i will wait until i hear it directly from d-mo
Per Draft Express, Morris to stay in draft
UMHoops seems to agree with DraftExpress:
Everything Hating God.
Didn't our hearts know he was gone, but our head didn't want to believe it....best of luck to him in the draft.
If he goes in the second round he will be a steal for someone. There are a lot of players in the NBA who need to work on going to their left and their jump shot but if you aren't bothered by school, classes, etc. then it becomes infinitely easier to work on those things. The two things he has are height and a natural gift to find open shooters. I think he may actually do alright in the NBA - the comparisons to Andre Miller are pretty dead on and Andre had a good career in the NBA.
Unfortunately one of my best friends works for the NBA in operations and finance, and he said the likelihood of a season next year is very minimal. This is what I worry about for him as he is going to be in limbo and stuck watching his team play without him.
I also feel badly for Jordan Morgan who is going to decline in production significantly without Darius around.
But for Darius - I'm happy he is realizing a dream.
if he doesn't get drafted in 1st round, he should be praying to go undrafted.
They make the same amount of money but he has way more flexibility in choosing a team that would actually keep him around (like Harris). Unless Morris totally blows it this weekend, there's no way he'll go undrafted.
you're stuck with a team who drafted you that may not be a good fit for yourself and the contract aren't guaranteed. UDFA gets to choose teams and would have the same contract as the 2nd round pick. Huge advantage to be a UDFA as opposed to 2nd round pick. This is why I was happy that Manny Harris went undrafted because he picked the best possible situation and made the team. Now, he's the future for the Cavs.
But not as big as you'd think. A team at least has some motivation for a 2nd round pick to stick around and work out, because they invested a pick on him. There's no motivation to keep an undrafted guy around unless he's helping the team immediately. So it's kinda a wash.
but there are just as many 2nd round players getting cut because teams would treat them as UDFA because of non-guaranteed contract. The team that drafted you may not always be the best fit, roster-wise and playing-style wise.
Good luck Darius - but fuck
I don't get the feeling this is a good decision for him, based on his draft grade. But he was outstanding for us and didn't do anything crazy or stupid while he was here.
At the same time, this probably hurts Michigan ball in a big way. Who is in this kid's ear?
totally thought you were calling morris a butt fuck on first read...
I also really like Trey Burke. He is the kind of point guard (in a two guard set) that makes a Beilein offense really work.
The question is who will be the sharp shooting big that helps spread the floor?
We don't need a sharpshooting big. Beilein's offense last year was one of his best with Morgan down low, and he didn't attempt a single three. He's really good at the pick-and-roll, something that wasn't featured until last year.
The offense was even better when Smotzryz was shooting well.
I don't think so, but even then, the defense was much worse when he was playing the five. With him at the four, the offense was optimal, but he struggled in space against smaller fours and was abused by guys like Davis and Mbakwe.
Exactly why I was worrying when he declared but didnt hire an agent. Everybody told me not to worry and that he will come back, but no. Why would he enter if he was serious at all about coming back?
Is this for sure? Has a deadline passed or coming up? I know it came from UMhoops, but there is still some hope right? He hasn't said anything on twitter. Yes, I quickly stalked him.
Dylan just said that the Draft Express tweet was in line with what they've been hearing from everyone else, essentially. I bet he's gone. Talent-light draft this year sets up nicely for him.
Remain Calm, ALL IS WELL!
who is reporting it is pretty legit.
I hope Trey Burke can step up big next year
Well shit... At least we've reached the point as a program where our players leave early, I guess. Still, shit.
JB can point to Morris that he can develop them into a NBA player. This will be the norm for Michigan program and I'll take that tradeoff because recruiting will improve and JB was often criticized for not able to identify and develop NBA talent. This will silence critics.
I hope everything works out all right for Darius because I know it can't go left. Seriously if this is true best of luck to the young man and thanks for an exciting season. I don't think he is ready but with so many others staying this may actually be a smart move despite how it looks on the surface.
I'm having flashbacks of when D Warren left :(
Oh, good. Let's re-open that wound.
Everybody was assuming he would be back when Katz said so this morning. I'll believe he's gone when it happens. This is just D-Mo's version of The Process. Except with fewer airplanes.
Obviously I wish him the best with whatever his decision is and we can't blame him for following his dream. But the thing that really irritates me is that he specifically said he was returning next year after the Duke game. If you're not sure about whether or not you want to leave say it, but don't lie.
Are you really attacking a kid for following what is probably his lifelong dream of playing in the NBA? I don't want him to leave either, but it's his life, not yours.
Gave his opinion doesn't mean he's attacking him. This is sports.
I agree that there is a difference between being a "hater" and having an opinion that questions the logic behind this decision. Like others have stated, I wish Morris the best, but the Euro and D-leagues are littered with guys who were told they were "solid" 1st rounders who never made it. And after what we saw with Donovan Warren being "at worst" a 3rd-rounder, I'm dubious of anyone's opinion as it relates to the the professional drafts.
even though i wish he would return, seems like this year was his best chance to make the first round with so many guys staying in school who would have been ahead of him, not to mention the incoming crop of one and dones @ kentucky, louisville, unc and st johns (?).
can't complain too much - this is what happens when john beilein recruits kids with potential nba skills - there's a chance they will leave before they're ready/we as fans want them to.
i wish him the best - maybe it will show some 2013 and beyond kids - that you can get to the nba by way of michigan again.
by the way - dear michigan <blank> hating god - dude, when are you going to let up?
If the overall goal is to simply get drafted and be in the league, then I guess that it makes sense. I just can't help but feel that barring injury, his stock would only go up this year. UofM would make significant noise with him, and they would get a lot of good press and he would be in the spotlight.
Regardless of what he decides, he needs to polish his game. I think it would be better to polish it a year at UofM, enjoying college, being the big man, etc rather than in the NBA as a rookie, under the pressure of a contract and expectations.
Maybe it's just me. I just think that the upside of staying outweighs the upside of leaving. Then again, I loved college and would gladly go back.
is there are quite a few top prospects like Harrison Barnes staying at school for one more year. Next year draft is going to be extremely deep with talents. That will push Morris down even if he improved.
That will affect his first contract no doubt, but think in terms of a five year plan...he's going to rush into the league requiring minimum 1-2 years to fill out his game. By that time Barnes and all the guys he rushed to draft ahead of, will be in the league, possibly taking his spot as they will be equally improved
There is a chance he could improve more as an NBA rookie bench player than a star college player, I don't know
Just seems like all of these decisions are based entirely on a short term NBA rookie contract, rather than an actual NBA career.
I believe Marcus Taylor used the same logic.
I'm not at all surprised. I think he's more of a system guy than a raw talent. He might find a perfect home for his game as we've seen it but in the macro I don't see a lot of opportunities for a PG without big time quicks or a perimeter shot.
I guess I didn't realize Darius was the second coming of Graham Harrell.
A perimeter shot is the one thing you can actually practice and develop. He is also strong enough and big enough to muscle his way into the post which will offset his lack of quickness.
His inability to go left however is a brutal problem and will force him to take a lot of fade aways if he tries to go left. I also expect significant frustration of on the ball defense making him want to default going right which will play into the defenses hands.
Andre Miller had learned how to go either way before he went pro and specifically used his left to get in the post and hit fades. Hopefully Darius can do that until he figures out how to maximize his handle.
This is a bummer for us fans but I'm happy for D Mo for realizing his dreams.
Please say it isn't so.... ugh
Now commence hoping/speculating/wishing about Trey Burke.
He looks like a slightly shorter stephen curry, but faster.
Phase II: His highlight videos look like Michael Jordan, but better and with the killer instinct that Jordan never had.
Thanks for all the memories D Mo like beating Sparty twice and taking Duke to the final shot. Hoping you get drafted by the Blazers.
So Darius is bouncing and Sullinger stayed.....this isn't how it was supposed to go down.
While I wish Darius well, this is a mistake on his part.
But what a horrible decision. Not because I want him to stay but because he is no where near ready to play in the league.
I guess he just wants a new court to tell somone to get the fuck off.
He will get his ass beat if he tries that next year, be it the NBA or D-League
Best of luck to Darius, but I have a feeling that he will regret this decision. You'll never have a chance to reclaim these years, and if he doesn't get drafted (or goes in the 2nd round) he'll struggle to make to the NBA. Definitely hope he proves me wrong, but this feels like a decision made by others who may not be looking out for the best interests of Morris.
so hes going from a system where he had the ball in his hand 75 percent of the time, to the bench of an nba team. for some reason i feel like this is going to stall his development.
bottom line is hes not gonna see the floor until he developes his jumper and works on his left hand. hes got a much better opportunity to gain experience and develop his skills sticking around for AT LEAST another year.
hes still got a few days to withdraw his name. every scouting report ive read has suggested that he needs to stay in college. hopefully between now and the end of the weekend reason will win out.
I think our forgotten friend was a regular user who decided to create an account to vent, but that's just me. Other school's trolls tend to gloat more than they tend to attack.
either way im glad he got the f*** off my court
Sorry to see him go if true, but we do have some good guard play coming in next year!!
I guess it turns out that Morris's tweeting of this quote earlier today--
Sometimes the best things in life come at the wrong time and the only options left are, grab it now - or never get it again.
--really was telling.
There was an article from a couple weeks ago that quoted an unnamed NBA executive saying that he "loved" Morris, so I completely disagree with all those saying that he's making a mistake. Unless he does very poorly in the upcoming workouts, someone is likely to take him late in the first round.
There's absolutely no guarantee that another year at Michigan would improve his draft standing.
For every unnamed sports executive who said he loved a guy and then didn't draft him I'd have an NBA contract.
for every incorrect draft projection from a supposed draft expert, I'd have enough to buy an NBA franchise.
but in all seriousness, you think that there aren't at least 30 players in this draft more NBA ready than D?. That's what you are saying when you say that he is going to go in the first round and no offense but that is nonsense. If he goes in the first round I'll eat my socks. No offense to him at all, but he isn't going to go in the first round.
We all had this same debate when DW entered the draft and I was one of the few that said from the beginning he would be lucky to go in the fourth round and would probably go undrafted. This is a very similar situation and I feel bad for DM if he really enters the draft. No ill will toward him, I just feel bad for the guy. Somewhere along the line he has received some poor council.
Good luck Morris.
Morris going in the first round is hardly nonsense. Right now, the "experts" have him right on the border between the late first round and early second. Good pre-draft workouts could put him solidly in the first round.
All he needs is one NBA team picking late in the first round to want him.
So even I (NOT a seasoned NBA talent scout) know to make Darius go left ALL DAY and that he has a work-in-progress-jumper that is not NBA-ready. So why do these kids insist on pushing their luck in the draft to make 1st round money? There are almost triple the D1 basketball teams than there are football, and basically the same number of 1st round spots. It boggles my mind how no one is telling him "NO! You're not ready yet! You go back 1 more, maybe 2 years, and you're swimming in first-round lottery money, baby!"
My biggest fear is two-fold. #1 is that the Cagers had something good starting and if he would just stay they could make a breakthrough next year and his stock would skyrocket (in effect making him millions of signing bonus money in the process). #2 is that Darius doesn't get drafted at ALL (or in the 2nd half of the 2nd round), and winds up a D-league nobody or playing in Europe when he could have been honing his skills on a national stage. Oh hell, it's three-fold now. #3, there is a looming NBA lockout that can possibly strip next year from him anyway! Why not just wait out the lockout situation, get a left hand, hang out with all the college women who want up in yo biznass, and then make some big money (ya know what i'm sayin'?)?
But if he does leave, I suppose best of luck to the kid, no matter how stupid of a decision I think it is.
I think Darius made a wise decision because
1) The talent is depleted in this draft with a lot of players staying in the draft. Also a lot of mock drafts have him in the end of the first round and near the top of the 2nd round and he can play himself into the a solid first round position
2) There is no guarantee even if he comes back that he would develop a 3 point jump shot. I think he will develop a left hand he was getting a lot better with his left hand toward the end of the year.
3) Also remember this Scouts can find more flaws in his game if he stays in college and he might not even improve his stock or he might make it worse
All in all I understand everyones frustration but I think Darius is entering the draft is a good business decision hes a 6'4'' PG and some team in the end of the first round will snatch him up.
Good points. Also, with the NBA negotiating a new CBA after this season, it's entirely possible -- even likely -- that next year's draft will include high schoolers from the class of 2012. Odds are good that the NBA will institute an MLB-like rule that gives high school seniors the chance to enter the draft but mandates that they stay two or three years in college if they opt not to go pro straight out of high school. So next year's draft could be unusually strong -- with the current freshmen who opted to stay in school, a strong freshman class next year, and potentially current high school juniors -- meaning that Darius could improve substantially and still struggle to tread water when it comes to his draft position.
If Morris doesn't improve his 3 point shooting, scouts would think that he'll never develop his jumper in the NBA which would certainly cause his stock to plummet. Morris has improved from freshman to sophomore year that the scouts could think that Morris will continue to improve even with a bad jumper and inability to go left effectively.
I love how this is deemed trusted news source.
So long, Darius. Wish we could unite for one more season. Best of luck.
I completely support any decision morris makes. He truly needs another year in college to develop(IMO), but the timing of the draft and the draftee's does make it unfortunate. Next year will most likely be a stronger year, and thus harder for him to make it even if he does progress.
I just want to thank Darius for giving me the greatest season of Michigan basketball that i can remember (i was zero and one for the Fab Five) and reigniting the greatest fan base in the world. I hope he a great NBA career and i can't wait to start hearing about he's the next Charles Woodson, using his fame and money to help when and where he can.