Meyer has never run a thug program.
chance of bowl: 13.6%
Meyer has never run a thug program.
Urban Meyer is quickly becoming my most hated B1G coach, and with Dantonio and Bielema in the conference, that's not easy to do.
Don't hate Meyer just because he has had some recruiting success. If you want to hate Meyer, hate him for the shameless whining that kept us out of the 06 NCG.
"I have seen the end...none were spared, not even the children."
He could have been 4-0 in the Game, he chose to be 0-4. His loss.
Give himself a chance to flip if Oho does get hit with sanctions.
Urban bought what he was told by Gee and Smith, Urban sold it to Dunn. Major sanctions probably were/are the biggest going in Michigan's favor.
Yah, I thought the same thing. Oh well, good for him. It was obvious that this recruitment was weighing on him. I'm sure he'll sleep a little better now.
The early enrolling thing may have only been a concern if he were coming here (so he could avoid dealing with hostile Buckeye fans from January-June).
It's all good. Next year we'll sign the double fisted fury, two headed train of pain of Isaac/Shallman.
He had to drop EE for academic reasons per Sam Webb, nothing more
I wish so much bad towards him... I hope every carry he gets gets stuffed at the line of scrimmage.
You sound like a Sparty or Bucknut fan.
To be fair, I think hoping that he just doesn't gain many (any?) yards is pretty much in-bounds. I mean, he's toeing the line, but there's no wish for injury, illness, arrest, etc. Personally, I hope that Dunn goes to OSU, enjoys very little success, decides to focus on his first love and becomes a broadway star,* ending his football career with 1.1 ypc. Success in life, failure in football. This is the most I can possibly extend to a Buckeye.
You're giving too much credit to embittered Spartans and Buckeyes here, IME.
*Deep, deep insider shit here, friends.
wait guys... why arent we gonna go rcmb on this!!!!!!! i mean i know he wasnt ever committed to us but still. no "i hope he breaks his cock" or "fuck i hope this fucker dies" too bad... oh wait... we have class...
An interesting demonstration of class you've got there.
Sometimes the heart prevails. I wish him the best. It'll be fun to see him and Dymonte on the field at the same time...btw Dymonte received an offer from Ohio today.
The recruiting battles between Hoke and Meyer are going to epic in the years to come. Kind of disappointed but we'll survive. Good luck getting Dymonte to switch Urb. Kid bleeds maize and blue!
Favorable for what? Urban got a kid that was already commited and two we turned away.
seems like that's what he always wanted in his heart, can't blame him at all for that
OSU has obviously been his dream school from day 1, I get the feeling that he went into his OSU visit looking for a reason to be blown away by Meyer so it would make his decision easier, and he (unsuprisingly) was. I know this is just going to seem like a angry Michigan fan trying to rationalize the news, but I don't think this hurts the class too much, honestly. With Fitz's emergance he would only have gotten a few years, and we have some good options in next year's class already. He is a solid back but not great imo, his highlight film didn't really impress me but that's just the kind of player he is. I wish him the best getting 5 carries per game as a lead blocker for Braxton Miller.
Been saying this for a week, and I'll say it again. Ty Isaac>Bri'onte Dunn. Not sour grapes, just think Isaac is better. I have not seem them in person, but from the clips I have watched, I think Isaac is more explosive and has better vision. He will also put on more weight once in college, eve n though he is not exactly small.
....we hardly knew ye. Good luck except in a certain Game.
The class already looks pretty good though, I think. They've got this over at Schembechler.
Oh well. At the end of the day, he's the one who's going to have to go up against our defense. He should ask Boom Herron what that's like.
But more room for other recruits that are more of a necessity, right?
It ain't over until the fat lady sings.
refirm is not a word
Oh well...not going to be the first recruit battle we lose to Meyer.
With that said, we still have plenty of guys on the board and we're going to have a PHENOMINAL class!
There. Fixed that for you.
It ain't over until the fat lady sings. Unless he early enrolls at Ohio, Dunn has until signing day to change his mind. The NCAA could announce some sanctions before then that change his mind.
Sam Webb always said his heart was with the buckeyes, if a guy grows up bleeding scarlet and grey and gets a chance to play for them, you really can't begrudge it. That said I really hope he develops horrible fumble-itis whenever he plays us.
Well this sucks. Washington, Pittman, Schutt, and now Dunn. Urban's cleaning up.
It's weird how recruiting seemed to be going so much better for Hoke before we went 10-2 and got a BCS bowl. I mean, since September we've picked up Darboh and Drake Johnson and lost Pharaoh Brown and Anthony Standifer.
Isn't that a wash? 2 for 2? Just depends on which position you value more highly, and we're in on some good replacements for the guys that left.
Not saying that he won't be good, but it's not like puling in Drake Johnson was some great recruiting accomplishment considering that his only other offer was from Eastern Michigan. And I don't know, in the last week Payton, Diggs, Dunn, McNamara and some other guys have all fallen off the board.
Payton is still not off the baord yet. Diggs didnt show up for our visit. Dunn always liked Ohio. McNamara-we didnt show any interest until he took his final visit. not time to work him. I dont really care who Urban gets this year. I am just sick and tired of the media glowing over his recruiting this year. I think hoke has done a better job so far. Urban will always have his name and his rings.
As far as that goes, Hoke was putting together an elite class back before he ever won a game, when people questioned his ability to do so. amd when our defense was a trainwreck. Meyer has the advantage of riding in on a white horse and portraying himself as the savior of a program that's been on top for a long time. What he's accomplishing is nothing compared to what Hoke has done for us.
Best class in my memory and you're crapping the bed because some prospects fell off the board. Dammit...get you some of these:
How is any of this flamebait? Is there some less offensive way for me to state that not many guys have committed to Michigan since September and this seems a little bit odd given the incredible season we've had?
I dont think its flamebait, but you should re-think things. Coach Hoke has done a great job so far. There is no reason to get down. Since the season started, we didnt have many spots left. Not sure what you want. We missed out all an Ohio commit, good for Urban. We will see come Nov next year.
Diggs and McNamara weren't even on the board before the season, though, and I don't remember whether Payton was, either. It's hard to call those losses.
More generally, very few recruits commit during the season, since they're busy with their own high school seasons. In addition to that, we had filled all but a few spots before September, so decommitments were just as likely as commitments no matter how the season went. Lastly, at this point, most kids are waiting for the all star games or Signing Day, which is just the way it is. Sure, there's stuff happening in Columbus, but that's because they signed a new, big name coach. No need to worry.
Washington loved Ohio, so did Pittman. Schutt really had no where else to go, once ND wasnt his choice. Dunn grew up loving Ohio. What is urban cleaning up. He was always going to recruit well. We will see how he does next year.
I'm sure that he'll do well next year. So will we. Assuming that OSU doesn't get bombed by sanctions (and maybe even if they do), they're going to be good for awhile. I think that's a good thing. Sure, when Michigan's down, I'd like to see OSU down, too, so that we can win some of those games. When we're strong, though - and I think we're going to be strong for some time - there won't be anything more fun than Michigan-OSU week when both programs are powerhouses with a shot at the Rose Bowl / national title.
Washington, Pittman, and Dunn would have been committed to Ohio long ago. Schutt would have stayed at PSU. This is a predictable return to the mean, given no one believes there will be any sanctions.
I'm really not particularly a fan of a return to the mean, given that it involved Michigan losing to Ohio most of the time.
Still, Urban hasn't yet taken any Michigan targets except for Dunn, who was already committed, so we'll have to wait and see.
Ohio wouldn't begin pulling recruits again. It's disappointing that the scandal of lies and tats lasted only one year, while our stretchgate seemed to extend forever. But it's over. Ohio was always going to get a good coach, assuming no sanctions, and they're always going to pull kids. Just like Michigan.
1990's: Michigan 7-2-1 vs. Ohio
2000-2011: Michigan 3-8 vs. Ohio
Total time period 1990 to present: 10-10-1. This is the mean.
Excuse my shitty memory but when did we lose standifer?
Better check the boards a little more often....