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Per Draft Express, Morris to stay in draft

Darius is keeping his name in, according to UMHoops/via some dude I've never heard of.

http://www.umhoops.com/2011/05/03/report-darius-morris-will-stay-in-nba-...

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:12 PM | i will wait (Score:1 Normal)
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i will wait until i hear it directly from d-mo

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:18 PM | well (Score:-1 Redundant)
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UMHoops seems to agree with DraftExpress:

 

http://www.umhoops.com/2011/05/03/report-darius-morris-will-stay-in-nba-draft/

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:19 PM | That's the same link as in (Score:-1 Redundant)
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That's the same link as in the OP.

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:23 PM | yea Dylan (Score:1)
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posted the link on his website

Phil Brabbs FTW

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:25 PM | Not really (Score:1 Insightful)
Michigan4Life
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just a further confirmation that Morris is gone.

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:38 PM | The same confirmation. (Score:0 Flamebait)
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The same confirmation.

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:15 PM | Trey Burke, come on down! (Score:1 Normal)
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Trey Burke, come on down!

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:15 PM | Angry Michigan (Score:2 Normal)
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Everything Hating God.  

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:16 PM | Oh Jesus (Score:1)
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Oh Jesus

I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:16 PM | Didn't our hearts know he was (Score:2)
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Didn't our hearts know he was gone, but our head didn't want to believe it....best of luck to him in the draft.

If he goes in the second round he will be a steal for someone.  There are a lot of players in the NBA who need to work on going to their left and their jump shot but if you aren't bothered by school, classes, etc. then it becomes infinitely easier to work on those things.  The two things he has are height and a natural gift to find open shooters.  I think he may actually do alright in the NBA - the comparisons to Andre Miller are pretty dead on and Andre had a good career in the NBA.

Unfortunately one of my best friends works for the NBA in operations and finance, and he said the likelihood of a season next year is very minimal.  This is what I worry about for him as he is going to be in limbo and stuck watching his team play without him.

I also feel badly for Jordan Morgan who is going to decline in production significantly without Darius around. 

But for Darius - I'm happy he is realizing a dream. 

 

 

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:19 PM | For Morris sake (Score:1 Normal)
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if he doesn't get drafted in 1st round, he should be praying to go undrafted.

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:31 PM | why? (Score:1)
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why?

"It would be a travesty, it would be ridiculous to all of a sudden come back and get the feeling back, get the health back, feel good again and then all of a sudden go throw some other colors on my shirt and go coach."

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:34 PM | They make the same amount of (Score:3 Normal)
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They make the same amount of money but he has way more flexibility in choosing a team that would actually keep him around (like Harris). Unless Morris totally blows it this weekend, there's no way he'll go undrafted.

Maize n Brew

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:38 PM | If you get drafted in 2nd round (Score:1)
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you're stuck with a team who drafted you that may not be a good fit for yourself and the contract aren't guaranteed.  UDFA gets to choose teams and would have the same contract as the 2nd round pick.  Huge advantage to be a UDFA as opposed to 2nd round pick.  This is why I was happy that Manny Harris went undrafted because he picked the best possible situation and made the team.  Now, he's the future for the Cavs.

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May 4th, 2011 at 1:00 AM | It has advantages (Score:1 Flamebait)
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But not as big as you'd think. A team at least has some motivation for a 2nd round pick to stick around and work out, because they invested a pick on him. There's no motivation to keep an undrafted guy around unless he's helping the team immediately. So it's kinda a wash.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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May 4th, 2011 at 11:22 AM | That may be true (Score:1)
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but there are just as many 2nd round players getting cut because teams would treat them as UDFA because of non-guaranteed contract.  The team that drafted you may not always be the best fit, roster-wise and playing-style wise.

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:17 PM | Good luck Darius - but fuck (Score:5 Normal)
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Good luck Darius - but fuck

"I hope I can get a bunch of championships - like 15"

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May 3rd, 2011 at 11:20 PM | Exactly Right (Score:1)
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I don't get the feeling this is a good decision for him, based on his draft grade. But he was outstanding for us and didn't do anything crazy or stupid while he was here.

At the same time, this probably hurts Michigan ball in a big way. Who is in this kid's ear?

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May 4th, 2011 at 11:38 AM | wow (Score:2)
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totally thought you were calling morris a butt fuck on first read...

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:18 PM | I also really like Trey (Score:2)
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I also really like Trey Burke.  He is the kind of point guard (in a two guard set) that makes a Beilein offense really work. 

The question is who will be the sharp shooting big that helps spread the floor?

 

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:26 PM | We don't need a sharpshooting (Score:1)
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We don't need a sharpshooting big. Beilein's offense last year was one of his best with Morgan down low, and he didn't attempt a single three. He's really good at the pick-and-roll, something that wasn't featured until last year.

Maize n Brew

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:28 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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The offense was even better when Smotzryz was shooting well.

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:30 PM | I don't think so, but even (Score:1)
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I don't think so, but even then, the defense was much worse when he was playing the five. With him at the four, the offense was optimal, but he struggled in space against smaller fours and was abused by guys like Davis and Mbakwe.

Maize n Brew

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:20 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:-1 Overrated)
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Exactly why I was worrying when he declared but didnt hire an agent. Everybody told me not to worry and that he will come back, but no. Why would he enter if he was serious at all about coming back?

Fuck

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:21 PM | I hope this is just speculative (Score:1)
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Is this for sure? Has a deadline passed or coming up? I know it came from UMhoops, but there is still some hope right? He hasn't said anything on twitter. Yes, I quickly stalked him.

A Møøse once bit my sister. No realli!

 

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:22 PM | ... (Score:2)
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Dylan just said that the Draft Express tweet was in line with what they've been hearing from everyone else, essentially. I bet he's gone. Talent-light draft this year sets up nicely for him.

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:32 PM | Ugh, thanks guys (Score:2 Funny)
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Remain Calm, ALL IS WELL!

 

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:23 PM | I think the Draft Express guy (Score:2)
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who is reporting it is pretty legit.  

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:21 PM | Stupid (Score:1)
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I hope Trey Burke can step up big next year

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:24 PM | (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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EVERYBODY PANIC

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:28 PM | Well shit... At least we've (Score:2)
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Well shit... At least we've reached the point as a program where our players leave early, I guess. Still, shit.

COYS and lets go Detroit FC!

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:40 PM | Good for recruiting (Score:1)
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JB can point to Morris that he can develop them into a NBA player.  This will be the norm for Michigan program and I'll take that tradeoff because recruiting will improve and JB was often criticized for not able to identify and develop NBA talent.  This will silence critics.

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:30 PM | I hope everything works out (Score:1 Flamebait)
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I hope everything works out all right for Darius because I know it can't go left. Seriously if this is true best of luck to the young man and thanks for an exciting season. I don't think he is ready but with so many others staying this may actually be a smart move despite how it looks on the surface.

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:36 PM | I'm having flashbacks of when (Score:1)
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I'm having flashbacks of when D Warren left :(

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:53 PM | Oh, good. Let's re-open that (Score:5 Normal)
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Oh, good. Let's re-open that wound.

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:36 PM | Obligatory (Score:3 Normal)
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It's all John Navarre's fault.

 

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:37 PM | Good luck to him (Score:2 Normal)
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Good luck to him, but I just dont see him being ready yet to go up against the likes of Derrick Rose, D-Will, Chris Paul, etc. I know the Pistons could sure use him, or maybe his hometown Lakers.

Looks like all of our points are gonna come on 3s next year....

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:38 PM | Everybody was assuming he (Score:2 Normal)
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Everybody was assuming he would be back when Katz said so this morning. I'll believe he's gone when it happens. This is just D-Mo's version of The Process. Except with fewer airplanes.

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:45 PM | Obviously I wish him the best (Score:2)
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Obviously I wish him the best with whatever his decision is and we can't blame him for following his dream.  But the thing that really irritates me is that he specifically said he was returning next year after the Duke game.  If you're not sure about whether or not you want to leave say it, but don't lie.

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May 3rd, 2011 at 11:07 PM | Are you really attacking a (Score:1 Normal)
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Are you really attacking a kid for following what is probably his lifelong dream of playing in the NBA? I don't want him to leave either, but it's his life, not yours. 

It's all John Navarre's fault.

 

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May 3rd, 2011 at 11:10 PM | Just cause he (Score:3 Normal)
Kennyvr1
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Gave his opinion doesn't mean he's attacking him. This is sports.

Oh how I hate ohio state...

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May 3rd, 2011 at 11:24 PM | I agree that there is a (Score:3 Normal)
bronxblue
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I agree that there is a difference between being a "hater" and having an opinion that questions the logic behind this decision.  Like others have stated, I wish Morris the best, but the Euro and D-leagues are littered with guys who were told they were "solid" 1st rounders who never made it.  And after what we saw with Donovan Warren being "at worst" a 3rd-rounder, I'm dubious of anyone's opinion as it relates to the the professional drafts.

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May 3rd, 2011 at 11:09 PM | Well said (Score:-1 Redundant)
Kennyvr1
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Truth.

Oh how I hate ohio state...

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:49 PM | even though i wish he would (Score:1)
anthem_1
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even though i wish he would return, seems like this year was his best chance to make the first round with so many guys staying in school who would have been ahead of him, not to mention the incoming crop of one and dones @ kentucky, louisville, unc and st johns (?).  

can't complain too much - this is what happens when john beilein recruits kids with potential nba skills - there's a chance they will leave before they're ready/we as fans want them to.

i wish him the best - maybe it will show some 2013 and beyond kids - that you can get to the nba by way of michigan again.

by the way - dear michigan <blank> hating god - dude, when are you going to let up?

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:53 PM | If the overall goal is to (Score:2)
UMfan21
Joined: 09/28/2009
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If the overall goal is to simply get drafted and be in the league, then I guess that it makes sense.  I just can't help but feel that barring injury, his stock would only go up this year.  UofM would make significant noise with him, and they would get a lot of good press and he would be in the spotlight. 

Regardless of what he decides, he needs to polish his game.  I think it would be better to polish it a year at UofM, enjoying college, being the big man, etc rather than in the NBA as a rookie, under the pressure of a contract and expectations.

Maybe it's just me.  I just think that the upside of staying outweighs the upside of leaving.  Then again, I loved college and would gladly go back.

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May 3rd, 2011 at 11:12 PM | Another problem (Score:0)
Michigan4Life
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is there are quite a few top prospects like Harrison Barnes staying at school for one more year.  Next year draft is going to be extremely deep with talents.  That will push Morris down even if he improved.

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May 3rd, 2011 at 11:41 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:2)
UMfan21
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That will affect his first contract no doubt, but think in terms of a five year plan...he's going to rush into the league requiring minimum 1-2 years to fill out his game. By that time Barnes and all the guys he rushed to draft ahead of, will be in the league, possibly taking his spot as they will be equally improved



There is a chance he could improve more as an NBA rookie bench player than a star college player, I don't know



Just seems like all of these decisions are based entirely on a short term NBA rookie contract, rather than an actual NBA career.



I believe Marcus Taylor used the same logic.

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May 3rd, 2011 at 10:54 PM | I'm not at all surprised.  I (Score:1)
AlwaysBlue
Joined: 11/23/2008
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I'm not at all surprised.  I think he's more of a system guy than a raw talent.  He might find a perfect home for his game as we've seen it but in the macro I don't see a lot of opportunities for a PG without big time quicks or a perimeter shot.   

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May 3rd, 2011 at 11:39 PM | A "system" guy? (Score:2 Normal)
J_Wall
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I guess I didn't realize Darius was the second coming of Graham Harrell. 

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May 4th, 2011 at 12:14 AM | A perimeter shot is the one (Score:2)
The Denarding
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A perimeter shot is the one thing you can actually practice and develop.  He is also strong enough and big enough to muscle his way into the post which will offset his lack of quickness.

His inability to go left however is a brutal problem and will force him to take a lot of fade aways if he tries to go left.  I also expect significant frustration of on the ball defense making him want to default going right which will play into the defenses hands.

Andre Miller had learned how to go either way before he went pro and specifically used his left to get in the post and hit fades.  Hopefully Darius can do that until he figures out how to maximize his handle.

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