Doug Gottlieb... Michigan hating dochebag

Your problem is listening to said douchebag.

I just avoid ESPN on Sirius when driving home.  He's not very informitive, nor entertaining, and his voice irritates me.

How is this our fault? Gotleib sucks.

Someone said something mean, let's all be angry! Calm down and take a deep breath, this should have no bearing on your happiness.

I'm fairly sure Michigan basketball is back.

I checked we beat Wisconsin... What a douche bag asshole

I listened to Rome's show on Friday while driving from Miami to Tampa cause that rental car's radio only got AM stations.  In the 2 hours i listened he spent 5 minutes talking about sports and the rest of the time about getting gas and some stupid contest he is running.

I'm just happy DG got his theft addiction in check.

How do you get kicked out of Notre Dame without stealing credit cards and making illegal charges on them?

Oh yeah, you don't.  You have to do dumb stuff like commit theft and credit card fraud to get booted out of school and end up at Ok. State.  Now I totally understand.

He probably gets paid comission on every mention and angry message board post. Hey Chewie Blue: you just got Gottlieb'd. 

Ya, I wouldn't be excited for winning a conference title for a team that hasn't won a B1G title since before I was born. That's just preposterous. 

But seriously, stop giving credence to national radio talkshow hosts/columnists. They hardly ever know their head from their ass when talking about a particular team. And every "prediction" they make is no more relevant than mine or yours. If they were actually good at predicting, they would be betting in Vegas, and not spitting into the microphone. 

Here's the thing.  When you're a school like Michigan, and you have literally millions of fans, there are going to be people who hate you.  The Doug Gottliebs, the Mike Wilbons, hell even the Miek Farrells.  That's just part of the territory. 

Guess what - Doug Gottlieb doesn't talk shit about USC basketball or UConn football, because no one cares about them.  People care about Michigan.  It's what makes us great, but you have to deal with a handful of idiots along the way.

I thought Mike Farrell was already at the front of the line.

Wisconsin lost 4 home games this year. It didn't appear to be as tough to play at this year. And we beat Wisconsin by 18 at home. We also swept N'W and Illinois, who MSU both lost to and only played once. And OSU didn't play @Purdue. How can you win the B1G title without playing @ West Lafayette. He's just mad that he never won a conference championship at Notre Dame or Oklahoma St.

So Doug gottlieb hates Michigan.....this should not upset you. He is paid to give his opinions. Not everyone likes Michigan. I don't understand why you would let guys like gottlieb, wilbon, cowherd etc get to you. It's just, like, their opinion, man.

Gottlieb actually hates everything that involves the state of Michigan, never has a positive thing to say about any school in michigan, i guess it's the notre shame still in him or something.

change the station

Ooooo man I HATE DOUG! GOSH this gets me so riled up! I can't wait to hit the next small WOODLAND ANIMAL I SEE!!!

He's always been a douchebag.  He went to Notre Dame and was promptly kicked out after stealing credit cards from his teammate.  Also know that his dad coached at Milwaukee and hence the naming of not playing at Wisconsin.

We played the other two co-champions twice apiece, but played the fourth-place team only once, so our championship is invalid.  Yeah, okay.

Every Big Ten team played four teams only once.  Besides Wisconsin, the other teams we played once finished 8th (Iowa), 10th (Minnesota) and tied for 11th (Nebraska).  Easy schedule?

What's silly about this is that we are #7 in conferense SOS on ESPN's Daily RPI, nestled nicely between #3 Michigan State and #8 Ohio State. We were #1 prior to playing @Penn State Sunday.  One-plays for the champs were Iowa (all three), Minnesota (UM and Ohio), Penn State (Ohio and State), Wisconsin (UM), Purdue (Ohio), Northwestern (Michigan State), Illinois (Michigan State), and Nebraska (UM).

Basically, all three had nearly identical schedules with one-plays against Iowa, a cellar team (T-last Penn State or Nebraska), a very flawed team (T-9thMinnesota or Illinois), and then a wild card. Conventional wisdom would say Wisconsin > Purdue > Northwestern so Michigan slightly lucked out. Stupid thing for Gottlieb to bitch about. Frankly, Northwestern gave us two battles and we rolled Wisconsin, so I'm not even sure what to think of this.

Link? Link. http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi

It must bring ratings. Change the dial. Honestly, I don't care about haters. It usually is a signal we're doing well. No point in hating 5 years ago, or 10, or 15, or 20 . . . Michigan wasn't in the conversation.

You may not like UNC, or Duke, or Kansas, or Kentucky, or MSU, or Ohio, or Syracuse, or Florida, but if you pay attention, you will notice they all have haters, to various degrees, for various reasons. I'd much rather Michigan be in the hated group then the irrelevant group.

Am I supposed to know who Doug Gottlieb and Mike Conley are?  I'm completely serious.

Gottlieb's always come across as a Napoleon Complex toting B**ch.  Listening to him break down a game or spew actual knowledge is okay because he really does know the game.  Once past that, and it happens quickly, and "opinions" start getting shat out of his mouth he comes off as an ass.

To Section 1: No you're not.  Be happy you don't.  Just another pundit voice from the monopolist ESPN (& Conley played at OSU few years back).

I'm sure Gottlieb doesn't understand it, after all did he ever win one at ND (before stealing credit cards) or Oklahoma State?

I don't understand why a team has to play at Wisconsin in order to be rightfully designated big ten champs.  Yeah its a hard place to win in, but we played at Indiana instead, which is equally hard and we lost by 2.  

Just recite these statistics over and over to yourself and laugh:

• 37.9 FG%
• 23.6 3FG%
• 45.3 FT%

Who cares. No matter what anyone says, we can call ourselves B1G Champs this season.

Period.

Oooohhhhh, someone has the power to declare others "Trolls" on this thread.

Just remember, in real life, I'm the beautiful princess and YOU are the Troll.

if you're going to complain.

I Bet Jalen Rose punches his shoulder everytime they cross each other in the Espn campus.  Doug should get his vag waxed @Wisconsin.

P.S. Who else saw this guy in N'awlins?

Why are you listening to him anyway?

The banner we are going to hang... the one that will be there long after Gottleib is dead... disagrees with him.

The beauty of most sports is that games are won and lost on the field, and not in commentators' heads. It's a waste to get all worked up over what one commentator says. 

This post reminds me of the "red cedar meltdown board" everytime someone is a big meanie to sparty.

I don't listen to ESPN radio.  It is terrible radio.  Few interviews, a bunch of idiots ranting.  I can take Van Pelt.  The rest are terrible.  Gottlieb is one of the worst. 

I automatically switch the radio station/TV channel if Gottlieb or Cowherd ever come up. Those guys make every dime they have based on making sports fans angry, and I'm not going to help their salaries by getting suckered in.

Now that we are getting back to Michigan excellence in every sport, all the haters come out. This is routine shit that is just going to get worse. Cowboy up, because it will get worse. Just know we are Michigan and our W's will make them all shut their mouths.

This reminds me of an old saying. "If someone hates you for no reason, give that mother f*cker a reason." Nottlieb is an idiot.

It's not like MSU didn't get some breaks - they played the Huskers twice, we only played them once, in Lincoln.  I'm pretty confident we would've beaten them in Ann Arbor.  No one's suggesting MSU got a free pass to the B1G title by beating up on Nebraska 2x.

It's a fact of life that 1-plays happen in basketball.

Hell, how many times did Wisconsin win the Big Ten in football when they missed Michigan and/or Ohio State?  It happens.

Then I posted this.

Gottlieb rattled the cage of the biggest rival of his guest?! I'm shocked! Shocked I say!

If you are expecting national radio personalities to love your team in the same biased, passionate way you do, that is not going to happen.  The farther you get from the epicentre of any fan base the more perspective you get.  Getting a share of the Big Ten title was an awesome stepping stone for this program and all the Beilein is doing to build the program.  But when you pull back and step away from the emotion of our rabid fanbase, we had a solid but not great season.  We had trouble at times winning on the road, especially against elite opponents.  We needed help to get a share of the title.  We needed one rival to lose and another to win and we were in a position where we had to cheer for our most hated rival.  That is not an ideal space to be in. 

As for Gottlieb, I hate to tell you this, but controversy sells.  Radio hosts are not there to stroke the egos of passionate fan bases.  They do not want nuance.  They want bold opinions stated without any subtlety.  If they can exploit Gottleib's own biases against Michigan to create controversy and sell ad time, then ESPN wins. By falling for it, Gottlieb wins and ESPN wins.  Every time one of us starts a thread like this, ESPN wins.

The lesson in all this is to have perspective and not get caught up believing your own rabid fanbase hype.  The other lesson is not to get bent out of shape when some national media host spouts what you see as outrageous opinions about your home team.  That is what he is paid to do.  The fact that you let you Gottlieb get you all stirred up, stirred up enough that rather that deal with his opinion as opinion, you instead attacked him as a person (He is Domer who got kicked out of school for stealing), simply demonstates that you are an irrational homer with no perspective.  If his opinion is so idiotic that its not worth dealing with, then why would you spend time dealing with it? 

Protip: Just because someone has biases, has youthful sins and indiscretions, and rubs you the wrong way does not mean they cannot be right.  If they are wrong, they prove them wrong.  Demonstrate it with facts and data (this, btw, is the heart and soul of what MGoBlog is about...proving that MSM types are idiots through the use of data...UFR anyone???).  When you start ranting about how Gottlieb is a "hater" and making ad hominum attacks, you expose yourself as just another stupid, irrational, homeboy fan, not unlike your typical Bucknut, Sparty, or Domer. 

Every time one of these Gottlieb or Cowherd is an idiot threads pops up, I end up feeling like we have embarased ourselves as a fan base.

I heard his comment.  He was pure trolling and laughing about it later.  He couldn't contain the laughter as he said "Michigan fans are blowing me up on twitter."  He did try to bait a former Ohio State player into saying Michigan didn't deserve it, but he wouldn't take the bait. 

He did toss in that he thinks Trey Burke is a great player and that he wasn't trying to take anything away from Michigan - bringing it full circle to one of my biggest pet peeves.  Oh and by the way, the correct form, Doug, is this -

"I'm not trying to take away from Michigan, but they don't deserve to be Big 10 Champions."

Grrr....If you are going to say something then just say it.  Don't tell me that I should interpret your statement any different than it's true meaning - simply because you prefaced it with a disclaimer.  Because in the end, he was simply trying to get a reaction in a day filled with nothing exciting to talk about.  I agree with lonewolf371 here, trolling is pretty common on ESPN Radio.  No need to feed the trolls on twitter.

Having said all that, Michigan deserves to hang a banner because we earned that right.  Anyone who says otherwise is just trying to ruffle your feathers.  Be proud guys, Michigan basketball is on a huge upswing right now.

This is why I don't listen to sports radio - it's just filled with idiots who like to start crap. 

MSU fans say the same thing about not playing at Wisconsin, as if MSU getting to play Nebraska twice didn't help their cause as well.  It's a conference schedule, and sometimes you miss a school and sometimes you get a nice break.  MSU could have won the title outright by not blowing two games at the end, and OSU could have done the same by beating Illinois. UM blew out Wiscy the first time they met, and while I definitely think Wisconsin would have been a tough game on the road, who knows what would have happened.

Gottlieb has always been a bit of a whiner and an attention-monger, and ranting about college basketball teams seems to be his go-to move.

I can't stand Gotlieb.  He is one of the worst guys on ESPN and that is saying something, because most of them are a awful.

Most radios come with variable tuners.  All you have to do is push a button and you get to listen to somebody else.  In a world rife with choices, it is really pretty easy to avoid those with whom one doesn't agree.  

When I really don't like a writer or a TV/radio personality, my choice is a simple one: I don't give them clicks, views, or listens.  With the exception of the Freep, I usually don't even do it out of spite; I just don't bother listening or reading people or subjects that don't draw my interest.  

The only thing I will say in ESPN's "defense" is that they have hired quite a few Michigan alums, so at least we get some counterpoint to the Gottliebs of the world.