Draymond Green went down with a non contact knee injury in the Illinois game tonight. I am no doctor but it looked like and LCL injury. This is a big blow to MSU if the injury is serious. They are not the same team without him.
Draymond Green Injured
I think the mods deleted your other thread, but kept this one.
Tried again. These mods are quick.
I think you are underestimating the sneakiness...
He was having a HORRIBLE game with the flu or whatever. He falls down and the next thing you know you see him hopping all around the arena on his own? If he is seriously hurt the state training staff sure didn't care too much.
Sensitive buttons, sounds like a bad problem!
It looked pretty bad. He couldn't put any weight on it at all throughout the entire time he was on the bench.
As much as I dislike Draymond, you never want to see a kid get injured. And, I wanted MSU at full strength next week do there were no excuses when we extend the streak.
Take it easy, Charlie Sheen. It's a Sparty move to cheer injuries to opposting teams' players.
his avatar is consistent with his assessment. I mean, a Sith Lord pretty much embodies win at all cost.
It's always sad to hear of a student getting injured, even when it's a rival athlete.
Green is a great guy, hard worker and terrific representative for that school. Also, I don't want Michigan to beat them for the fourth straight time when they are at half strength. But yes, their team is pretty much awful without him.
an awful home team will beat an awful shooting away team anyday. today MSU-Illi just showed that. So i don;t really care if all they played were their bench players as long as we win, but if we lost that would be more embarrassing
But, I'd rather beat them when they're at half strength than lose to them. Yes, State fans would definitely be annoying, and complain about how we beat them, but a win is a win is a win is a win, and injuries are a naturally occuring part of sports.
Don't think you'd find too many State fans complaining about how the death penalty we incurred in the 90's handed them and Izzo the in-state dominance for over a decade. Green's a good kid, but end of day, as a fan you have to accept any type of chaos that might help your team get ahead.
Same goes for all these people saying they're happy Ohio has Urban Meyer now because that way "we can beat them when they're good." That's crap. Michigan hoops and Michigan football haven't won a BiG in a while. We need to get off our high horse and just be happy at any opportunity we have to compete and beat our rivals at recruiting or on the court/field.
Hope Green gets better fast, he's a great kid, but I'll be happy if he's not in the line up come Sunday.
Can you imagine the excuses? That win doesn't matter because we didn't have Draymond. We're still a better team.
Haha already making excuses when the game hasn't even been played yet? Sparty troll fail.
You're an idiot. Your best player averages 7 points a game against michigan. The michigan football team has had significant injuries the last couple years, so if you take back a Sparty football win then we won't count this upcoming bball win. Deal?
did you just argue with yourself on a blog? that's a first.
I think its YOU who is the idiot. Read that post again.
Good teams have enough talent and depth that they don't need to use an injury to excuse a loss.
He wasn't making excuses, he's saying that MSU fans will.
The guy got banned. Now my previous two posts make no sense.
...and your posts still don't make sense. The guy was indicating the excuses Sparty would make. It wasn't his voice. Reading is fundamental. Flaming is easy but best used in small doses.
Are you serious? TheMaizeIsStrong (banned guy and sparty troll) replied to ThadMattasgoblin saying some b.s about TMG being a retard, which is when I replied with my first post. Then he replied to me saying that having your best player out is a legitimate excuse for a loss. Which I replied to saying whatever I said above.
way funnier before you explained that.
Meh. We've had a few games over the past years without key players (ie Jamal Crawford being declared ineligible just hours before tip off) and it never gave us a legitimate excuse. It never stopped MSU from bragging either.
I used Crawford as one example because it sticks out in my mind. There was another game that Manny or LaVell missed IIRC
Crawford didn't "do" anything either. It was NCAA applying penalties inconsistently. They effectively ended his ameteur status over something other athletes have done since.
we have not played the game yet. Let's win before making assumptions. A win is a win cause we did not cause the injury, but a lost vs them would be embarrassing. But i do thing Green will make sure he is ready for the Michigan game cause he promised a win and his last game against Michigan.
Yeah that should convince his mcl to reattach to his knee
I don't like this thread, because all the Sparty trolls that frequent these parts will run, cry and exaggerate to make it seem like we are happy about it. I think a better post title would be "MSU loses to Illini on the road" and maybe a note in the actual post about the injury. It just looks and sounds better.
I know we shouldn't alter how we do things because others are immature and stupid, but I think in this case it's just the right thing to do.
The OP presents facts and an opinion about the impact of an injury. But, I don't see how the OP (or the vast majority of responses for that matter) could be classified as even coming close to celebrating an injury.
No one is celebrating.
Terrible thing to happen to a kid, much less a Senior. Quick recovery Draymond.
I hate the Spartan Draymond, but the person Draymond seems pretty solid. Nevertheless, never want to see this happen to anyone
I never want to see anyone injured. Excuses or not. We've already beat them with him in the lineup three straight times. Obviously once with this current roster.
Not any more, he isn't.
you may want to at least raise up your points level so it is not so blatantly obvious.
He actually had like 90 points less than 2 hours ago, I kid you not. Fastest I've ever seen points evaporate.
Even your username is Sparty-rific...
You can never say it's 'good' for a player to get hurt, even if it is somebody from the likes of MSU. Although I can all but guarantee their RCMB or whatever blogs they use would be blowing up with joyous comments if say, Trey Burke suffered an injury.
I will say that I'm not going to shed too many tears for the RCMB right now after their plan to cyberstalk our players.
Yeah I heard on the radio. Wasn't sure how bad it was. I hope he can play Sunday. Never want to see a guy get hurt.
It was pretty bad. There was probably around 14 minutes left in the 2nd half and he took a step back to keep with his man when his knee kind of locked and then he went down. There wasn't any contact which makes you worry a bit more about it. He couldn't put any weight on it and he was attempting to put weight on it the remainder of the game (they kept panning to him on the bench) and he could never do it.
In games against us he's averaged 7 points (last three contests). Don't want him injured. He has not been the same player against Michigan.
Feel bad for Green - hopefully not a signficant injury. He'll only have a senior season once, and you hate to see it ended prematurely because of injury.
"He'll only have a senior season once"
Robbie Hummell begs to differ.
Wasnt Hummel playing for Purdue in Big Dog's last year????
"I am no doctor but it looked like and LCL injury."
Doesn't look like an LCL injury in my opinion. Method of injury doesn't really fit. Even if it was though, probably not a full tear and wouldn't cost him his season by any means.
I actually love the kid as a player. Hopefully its not as bad as it seems.
He is great to watch. Can't stand the team, enjoy the player.
I have tremendous respect for Draymond. Do I feel bad for him? Yes I do. Do I feel bad for Tom Izzo and the Spartan hoops team? Not one bit.
i see wydt.
Unlike the Izzone, I don't wish injuries on anybody. If Green is out for a while or the rest of the season, that's obviously a serious blow for Sparty. I don't feel sorry for them but I feel sorry for him. Hopefully he'll be alright.
As for our game at Breslin, if Green is out, that's still a dangerous game because we play like crap on the road. Iowa, the crapiest of crap teams destroyed us at their place. Green or no Green, that's going to be a tough game.
However, if by some chance we DO win that game, I could care less if Spartan nation starts with the excuses of not having Green so the game doesn't count, yadda, yadda, yadda. After all those years of going through Brian Ellerbe and partly Tommy Amaker, just the fact that we're at the point now where MSU basketball fans are saying, "We would have beaten you if ____________." that's pretty cool.
If Spartan fans can pound their chests over beating 3 of the worst Michigan football teams in school history, I don't have to feel ashamed in beating a MSU basketball squad without Green. Plain and simple.
But again, that's a big if. There are no guarantees playing on the road.
He twisted it. Looked painful when it happened.
If Day-day is out, who probably pick up his minutes?
We really play positions by committee. He didn't play most of the game tonight so you saw more of a combination of Nix, Payne, Gauna, Dawson in there filling up the C and PF positions. Since we last played UM last, Dawson has stepped up his game big time (both against Purdue and tonight). Even though he starts at 3, he can also play the 4. I would expect him to be in the game a bit more if Green can't go.
there you have it folks, spartys excuse for losing to us on sunday
for the Robbie Hummel taunting......
That's exactly why the only thing we should be saying is "That sucks, I hope he gets better soon."
I hope he does get better and only misses one game.
Hate to see any kid get injured. Get well Draymond.
I don't think Green said anything out of line to the media. Yeah, he guaranteed victory. What's wrong with that? That just added a little spice to the rematch.
I'd like us to beat State at their best, especially at the Breslin. But man, even with Green in there tonight that game was painful to watch. Strug-a-ling would be an understatement for both teams, even by Joe Namath's standards.
It's unfortunate to see a college career end that way, especially for someone who genuinely cares about college ball rather than seeing it as a necessary evil on the way to getting paid.
But only a few degrees less unfortunate is that we won't have the pleasure of watching a cocky hater like Green walk off the Breslin floor disappointed yet again. I'd rather see him disappointed by losing than by not even getting to play.
Do we know it's a season-ending injury? I just saw the replay of him struggling off the court and it certainly looked bad, but young adult bodies can be surprisingly resilient.
If a knee and the letters "CL" are involved like people are saying, I usually assume the rehab is measured in months instead of weeks.
I hope Day Day can summon the spirit of Mateen Cleaves by time for the Michigan game.
As much as he'd like to play in his last Michigan game, State has longer-term goals, and Izzo isn't an idiot. If he's hobbling like Mateen, it'd be smarter to sit him for a while and let it heal.
It was kind of strange seeing Green lay on the floor in pain and how long it took someone from the Spartan bench to go over and assist him, then it was just one assistant attending Green, who then hopped of on one leg.
It was really bizzare. It was almost like they were in denial of how serious the situation was.
They just showed him using crutches to get to the bus or wherever he was going, with just his parents and I felt really bad for him and his family. Puts things in perspective. Speedy recovery Mr. Green.
Get well soon Draymond. You've been a respectful rival.
I always want the best team playing against us. It eliminates excuses when we win as is a true indicator of how good our team is.
Not with Sparty it doesn't. They will never be convinced we have a better basketball team, not even if we win 12 in a row, so they will always be the fanbase of 1,000 excuses. If it's not missing Green, it'll be the refs, God, bad luck, the refs, distractions, fatigue, the refs, the announcers, anything at all to avoid admitting we even have a good basketball team, let alone a better one.
That is basically a complete reversal of the annual football argument with their fans. Funny how the same pattern repeats itself for both respective positions in different sports.
True, there's absolutely a little reversal of fortune thing going on, but I think there are two major differences:
- we didn't try and claim we still had a better team in years like 2008
- we can see the irony when Hollis and Green talk about how they've been better for longer in basketball
This is why we're Michigan and they aren't. They cheered the Denard injury earlier in the year.
Has been a great player and leader for them... If he cannot play it is a big blow. As a fan of collegiate
sports I don't wish injury on any of these kids. Blue or Green...
On an unrelated note, there is some really delicious spartyfreude flowing out there...
For those of you who enjoy that kind of thing, I give you...
and a blast from the past
With that said, I hope Green plays on Sunday. 4 in a row would be a little empty without watching his spirit break before my eyes as he finished his career getting swept by Michigan.
Watching Lucas and Summers walk off the court was pretty sweet. I could do with more of that.
You will have plenty of time to watch his spirit break when McGary leads us to 6 in a row next year.
Screw you Spartans.
like to beat them at full strength, I'll happily take a win regardless of the situation
I have been labeled a sparty "hater" (which is untrue), I will say this.
I hope his injury is not serious. I would not wish injury on any player. I feel bad (yes I am sincere) for all the MSU fans who are heart broke. They must be feeling a bit of dispair today. This is a huge loss for them and I share their pain.
I remember when Jimmy had his arm broke trying to recover a fumble back in 1984. It was terrible although we recovered from it. I offer my well wishes to Mr Green for a speedy recovery and I offer a shot of Scotch to all the MSU fans to ease the pain.