Draymond Green showing some love to UofM Hoops
Some classy statements from our rival and former recruit of Michigan....I really hope we can take them down this year and put the columnists comments Michigan not going to be a threat to Green and the spartans until he graduates to rest. Still good to see him showing us some love and cheering us on in our efforts to help bring home the BigTen/ACC challenge for the second year in a row.
December 8th, 2010 at 12:06 AM ^
seems like a good kid and is it just me or is he in wayyyyy better shape than when he got to state ?
December 8th, 2010 at 12:10 AM ^
I'd go as far as saying he even looks in better shape than he did last year. Hes very versatile player that fills the stat sheets up. Too bad he didn't end up here, we def. could of used a player of his caliber
December 8th, 2010 at 6:09 AM ^
He doesn't shoot 3s...ya know EVERYONE MUST shoot 3s in order to play U-M BBall. Even when they are NOT falling, you just keep shooting...having a post presence is non-existent in Beilien "system". What a joke! He is waaaay past his shelf life here.
December 8th, 2010 at 6:52 AM ^
December 8th, 2010 at 6:12 PM ^
is so nice, you should inquire about one.
December 8th, 2010 at 7:29 AM ^
@sasmjjsly
If you go ahead and watch the UConn game highlights you will see that Draymond Green not only shoots threes, he makes them....Don't post something if you have no idea what you are talking about.
December 8th, 2010 at 6:09 PM ^
First of all, Draymond Green's job on the team is to NOT shoot 3s; his job is to be a post presence, shoot the turnaround jumper, have a mid-range shot and...REBOUND. All of this is expected of all MSU big men for the last 12 years with much success. Name a college bball national champion in the last 20 years where this was not the case. And as long as Beilien is here, we won't have one either. Please do not reference the ocassional 3 Green takes in a game. Surely, these are NOT by design (check Izzo's comments today about being a "pretty boy" team "shooting jumpers" instead of being "gritty"). Just go back and look at the ill-advised 3 he took with less than 5 minutes to go (all Izzo could do was put his head in his hands). Therefore, you need to know what you are talking about. Beilien offense is predicated on shooting 3s---period. If they are not falling, there is nothing else to do but keep shooting them. There is NO post presence, No real designed half-court game that utilizes the mid-range shot, or attacking the basket. Plus the talent on the team is not Big Ten caliber. And won't be until the system changes or the coach changes. If you don't believe me, just sir back and enjoy the joke that U-M bball.
December 8th, 2010 at 11:11 AM ^
It would be nice if your post presence was nonexistent
December 8th, 2010 at 6:11 PM ^
Likewise my friend.
December 8th, 2010 at 12:35 AM ^
They mentioned during one of the previous games that he lost 15 pounds over the off season. Certainly looks much more athletic than last year, and no gut. Hell of a player.
December 8th, 2010 at 11:23 AM ^
What a shame, I have had hopes for one day consuming my own cheeseburger milkshakes on my path to better health when I read about it on MGoBlog when Barwis started. Like many things, just never had time to get to the gym and try it out.
December 8th, 2010 at 12:10 AM ^
Although I prefer persons wearing green to keep their lips off my program.
December 8th, 2010 at 12:11 AM ^
hahah I like it...no complaints here
December 8th, 2010 at 12:12 AM ^
Puts some perspective on some of the old crotchety fans that a lot of schools have. These are just kids, they don't have a blind hate toward each other. Just because they don't necessarily like their rivals, they still show respect for them. What a class act.
December 8th, 2010 at 12:13 AM ^
While I despise MSU's success, their basketball program is the way one should be run. Izzo is a role model coach and he doesn't tolerate poor behavior (unlike his football counterpart) from his players.
December 8th, 2010 at 12:25 AM ^
He was VERY quiet about a few things, when even if no wrong could be proved, a clear message should have been sent, IMO.
December 8th, 2010 at 12:29 AM ^
like what?
December 8th, 2010 at 12:33 AM ^
Probably about Chris Allen and the altercations that arose from the rumors (and most likely true according to most sources) that he was sleeping with Summers girlfriend
December 8th, 2010 at 12:35 AM ^
I think he's talking about the double-team rape allegations from earlier this year, which were promptly swept under the rug.
December 8th, 2010 at 12:35 AM ^
O yea and that too hahaha
December 8th, 2010 at 12:45 AM ^
O yea and that too hahahaI'm gonna try not to be a huge dick here, but really there is absolutely nothing funny about this incident.
December 8th, 2010 at 12:47 AM ^
agreed. this post is about showing respect for your competition and not trying to laugh or cheer every time they get into a bad situation. show some class.
December 8th, 2010 at 12:49 AM ^
yea ur right wasn't necessarily laughing at the content of the situation, just that I completely missed the point of what Izzo had let slide, since I thought it was something else. I was more less laughing at myself but I could see how you took it differently
December 8th, 2010 at 12:59 AM ^
Thank you for your clarification.
December 8th, 2010 at 1:16 AM ^
Yea no problem, sorry for the confusion and coming off as a dick and classless...def not my intentions
December 8th, 2010 at 12:40 AM ^
yikes. did a google search on it. it's terrible, but what can you do as a coach about it? sticky situation.
regardless, i've always had a lot of respect for Izzo.
December 8th, 2010 at 8:16 AM ^
His son lives in the dorm and mentioned that there was much "sweeper" work going on to concile the details. We both agreed the true story would never be reported by the Detroit media.
December 8th, 2010 at 2:17 AM ^
Izzo is a role model coach and he doesn't tolerate poor behavior (unlike his football counterpart) from his players.
Until the coverup of the "alleged sexual assault" in which two MSU basketball players allegedly took a girl to their room, and one watched while the other allegedly assaulted her, I may have agreed some. However, since the player who didn't allegedly participate gave an account which agreed with that of the victim, I am very shocked that any coach would allow the player to stay on his team.
It has long been my contention that Dantonio's enabling of a criminal subculture within his team would eventually "spill over" into other teams within the MSU athletic department. Apparently, it has not only affected part of the basketball team, but also the head basketball coach.
In addition, I think Izzo handled his dalliance with the Cavs terribly, and I think their early season "troubles" on the court may be an indication that the players are starting to "tune him out" a little. If being a "role model" includes coldly playing two teams against each other to maximize his financial situation, then I guess he is a great role model.
Since Izzo's main strength over the years has been his ability to wring every ounce of effort out of his players that they could possibly give, even a ten percent "tune out" would be enough to turn many of their close victories into defeats, and their final four appearances into "two-and-outs." Let's see how much the media percieves Izzo as a "role model" after a few mediocre seasons and another "incident" or two from his players.
The only question I have about Izzo's "role model" status is "how many other cover-ups have there been during his reign?" The answer could be zero or it could be a fairly large number. But the question does deserve to be asked.
December 8th, 2010 at 11:15 AM ^
But I guess the powers that be will keep signing my pay check until Jack and Jane K. Viewer start to go for the remote so they can get back to commentators who don't "frighten children", who don't "eat their own dandruff", who don't "pop their whiteheads with a compass they used in high school".
December 8th, 2010 at 10:55 AM ^
How did he handle the Cavs job terribly? If I had a once in a lifetime opportunity to leave a university where I am treated like a king in order to possibly coach a once in a generation NBA player, I'd probably want to take some time and think about it too.
If you don't follow the team much, I can tell you that MSU has an awful track record vs. Top 15 teams in November in December. It's not just this season that the team has "struggles". I can't even remember the last time they won their game in the Big10/ACC Challenge. They even lost to UNC last year, when UNC lost to just about everybody.
You are painting Tom Izzo with this broad brush as being somebody who lets the inmates run the asylum and that is not the case. He KICKED Chris Allen OFF THE TEAM for violating team rules (with regards to Summers' girlfriend). It wasn't a "transfer", he was booted. I was at the game last night....I sure would have loved to see Allen in an MSU uniform against that 2-3 Zone, he was our best perimeter threat.
Regarding the sexual assualt allegations, you hate to hear these types of stories, sports related or not. The coach gets put into a tough situation because he has to go off heresay to make a decision. I don't know the situation personally so I will not comment on it, but if I'm a coach I would certainly need more than heresay and allegations to take action against a player on my team.
December 8th, 2010 at 12:18 PM ^
Two things:
- Izzo waiting until the offseason to kick Allen off the team (after a Final Four run) for "violating team rules" that, to my understanding, occurred early to mid-season isn't exactly ruling with an iron fist.
- Regarding the sexual assalt allegations, why would Tom Izzo have to go off heresay? Unless, he doesn't trust his players to tell him the truth about the situation, or, his players don't have enough respect for him to tell him the truth.
#1 reminds me a little of Dantonio after the "beat down" canning the kids on the bench and bringing back the kids who see playing time.
December 8th, 2010 at 1:12 PM ^
1) The Chris Allen incident happened in March, not early or mid-season. He didn't come with the team on their last 2 road games of the year. He was also suspended for the first game of the Big10 Tournament. At the time the details were not unraveled, and there are some who say that he was suspended for getting into a fight with Durrell Summers.
2) I don't know the situation. Maybe some of the players have come to him, maybe they haven't. I don't have enough knowledge to form an opinion of it. My initial comment was a general comment regarding coaches being put in the situation where they may not have all the information. That's all.
December 8th, 2010 at 12:51 AM ^
but i still am shocked, like really shocked
December 8th, 2010 at 2:00 AM ^
+1 for Wee-Bey
December 8th, 2010 at 8:03 AM ^
Green seems like not only a good player but a good guy. Even as a freshman in a loaded program, he was a leader over there. His comments show that you can be a competitor without being a jerk.
December 8th, 2010 at 9:28 AM ^
I like Green a lot.
Liked Izzo a lot too, until I read this thread. I'm sure that every program has skeletons, but once you know about them it's never the same. I think it's like going to a restaurant and actually seeing the food prepared in a kitchen that isn't as clean as you thought.
December 8th, 2010 at 10:34 AM ^
Green is a good guy.....he posts some funny stuff on twitter too. Also, if you think Green has gotten into shape, take a look at Derrick Nix this year.....he's still got some ways to go but one offseason made a world of a difference.
December 8th, 2010 at 12:19 PM ^
Just read an article from the freep or detnews and it said that he has gained a lot of that weight back lately.
December 8th, 2010 at 10:52 AM ^
Was bummed when MSU offered him - thought UM might end up with him. I also love the dude's game. He's got solid range for his size (even swapped 3 balls with Kemba Walker during the Uconn game a few times), and is very athletic.
December 8th, 2010 at 11:29 AM ^
To post comments like he did shows he's a class kid who was raised right. I respect MSU hoops, and now I can quietly pull for Green to play well (when not playing us) and not feel bad about it. He's the kind of player every program needs, a sixth man type who doesn't bitch about coming off the bench and can do whatever his team needs when it is needed, and he provides leadership.
That being said, he still wears that damn green and white...