more how Illinois stopped MSU. That sack on 3rd and long seems to be a pretty strong statement.
I don't know how I feel about the MSU/Illinois game. If MSU wins, they continue their streak and look like a legit team, but they are State so rooting for them makes me sick. If Illinois loses, their momentum from the Penn St. game and perhaps their season will unravel, but watching MSU stumble is always fun.
That play action pass for MSU is just not working for them. Cousins had the same issue last week, and already has the Illinois defense in his face.
i dont think they are as bad as people think. I know they Penn State has no offense, but ot put up 33 points on their D is pretty impressive. Hopefully they beat MSU and shut up all of sparty nation.
Let's Go Blue!
That was a catch. Refs are letting the hometown fans make the calls.
They're in midday form already.
inside the ten on Indiana. Good gravy.
Arkansas St as I hit save.
Ilini have a nice little drive going
I took all four underdogs in Big 10 play. I also have Pitt -1
Not much scoring early yet
Chris Martin is unlistenable. Worst color guy in college football.
I understand establish the run, blah, blah, blah. But the 3rd and longs....don't seem to be problem so far.
EDIT: Would've been nice to have had a few PI/D Holding calls last week.
There's the Sparty we know and love.
Somebody mentioned above that MSU looked flat. I dont know so much about that, its hard to judge that so early. But, the crowd sure is flat.
Although that penalty sequence shows Sparty isnt nearly in tight form right now
Does any one know why Purdue is wearing their away uniforms for a home game?
Teams are allowed to do that. LSU and I think Georgia Tech always wear white at home. I'm not sure why Purdue is doing that today, though.
I've seen that a several times this year on TV games. The other that comes to mind right away was the James Madison/ V-Tech game.
Three weeks in a row, Sparty dodges points early.
Gotta give their red zone D some props
Well Sparty stiffened when they had to.
Do you understand what This Week In Schadenfreude means?
Purdue just ran the midline to perfection for a 3 yard touchdown. We really need to adopt that play.
RichRod: thanks, without your bringing this play to my attention I wouldn't have known about it. Would you like to be my offensive coordinator?
Illinois need to be a few inches short when they got that 1st n goal. 2nd and inches from the 8 is much better than 1st and goal from the 8.
Illinois has pretty much already kicked more touchbacks in the game than we have all season.
And keep it interesting at the end, and with Texas-Nebraska at 3:30, I think this is the week the Fan Vision thing pays big dividends.
OT: Does anyone know where to find an HD stream of the game today?
The play fake isn't working at all for MSU.
...that you'll never see thanks to BTN
At least the announcers were REALLY excited about it.
So Illinois doesn't go with the "run your most diminutive RB into the line on 3rd and short" strategy.
Those are some serious dreads.
Holy dreads. Denard still has a thing or two to learn it seems.
you can barely see his numbers!! I think it looks pretty terrible personally. Nothing beats the classic dreads look (see: Denard, Smith, Hemmingway, Odoms, Stokes, Gallon, Ash, etc.) Wow, we really do have a lot of dreadlocked guys on our team! I love it!
Locks = speed. I like speed.
Why couldn't state get more of those penalities last week? Illinois might actually have a football team this year.
Scheelhaase is very poised for a freshman. He's going to be a good one - as long as Zook doesn't find a way to screw him up.
EDIT: And then he throws to Tacopants and gets picked off.
Nah, it was on target to the deeper receiver... just an awful decision. HIs passes also aren't all that sharp. He will be one of the two worst QBs we face all year.
Purdue has rose stems on both sides of their helmets. Pretty cocky.
I think they're commemerating their last trip to Pasadena. Not saying they're going there this year.
MSU penalties are not ironic. MSU penalties are expected, because Dantonio's discipline is a myth.
Well look at Sparty. Wow. That was a worse INT than any of Denard's.
EDIT: Obvs not worse in terms of where it happened on the field but way worse in terms of a poor throw
Wait, I mean- Illini noooooooooo!!!
Scheelhaase throws a pick.
"Cory Lidget has been legit." Ugh.
Too legit, too legit to quit?
Wow, great stop by Illinois on third down. MSU going for it?
Edit: Now this is the typical Sparty we all know
Could Warner Bros./Dark Horse Comics potentially send Sparty some type of cease and desist for completely ripping off the "what is your profession" line?
Should go all Sin City on their ass!
AHAHAHAHA! BALLSY! SPARTA!
Robbie Hummel is out for the year. Ouch
For MSU any more? It's going to be a sucky year to live in this State.
Sparty might need a half to wake up after the emotions of last week but I'm sure enjoying their craposity right now.
suffer a letdown after playing us? Nothing scientific here, but teams seem to make 0 mistakes when playing us then look like a JV team the next week.
Could they look worse?
More legitimately, I'm going to have to INSIST if OSU plays us tough they MUST look like crap in their next game...
"How'd". Whatever works.
Our D can make a lot teams look really good.
Blown coverages, fumbles at the line, lofting crappy passes right to defenders, dropped passes, critical personal fouls etc etc etc
We never ever get those breaks
Sparty missed a few coverages last week and did fumble at the line once. They also had at least one personal foul (on 1st and goal from the 2). We just didn't take advantage.
Do you honestly think Indiana is good and just had a let down against OSU?
Cousins fumbles the 4th and 1 snap to turn it over on downs
I keep thinking the Hass Avacado ads are satire.
Those are really strange commercials. The one with the baseball game is the worst.
Purdue up 14-0 (yeah it's Minnesota). They looked good beating NW away last week too. Do we have any sure wins coming up on our schedule? ugh We need that 6th win.
2 miserable seasons, mounting losses to rivals, lesser foes wielding slingshots, continued, relentless dong shots,badgers, brahs, buckeyes, haweyes all clamoring with speak of the demise of all that is maize and holy.. Well, our young defense reminds me of another lost cause so many years ago. As the battle of Bunker Hill proved to the world that the young, untested American Patriots were a lost cause that surely would give up and slink back to their farms, George Washington would not let the Pariots admit defeat. They pressed on. And today, under dire cicumstances no less important, so shall we press on. We shall press on with a belief. A belief that we will not waiver! A belief that our young Defense will improve! A belief that the greatest University the world has ever known will again strike fear into the souls of all that dare to question her greatness! Perhaps today, as we battle to fight off the doubts in our own minds, the words of Thomas Paine ring as appropiate as they did so many years ago...
"THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their University; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. This adversity, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value."
Today, let us not be denied.
History or English major?
say I'm impressed with Illinois D.
I was too, until that awful missed tackle.
There's the type tackling that MSU got used to last week!
Cousins is limping. He's been hurried more in 1.5 quarters than all of last week.
I think that's Sid from Toy Story.
Illinois has dominated most of this game. Hopefully they can turn that into TDs soon.
Why does Dantonio insist on continually using his QB?? He's exposing him to sure injury!
How will Cousins possibly stay healthy this year??? All that staying in the pocket is sure to wear down on him. I seriously doubt his ability to stay healthy.
I don't even know if I'm being sarcastic.
To be a Big Ten Icon?
Yeah, that's annoying. I didn't like how the "Big Ten's Greatest Seasons: 1969" had a segment on PSU as well. I guess next year we'll see specials on Johnny Rogers and Tommie Frazier?
I wouldn't be surprised to see those Cornhuskers in here before the list is done.
Maybe I just can't admit that Illinois has a good D, but has MSU even faced an average BCS D until now? I think DRob's errors and our truly horrible D made Sparty look WAY better than they are.
Our D makes all offenses look good.
It would be classic Sparty to completely screw up the week after a big game. I think they have 4 personal fouls and almost half the second quarter is still left.
Illinois has been KILLING Sparty on 3rd and longs. Killing them!
There's another one. Scheelhaase is pretty awesome for a frosh.
Watching Illini you can see how SLOW we are D...look at Martez Wilson compared to Ezeh...it's light years apart at their foot speed.
Martin and Mouton have been the only 2 guys who have been for the most part consistent this year.
For as fast as are O is...the D is equally a slow. if you really watch we have been in position to makes plays on D, but we just very slow in general or just dont have the football IQ to make the play quickly.
Also, I like Greg Jones....but man I see why the kid stayed in school, he is a mid 3rd rd at best pick.
They have a couple of athletes, but beyond that, they seem a lot less confused at the snap than we typically do.
Can we stop talking about seepage? It's making me queasy.
Huh huh -- "seepage coming in the pocket"
A family broadcast?
Keep that up and the FCC will come calling... lol
Sparty's going to get a late hit/hitting a defenseless player soon. They consistently fly in late and after the player is on the ground.
Worthy is turning into the beast that Mike Martin is turning into this year as well
That could be a big injury there for MSU
Ark St. up 7-6 over IU and has a 2nd a goal from the IU 4.
make that a TD?
EDIT: no TD but 3rd and goal from the 1
We could trade our D for Ark St.'s and upgrade.
I pray it's more of them missing Willis and that the back up RB can't pass block or catch than the Ark St. D.
Maybe Brian should compare our defensive two-deep with Arkansas State's.
Pretty soon Purdue will be up enough to start going for two against the gophers!
That was some pretty sweet scrambling.
Ark St. up 14-6 over IU. 2min left in 1st half.
Is kinda hot.
Purdue's kicker just had the worst looking field goal attempt for one that wasn't tipped.
Sparty NOOOO! Hahaha
This game is making me all giggly.
It went right that time.
Why is Minnesota wearing white helmets? They look like crash test dummies.
Where was this Sparty team last week? Were they threatened with jail time if they lost to us??
For beating us; if last weekend was any indication...
They were given immunity from jail for the weekend, so they weren't as on edge. It's tough to play smart with the spectre of incarceration hanging over your head.
What is Illinois's strategy here? They are losing a ton of time
Hope they have a defibrillator up in the coaches box with the way Sparty is playing.
With one timeout?
by Sparty? This is some embarrassing coaching going on.
We never get those kind of critical breaks.
Annnnnnnnnnd..... Zook plays for the FG
looks like a clock issue will come up
Les Miles style clock management at the end of the half.
Watching Ark St. and Illinois really drives home the point of how much work M's D needs.
Zook has been pretty successful against us.
and they haven't been good against us due to Zook's coaching...at all.
He couldn't beat us with Rose Bowl teams or even Florida.
He's a bad coach. The fact that we've lost to them two years running reflects more on us than anything.
Awful time management from Zook. 35 seconds left and you get one play off before a FG attempt? Pathetic.
They have that time out for halftime.
My God, if we lose to Zook 3 years in a row....
Ron Zook should be fired at halftime.
Before he's fired...?
could be a B10 contender THIS YEAR...
...if their coach wasn't a goddamn idiot
That, and if their offense wasn't terrible. MSU is gifting Illinois most of their yardage with stupid penalties.
Zook just plan blows as a game coach. RR might've lost a bit of time at the end of the 1st half last week, but at least he threw that pass and made the TD an option. But with one TO Zook plays for the FG. Sweet Holy Moses does he suck.
With that play call he would have been better off just having Scheelhaase take a knee and center the ball for the field goal.
Call the Denard play - QB iso to the center of the field, get an accidental TD.
To be fair, FGs aren't an option for RR :)
Just noticed DirecTV is going to be showing the Slippery Rock game later today. I may need to record it to see what they are all about.
I was tempted.
But it means we'll get live scores at the game.
Sparty has 9, yes NINE, rushing yards at halftime.
77 yds and 3 pts at half for sparty. My God, our defense sucks.
What's noteworthy is that Illinois has a new defensive coordinator. We've been told that changing coordinators screws up your program stability. That doesn't seem to be a problem for them in the least.
Slightly more noteworthy: they have upperclassmen.
Are you suggesting that it's only possible to change coordinators when your defense has a certain percentage of upperclassmen?
The half-baked defenses of GERG are getting tiresome. Do you really believe that with one more year of coaching our guys, we're going to see radical improvement? This is a man who has fielded five consecutive atrocious defenses ('06'-'08 at SU, '09-'10 at UM). At some point you call a spade a spade.
It's not a defense of Robinson, it's just a statement that I don't think Bo Pelini (or whoever, I like Pelini) could make our defense good. We don't have the players.
ESPN saying their are rumors Brewster is done if Purdue wins today. Anyone hear anything about this?
Dr. Saturday had something yesterday:
3-0? MSU hasn't won this game yet.
Why hasn't Illinois thrown at Sparty's freshman corner?? Dam Zook.
Slippery rock has only lost one game this year AFAIK.
wait... Brian should do a 2 deep comparison of our D to Slippery Rock!
LOL Minnesota. Just lol.
Scheelhaase is handing off to the RB on every zone read. Looks like MSU is always going for the running back just like the did with Denard.
says the BTN announcer when the MSU player is at the 30 and has 2 Illini players near him.
Someone needs to tell MSU that play action isn't working at all.
It's good that MSU is being stifled by Illini 6-3. Hopefully the Illini do not stifle Michigan as well when they play later this season. But right now, we are all Illini fans ;)
GO FIGHT WIN RETAIN EMPLOYMENT
Glenn Mason is smiling.
You're right. Minny didn't know what they had with Mason. I said it the day they fired him.
to not know what the fuck a reverse is. Announcing pet peeve #1.
A breakdown in coverage there by Illinois.
They keep talking about how Cousins is amazing at the play action. I haven't seen it...
Nevermind. Penalty lol
Fumble recovery by MSU. Illinois reciever just had to fall on the ball but tried scooping it up
The receiver tried to pick it up and run...awful.
Edit: That's really close, tough call on whether or not he's down.
Land on it, or Knock it the he'll out of bounds!
Do our kickers work with Barwis on leg strength? Why do we seem to be the only team that always kicks it short?
I think 90% of kicking distance comes from technique not raw leg strength, assuming one's leg meets some minimum threshold.
That Illi catch/fumble was a terrible call. His knee was obviously down.
I'm gonna go ahead and blame that on Zook too.
Stop trying to score a TD yourself and fall on the ball for your team.
State offense has looked pitiful so far, what gives? Definitely don't look explosive like last well, although Illinois is much improved this time around.
have you seen Cousins' play fakes? They're awesomeness
Guys, I'm starting to get scared about our game against Purdue.
Remember, Minnesota is BAD! Really bad.
I haven't heard much about Minnesota, but I have never seen them at a good point in my life, so yeah.
That could make you under 5 years old, or under 60, depending on how much "good point" is...
Awesome music during the break Sparty: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUjdiDeJ0xg
Two guys on that play and neither one can see it's OB
Between Zook, the officials, and Chris Martin this game features a stunning amount of incompetence.
3 trips, net 2 yds and one FG...maybe 2 FG now
The MSU net-raisers cannot figure out how to put up the field goal net.
That's worrisome. However, home teams are doing ok. That's good. (Indiana was an underdog to Ark St., right? ;-). )
Illinois is in full implode mode now
They are in the Zook Zone now; or fully Zooked.
It's that good. But I don't know that the Zook era will last long enough to be worth your while.
A run on 3rd and goal from the 10? There has been some terrible coaching in this game.
is good from about 48 + yds out. Inside of that, they seem to be content with the FG's. Their red zone production in four trips has been, un, abysmal. However, they do have a FG kicker that kicks the ball through the uprights, so they've got that going for them...and with every passing week, w/ no tOSU, Dantonio man love increases
I will most likely kill myself if MSU goes to the Rose Bowl. I mean, I have wished for them to lose EVERY week now, and nothing gives.....
Who is MSU's best player? Ron Zook or Nathan Scheelhaase?
One meme dead: "Illinois is really good, we swear!"
One meme lives: "MSU's D is UNBELIEVABLE! Dantonio has instilled such discipline and leadership in this team"
They'll just overlook those 5 personal fouls as a fluke, not a lack of discipline.
The scary thing is that if Scheelhaase wasn't the worst QB in the Big Ten Illinois could have beaten both OSU and MSU.
Guys, CMU and Miami (OH) are tied right now on channel 7 in Michigan. Will they play over our game if it goes to OT?
I think he earned an honorary degree from the Les Miles school of clock management. They could have easily come away with 7 at the end of the half. Didn't even use his timeout. He reminds me of Skeeter Valentine from the show doug.
Relieve anger and frustration from losing a 2nd straight game by turning CBS on and watching a 51-43 offensive slugfest
Auburn 51 points and there's still about 8 min to go