DR too short for NFL Per Mel Kiper....

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From the Det news...

"He's 6-feet even. … Is that a prototypical NFL quarterback, no matter what type of offense he plays in? No," Kiper said Wednesday during an ESPN conference call. "I think that's the issue.

 

 

Captain Obvious Link here

ATLWolverine

April 20th, 2011 at 7:42 PM ^

There was a point in the early 2000s, around Marshall Mathers/Eminem Show that I think he was certainly in the conversation of best rapper alive. Regardless, the idea that a white rapper would even be in the conversation was absurd to most people.

 

That being said, I wouldn't take it so literally, it's referencing a mid-2000s Chris Rock joke:

 

“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named 'Bush', 'Dick', and 'Colon.' Need I say more?”

 

DrewandBlue

April 20th, 2011 at 2:07 PM ^

All the aforementioned stuff actually happened.  By the way, Denard is probably one of the most gifted all around athletes in College Football.  Back off Kiper!!!

maizenblue92

April 20th, 2011 at 2:08 PM ^

I know I am going to get killed but, if you take off the maize-colored glasses and look at it he is just doing his job and saying what is true from an NFL scouts stand-point.

-He is too short. Why is Drew Brees always the go-to QB? He is the only short one. The average NFL QB is 6'3. And NFL QB's 6'3 or taller average a 5% better completion % than QBs less than 6'1.

-He also has major accuracy issues. Yes he did go over 60% last year but many mgobloggers have pointed this out and it is true. Most of his passes were set up by the run threat which he won't have in the NFL.

-He also cannot make ALL of the throws the NFL demands. 

Take it for fwiw but I am going to enjoy his great college years at Michigan and then have already accepted the fact I am not going to see him Quarterbacking on Sundays. He will probably end up being a Josh Cribbs type player.

Mr Mackey

April 20th, 2011 at 2:18 PM ^

One of the main things we're saying is that he just finished his sophomore year. I agree that if he were to be a senior right now, he would not be a good NFL QB. But that's one of the things he has said about the new offense. He's excited that it gives him the opportunity to get better at pro-style offenses and perhaps become an NFL quarterback.

Either way, the kid is way too good of an athlete not to at least make it to the NFL. If not a QB, then at least as a tremendous option for the Wildcat or something

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

April 20th, 2011 at 3:16 PM ^

One of the main things we're saying is that he just finished his sophomore year....Either way, the kid is way too good of an athlete not to at least make it to the NFL.

Right, and Mel Kiper did not say Robinson could not make it in the NFL because of his height.  In fact, Kiper also specifically said he's just a sophomore right now and has a lot of college in front of him so it's early to be projecting him.  All he said in criticism was he didn't have the height to be a prototypical NFL quarterback, which is true, and here we have half the fanbase going "WUT A DUMASS" and basically rehashing the "Pat White was a two-star" debate with rappers and golfers included.

whyyoumadtho

April 20th, 2011 at 2:09 PM ^

Everyone needs to read the article before bashing Mel here. He says that height is something that will hurt his ability to play QB at the next level. Later on in the article he also talks about how he is one of the best players in the country because of how good of an arm he actually has.

"The jury is still out on that as to where he'll end up," Kiper said. "I just want to enjoy Denard Robinson as a college quarterback right now."

 

K2

April 20th, 2011 at 2:39 PM ^

I think we all remember his evaluation of Tom Brady...

 

This is the same guy that said Jamarcus Russel would be a star for years to come as he came out of college

Michigan248

April 20th, 2011 at 3:13 PM ^

Drew Brees-great

Mike Vick-great last year

Seneca Wallace-great back up

Doug Flutie-good

Jeff Blake-decent

AKili Smith-sucked

Y.A Little-great

Eddie Lebaron-good

Erik Zier- sucked

 

This is the same guy who said Ryan Leaf,Jemarcus Russell,Matt Leinart,Vince Young, Joey Harrington,Alex Smith would all be great NFL QBs he even said AleX Smith Would be better then AAron Rodgers and that Gerald McCoy would be a better fit for the lions sceme then Ndamukong Suh 

 

Michael From TC

April 20th, 2011 at 3:28 PM ^

deserves time to respond and is reserving judgement until he hears the whole story, until then he thinks there should be no punishment because they didnt do anything wrong.

M-Wolverine

April 20th, 2011 at 3:53 PM ^

Hopefully everyone says the same thing so no one convinces him to leave early, and he plays for Michigan for 2 more years.

Magnus

April 20th, 2011 at 4:01 PM ^

Oh, jeez.  Are we really pissed off that Mel Kiper would say that Denard Robinson is probably too short to be an NFL quarterback?

Wait, wait...the quarterback who set the NCAA rushing record for the position and whose decision-making, accuracy, pocket presence, touch, and mechanics we all question on a regular basis?  Really?  He might not be an NFL quarterback?

Get out the pitchforks!

bronxblue

April 20th, 2011 at 5:14 PM ^

This doesn't surprise me in any way. Denard is a very good college QB because he can outrun most of the guys chasing him and has a decent touch on the ball. in the pros, though, he won't survive running and the defenses are just better. I see him in the NFL, but it would be an amazing evolution if it is as a starting QB.

mdm87

April 20th, 2011 at 5:49 PM ^

I definitely don't doubt that Denard could become a NFL quarterback if he put in the work to do it, but can we stop comparing him to Drew Brees? Brees is one of the most accurate quarterbacks in the history of the game. It wasn't until after the Chargers drafted Philip Rivers to replace him that he really improved and not until he worked with Sean Payton that he blossomed into the quarterback he is today.

Sac Fly

April 20th, 2011 at 7:15 PM ^

Allen iverson was to short to play in the NBA. Gary shefield would never hit the ball because he wiggled his bat to much. The spread is just a phase in college football and it will go away. Spud webb can't win the dunk contest. The point im trying to get at is, these sports experts are completely bias. We see it all the time, the game changes and the writers and the experts don't change with it because they don't want to. If football was exactaly how mel kiper jr says it should be, half the guys wouldn't be playing.

ATLWolverine

April 20th, 2011 at 7:46 PM ^

Let's not hyper-ventilate guys, does anyone seriously think any NFL team is looking at a 6'0 QB without having serious concerns about height?

Denard can disprove the haters and have an amazing career in the NFL, but Kiper isn't saying anything unfair or particularly negative here.

dahblue

April 21st, 2011 at 9:39 PM ^

Who negged you?  Certainly someone who didn't recognize the great Mel Kiper's assessment of Williams.  I don't recall, but I bet he liked Andre Ware and Charles Rogers as well.  If he did basketball, he would've raved about Mateen Cleaves.  

That being said...Denard has a better shot (given the new offense) to play QB in the NFL, but Kiper's probably right on this one.  The height might not be the reason though.  I just don't think Denard is accurate enough for the pros.  He has time to learn though.

Footballfan54

April 20th, 2011 at 8:34 PM ^

Yes yes there are always exceptions to the general rule of thumb. All that's being said is Denard is short. Which is true. Clearly he could be an NFL QB. Will he? Probably not. Simple as that