This whole situation is just getting weird. Honestly think he's just going to stay at Stanford at this point.
Dolphins decide to keep Sparano
With Luck coming back that wouldn't surprrising at all IMO
And Luck decides to go pro anyway after someone tells him lockout with new rookie salary scale, he'll be left holding the bag.
when asked if it was between San Fran and Stanford Adam Schefter: " I don't see 49ers as viable alternative at this time."
at Stanford b/c . . . .
The empty seats? Less money than Michigan? He's never been interested in coaching at his dream job? He doesn't want to follow in Bo's footsteps?
Stanford is probably no longer an option. He either goes to the NFL or he goes to Michigan. The time will not ever be better to jump to the NFL. This is the only time he'll have the opportunity to coach at his dream job. And people think he'll stay at Stanford and continue to look at 30,000 fans. Not gonna happen.
If he were that enamored with coaching Michigan, he'd be in A2 already...
He's playing the game. No way he stays at Stanford now. I wouldn't be surprised if Stanford is already on their own double-secret coaching search.
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to you my friend....
If he really wanted to be at UM he already would. Otherwise he is just screwing his own recruiting class over, making his job (which is not going to be easy to begin with) that much harder. Doesn't make sense.
What is that the case?
Michigan is technically a public university and the job has to be posted for 7 days to allow people to apply before announcing whom will succeed rich rodriguez
It's very surprsing people are just ignoring this. Really, neither Brandon nor JH (nor MSC or any other UM official) can even IMPLY that JH is the new coach until then. Unless they want to spend the next 10 years defending against lawsuits.
So, we have YET another clock to watch.
The good thing is we know this will never end. So, no need to get stressed over it.
Thats very interesting, I was expecting an anouncment of the new coach the next day if not the same day. I thought we would have learned our lesson 3 years ago.
legitimate shot at national title next year. That's why he'll stay.
Not with a rebuilt offensive line
Depth and Andrew Luck. The O-line isn't going to be all freshmen. They have a legitimate shot at a championship next year.
They return a bunch of starters... Yes, 3 of the O line are gone. But it's not as if they get replaced with true freshmen or anything. Stanford has done a really good job of building depth on both sides of the ball. They will be pre-season top 10 minimum, if not top 5.
Are you sure that Stanford is offering "less money than Michigan"? From a Mercury News report:
Stanford, meanwhile, emerged as a surprising contender. Harbaugh met with school officials in the morning and the NFL Network reported that Stanford’s financial proposal, with bonuses, eclipsed the 49ers’ offer. The 49ers were prepared to offer an average salary of about $5 million, with a bonus package that could take it to a maximum of $6 million annually, according to a source.
Wouldnt that easily making him the highest paid coach in the NCAA of any sport?
Makes 6.08 mil.
Wow I figured nfl coaches all made more money than college coaches
Column on the right is "max bonus."
|Ohio State||B10||Jim Tressel||3,512,000||376,389||3,888,389||450,000|
|Wake Forest||ACC||Jim Grobe||2,939,475||0||2,939,475||0|
|Georgia Tech||ACC||Paul Johnson||2,300,000||0||2,300,000||1,125,000|
|Southern Methodist||CUS||June Jones||2,142,056||0||2,142,056||0|
We are now talking about paying 5 or 6 millon to an unnamed head coach, but we couldn't pay 900 thousand for Jeff Casteel? Along with our $2.5 million head coach?
If you watched Brandon's presser, you know that we are going to pay a salary commensurate with where he, Mary Sue, and the regents believe our program should fit nationally. In other words, we're talking about top 10 college money. That is more than Stanford will pay. That is more than Stanford can pay.
Supposedly the Niners offered 4.2. - 4.5 million. Stanford could jpossibly do better than that if you include shoe money and appearances, and appearances and stuff, but they can't approach the next level.
This looks more and more like an effort by Harbaugh and Brandon to arrive at the "market price".
But the report above implies that Stanford may be willing to pay Harbaugh more than $6 million a year.
And I'm sure they have the resources/donors to fund that if they want to keep him that badly.
and I don't think they want to. Maybe 5 mill. I don't see them giving Stoops, Saban money. I just don't. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't think so, tho.
Oh, and btw, why wouldn't Michigan tap a donor or two if that's what was going on? An offer is already on the table, and if the regents have a cap, and if Mary Sue won't go over a dollar amount, why not have S. Ross make a promise or two to meet or exceed.
I don't doubt that Michigan could make Harbaugh the highest-paid college football coach if it wanted to or that it could possibly top Stanford in a bidding war. But Stanford isn't some Podunk college--they have plenty of resources:
Stanford University raised more in private donations than any other U.S. college or university last year, even as charitable support for higher education fell steeply nationwide because of the recession, a new survey shows.
Stanford held onto the top spot for the fifth straight year, taking in $640.1 million in donations in 2009, down about 18% from the previous year, according to the report released Wednesday by the Council for Aid to Education. Harvard was second with $601.6 million, followed by Cornell, the University of Pennsylvania and Johns Hopkins.
Source: LA Times article from 2/4/2010
Their endowment is bigger than ours. They just have to decide whether or not they want to make the necessary financial commitment towards athletics to remain a football powerhouse. I don't know if they will, but if want to, they can certainly do it.
The Stanford Athletic Department is running a deficit and I highly doubt endowment funds will be used to make JH the highest paid coach in the country at a school that is generally indifferent about football. Any additional money will likely come from wealthy alums or other outside sources (which is very possible), not from the school itself.
John Elway, James Lofton, John Lynch. Elway could probably do it on his own if he really wanted to, although I'd think it wouldn't be a good idea ... probably want to get the deep-pocketed alumni to share the load.
The department isn't running a deficit now, but they don't seem to have the cash on hand for a big offer ... it would have to be from alumni, I think. FWIW, it looks like Stanford's overall athletic budget is about 80% of Michigan's ...
I just heard on espn that Michigan offered jh 5.2 million and he turned it down. Take it for what its worth. It looks as if he played everyone and will stay at stanford. Remember when the ad at Stanford said he presented jh will a new contract and said jh would sign it. Maybe he was telling us the truth. I think I will be more pissed if he stays at Stanford. So we have fired our coach one year premature because when luck leaves next year jh will probably be available again. Great job DB.
This isn't on you, but since it's the apocalypse, I might as well say that ESPN and its affiliate companies can suck a very large bag of dicks right about now. Their credibility sailed a long time ago with me, and it's only getting worse, IMO. So, basically, anything I hear/read from ESPN I will take with a grain of shut-the-fuck-up.
Not sure if you're referring to John Clayton's report , but in DB's press conference this week he was pretty adamant in refuting the 5.2 million being offered.
Dude tap danced around that question more than almost any other question he was asked throughout the entire press conference. It seemed clear to me that it was true.
Make Harbaugh one of the highest paid public officials in the country. This is going to happen.
What has JH proven other than winning in a soft conference. Michigan is a different animal. If he stays at Stanford, there are some good candidates available and I am not talking about Hoke, Peterson etc
If we are going to pay top 10 money (4.5 - 5 mill) we better get a top 10 coach, not Brady Hoke.He could be had for 20% of that.
given that stanford's endowment is more than twice the size of ours (13.8 b vs our 6.6b according to google & wiki), i'm pretty sure they can raise money at least as well as we can. just look at the alumni with huge $. they've got a ton of alums with crazy silicon valley cash, (including both the google guys, only one of whom is also a UM alum), plus a business school just as good as ours. (when i was looking at schools, one of stanford and michigan was #1 in one of the big rankings, and the other had been #1 the previous year.)
But I could also be tired. Trying to find any news on the next UM coach is hard, If only wed Jan 12th would come. So DB could tell us already.
Could have sworn. Tomato tahmahtoe
Its all conjecture right about now.
One article said he broke off talks with the Dolphins. He had to know Luck was coming back before he started talking to them, right? Wouldn't a head coach know that?
Saw that on SI.com
Here you go: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/01/06/jim-harbaugh-dolphins.ap/index.html?eref=sihp
Hope is still alive!
is bummed out right now
No one knows anything. Ignore anyone who claims to know anything. Doubly ignore any premium site currently claiming to "know what's going on, but will wait until after this all shakes out to reveal it."
So glad I don't pay for info anymore, although it would almost be worth it in times like these just to satisfy my rumor fix.
Scout is just reposting the same "Michigan has a plan, and plan A is Harbaugh, and plan B is other people" thing 4 times a day.
Rivals posters created a conspiracy theory out of whole cloth suggesting that Harbaugh's candidacy was torpedoed by shadowy forces within the Athletic Department and/or Mary Sue Coleman to fulfill personal vendettas, and then has worked itself up into an insane lather about how those people who Rivals invented out of thin air must be purged before the program goes into the shitter.
and a football obsession.
whaddya want from me?
know what's going on, but will wait until after this all shakes out to reveal it."
that's gotta be tom beaver.
it's Chris Balas!
(although it is also Tom Beaver)
tom beaver was my math/computer teacher in junior high. good times.
Is that the thing Gerg rubbed in our linebackers faces?
Surprising. Not sure how that will play out at all. I might die of this soon.
now its a matter of outbidding San Fran and getting him here
Interesting news. Good or bad? Idk....but you're saying I gotta chance?!
Finally an ounce of good news. I'm growing tired of being constantly bitch slapped
LOL maybe that conspiracy is coming true.
Steve Ross definitely slipped Harbaugh some $$$ under the table to take the MICH job
now we'll have to call it "The Stephen M. Ross Big House"
In all seriousness.....how can you go from offering him the richest coaching contract in the NFL and then pull it two days later? How bizarre is that?
I read somewhere today that Harbaugh wanted complete control in Miami and the Dolphins didn't want GM Jeff Ireland to be replaced, that was the dealbreaker.
You can have complete control...in college.
Actually, having read that DB had a penchant for sitting in on film sessions and such - might that not be a deterrent for JH (or for that matter, any other HC prospect)?
DB is a CEO. CEOs usually want to sit back and not get involved. However, they DO get involved when things are working right. In a big company, there is always something not working right. So they pick waht the most important to get involved with.
DB was in on film sessions because UM football had a terrible record the last two years. I don't think he would have spent a lot of time watching film is UM was doing even ok (3 or 4 loss seasons in '08 and '09
is that? DB is the Jerry Jones of CFB? No way I'd want my AD in on day-after-game film breakdown sessions. Come on out to practice, fine. Stop by the locker room, we'd love to have your support. RR obviously wasn't in a position to ask Brandon to cease and desist. (And maybe this is a RR only thing -- i.e., because of the "evaluation" he thought he needed to be that close to it). But lord let the new coaches do their jobs without looking over their shoulder constantly. No employee wants that. It would certainly a sticking point with me if I were a candidate for this job (which I may be at this point, Amiright?), and I can easily see Harbaugh (given his reputation) addressing this in any hypothetical negotiation.
So Dave Brandon is the Jerry Jones of CFB? That could be good and bad.
does anybody else worry that harbaugh is a little, um, unbelievably arrogant?
maybe ross is working on behalf of brandon to fund harbaughs contract at UM. i don't think it's that far-fetched for 3 guys wanting to "save" their alma mater's football program.
one can dream.
If this conspiracy theory is coming true then omg there was a shooter in the grassy knoll! There was two shooters everybody!
There were two shooters everybody!
Have we made an official offer to the guy? I am talking about an official/public offer...b/c people are reporting we havent even contacted the guy.
Don't trust "people". Think logically, and within yourself if you think we haven't at least spoken with the overall consensus #1 coaching pick....you are probably mistaken.
How do I know I should trust you? Aren't you in the the category of "people?" You did say don't trust people, but if you are in fact a person, then how can I trust your word that I shouldn't trust people.......? FML and conspiracies. This coaching search is starting to get to me. Non-stop rumors are good for nobody. Please Harbaugh, take Michigan's fat contract and win us a national championship. Or a few...
Would you guys rather have Harbaugh or Urban Meyer?
On paper? Urban Meyer. In reality, both annoy the shit out of me. I'm still trying to get over letting go RR and Calvin Magee et al (offensive coaches primarily.)
Eh, on paper. But look at Meyer without Mullen as OC. Good, but he was in trouble with Addazio. If Urban came in with a great OC.
I'm hearing credible info that we're interviewing Gruden (my good friend's friend in the AD). If this is true, and we can fantasize, it raises an interesting question:
Hoke as DC/unofficial Coach in Waiting with Gruden HC? No way Gruden would stick around for more than 5 years. Gives him a chance to develop Hoke and audition him. No way Gruden has a substantial staff ready to move. If Hoke loves Michigan like he says he does, he'd jump at this...
I'm down with Gruden, but you don't make a short term hire here, IMO. Unless DB views this hiring as "get the coach that can turn things around asap, irrespective of long term goals". I just don't think you want to risk long term.
That if we were to hire Gruden, there would be NFL buyout clauses the likes of which have never been seen before. I don't have total confidence in Brandon, but I'm pretty sure he'd at least take care of that.
I'd be excited about hiring Gruden like I'd be excited to go skydiving. He's never coached college, and he'd need a staff from whole cloth, and he knows nothing about recruiting but he's undeniably a good NFL coach and seems like he'd have the charisma, connections, and name recognition to convince 18 year olds WHEEEEEEEE!
John Gruden makes me write run-ons. I'm not sure if what we need is to up the boldness ante with our next hire by 100%, but I guess it would be pretty interesting.
I'm still bummed about RR and Calvin too, but now looking back I can see why they are gone. We couldn't put significant points versus OSU, MSU, the other MSU, and Wisco. The other prolific offenses around the country would have kept pace and made it a shootout. We were just plain embarrassed in those games. I know the team is young, but we weren't even competitive in those games. Change was needed, and I can see that now.
Would I rather have Filet or Ground Chuck (with a health issue)?
I think he's as old as Paterno, if not departed from this earth by now.
I'm calling he is staying at Stanford, especially with Luck returning. NFL after next season.
agree (under normal circumstances I'd just +1 you)
Maybe the ghost of Bo visited him like Obi-Wan and told him to get his ass back to Ann Arbor!
Photoshop Request: Bo as a hologram with a real neat word bubble saying "Help us Jim Harbaugh. You're our only hope......Or doom. We've got that as an option too."
With Luck returning to Stanford, I think Harbaugh will probably return to the Farm if he doesn't go to the NFL.
My uncle's brother in law's sister's accountant's son plays at Stanford and said that JH was coming to Ann Arbor all along. The only holdup is that he just loves seeing his face on TV
I just found out today that a grad student that works in my lab has a brother who played for JH at SDU for a year (then quit the football team). He doesn't know anything about the situation now though.
Uhh, I think you missed the joke.
My wife's sisters daughters friends mother said she heard it from a friend of her friend that her friend said he wasn't.
This has turned into the craziest story. It seems like every hour there is a new story about Harbaugh. I agree with wlubd, I think he is staying at Stanford. Especially now that Luck is staying there another year.
Never say never...
Is Vegas laying odds on where Harbaugh ends up next year?
DON'T TOY WITH ME, UNIVERSE
Goes to show nobody knows anything.
Socrates was ahead of his time man. Ahead of his time.
$50 says he's staying at Stanford.
Your on! This is the best news we've heard all day, I have a tingling feeling right now!!
...and add a dollar. Seems alil fishy (no pun intended) that JH and the Dolphins didn't work out hours after Luck decides to return to Palo Alto. I think the prodigal son is staying in Stanford
Harbaugh is making the right move based on Luck's decision. Stay at Stanford, a school who is less than passionate about football, so he can coach Luck for exactly one more season and no longer. Meanwhile he is passing up huge money in the NFL and his theoretical dream college job. Yup, makes perfect sense. I would make the same move....if I were CRAZY. Passing up all of these opportunities based on coaching one more year with a great quarterback? Use some logic here. Jim is coming home soon!
Staying at Stanford gives Harbaugh a chance to coach Luck and other players he has a bond with for one more season as well as a great shot at a national title, or at least another BCS bowl season to bolster his resume even more. Then, he'll probably be able to once again take his pick of be several NFL jobs. And he could have even more bargaining power to get more control over whatever team he winds up at. Obviously there's some risk here (a potential lockout could stop coaches from being fired, Stanford could have a disappointing year, etc.), but it's not a terrible move from his standpoint.
JH stays too? So Harbaugh stiffs UM and now his other UM ties at Miami who were looking at a coach while deciding whether to fire their existing coach.
Well, it's official then, Harbaugh is going to leave Stanford to take over Domino's. Case closed.
Phoenix University will be forming a football team and Harbaugh will coach them from home in his pajamas. Latest news
Nike? Adidas? Fashion Bug?
Inquiring minds need to know.
Hmmm... very telling. Never have an away game...
GODDAMMIT NOW WE CAN'T HIRE TONY SPARANO
On the plus side, Manginius is still available.
SF, maybe, if he wants to coach in the pros. Michigan if he wants college. Stanford if he wants the pros but doesn't like the current options. I said before, maybe because I want it to be so, that the negotiations with the pros is the best way to get Michigan to improve its offer. If the Dolphins pass on JH to retain Sparano, either JH withdrew or JH luster in the pros is waning. Either way I like the development
is no coincidence that Stephen Ross was meeting with Harbaugh . . . . There are "things" underway and Harbaugh will be the next Michigan coach.
I just want him to pick Stanford or whomever and get this over with. I hate getting renewed hope only to watch it get crushed
tribe of 87 says he's coming to michigan
...As long as we don't Low Ball him.
Who is "tribe of 87"
Forgive me in advance if this is obvious and I'm just hammered and dense. Yes, I've been on a bender since the press conference.
I guess he decided NOT to take his talents to South Beach.
The guy has met with two nfl programs and no definite offer...
conspiracy!!! It is Ross's idea to get Harbaugh to Mich!! double San Frans offer to get them to back off and line him up with UofM!! I figured it out!!!!1!!!1!!!
Check out this guy's wiki sometime. He's worth $4.5 billion, owns 95% of the Dolphins and their stadium. Ross co-chaired U-M's fund-raising drive and serves on Impressively Titled Advisory Boards in the AD, as well as chairing or trusteeing half a dozen other uber-organizations. The man is a kingpin. I'm not donning my tinfoil hat just yet, but he's definitely a major, major player for UM.
He also really really liked RR, and was pissed about the entire fractioned situation, and his subsequent firing, apparently and fwiw.
This tin foil is itchy.
Guess that thwarts any open-and-shut interpretation of his actions.
was to show Brandon who really had pimp hand in the situation and the ability to move the pieces however he wanted.
If true, that would not suppor the conspiracy theory. What is your source on Ross not being happy with RR being fired?
I watched an interview with Mr. Ross at the beginning of the season and he basically said he supported RR and UM but if they struggled he would be ready for a change.
till it's over.
Michigan Coach Search Hating God is effing with us big time on this shit..... we seriously need to figure out what we did to piss Michigan _____ Hating God off and get him to GTFO of Ann Arbor!
Harbaugh looks like a young Lloyd Carr in that banner up there. Very telling...
has Ross become Don Corleone?
Yes. It is good to friends in the NFL. It is better to have owner friends in the NFL who have building on campus named after them . . . . .
"Mr. Corleone never asks a second favor once he's refused the first, understood? "
The public dialogue was, I'm looking at every other very unlikely team that's willing to offer me big dough, but not you guys. Not my alma mater, who supposedly offered me even bigger dough than one of the NFL teams I talked to. Nope, I won't even acknowledge that I thought about coming.
I wish there was some more public dialog between Michigan and the Harbaugh camp.....it just seems to quiet.
I lol'd...thought you should know.
At first I was mad at u but then i was happy
classic DB style. Following the 1st rule of fight club to the T.
I can see Harbaugh staying one more season with Luck, and shooting for the BCS championship.
But what then?
He clearly doesn't want to stay at Stanford for years and years...if he did, he wouldn't be looking like he is. He wants to go to the NFL. No matter what, he will never be much hotter commodity than he is today.
So I see no way that he would Stay at Stanford, unless he is insane.
I still don't think he is coming here, but Miami was the least likely destination at the start of the week. Denver and SF still seem pretty likely...
Besides the usual Harbaugh-walks-on-water adoration going on here, there also seems to be a hint that he has to feel some sort of duty to come coach at Michigan.
He doesn't owe us anything. Why would he feel compelled to come here?
Would you quit your job and turn down higher paying offers to go work at U-M in a non football coach capacity? Just doing your regular job but for less money because you get to work at Michigan? He can love his alma mater all day but this is still his job at the end of the day and he's probably going to choose the best career move. That may still turn out to be Michigan, but we shouldn't hold it against him if he gets a better offer and decides to take it.
I for one will hold it against JH if he bails on us. I know this is the irrational angry fan in me talking but if he doesn't take the UM job I will root against his teams.
/powerless, useless rant
But NO ONE knows the real numbers, or T's and C's that are really on the table.
We're to blame.
we're talking about is astronomical. I would come to Michigan in a heartbeat, yes.
I have no problem with Harbaugh going to the pros. So that is not why I will root against him. However, I will root against him because he seemingly cock teased us only to use our love for him as a bargaining ploy to get a bigger pay day somewhere else.
I thought he was a fool when he said it, but maybe Mike Hart was right all along.
The NFL, college football, it's all about money anyway. Deny that it's Big Business. So why shouldn't JH get his piece of it? Why excoriate a guy who's is trying to make more money for himself and his family?
If Stanford or any NFL team wants to throw some insane amount money at him, he should take it.
Why do people think that the U of M HC job is a "dream job"? We just ran a head coach out of town.
I don't think this thought experiment works, since Harbaugh would likely have a closer connection to the university than the majority of us who just got degrees there or are fans of the football team. He grew up a fan, spent hours every week practicing/training, played in front of 100k fans, etc.
But still, if the difference were between 7 million a year and 5 million a year, yeah I'd be willing to take the Michigan job over the other one. Get pretty Keynesian at a certain point.
... unless I had to move away from Palo Alto to come to Michigan. Bay Area's pretty nice if you can afford it.
I sent Ross all of my Bolivianos I've acquired from selling cigarettes since I've been here to convince JH to come to Michigan and he ACTUALLY did it!!!
Here is the going exchange rate for Bolivian money:
1 US Dollar = 7.15530 Bolivian Boliviano
1 Bolivian Boliviano (BOB) = 0.13976 US Dollar (USD)
So I'm guessing JH got a couple hundred? A nice dinner plus a cigar? A wider-screen TV perhaps?
I wrote a nice letter too, silly.
Gosh darn it I wish I could upvote this one. Oh well. Imaginary +1 to you.
You'd be in the -3000s if not for the point freeze.
Wake me up when september begins
Seems like Harbaugh is about to see what just about every NFL team with an open position has to offer in only a few days time. If nothing blows his skirt up then DB can make his pitch and offer whatever it takes to pry him away from Stanford.
was the most dramatic thing I experienced this season. Will keep on watching the disabled MGoBlog site and Twitter through the weekend.
The cruelest blow of all will be where he has his press conference after signing an extension with stanford and says he didn't gomto Michigan because of academics.
Seriously though, if stays at stamford, Brandon should offer John harbaugh 20 mill a year and dictatorship over ann arbor to get back at jimmy
He's gonna stay at Stanford. I've never been so sure of anything in my life.
Being a Michigan fan these days is weird as fuck, but probably not as bad as being a Stanford fan.
all 40,000 of them
Now Harbaugh would just be making M look like sloppy fourths. No way.
We really have no idea what the dialogue has been between the two parties. For all we know, it's where he wants to be but Coleman and crew feel otherwise.
Considering his status among possible coaching hires, I'll akin him to Jessica Alba, and she's welcome anytime.
Thank you sir may I have another?
I think JH is a proud man and seeing his qb make a ballsy decision to come back just might inspire him to do the same and stay at Stanford for one more year. On top of that it looks like Stanford threw the bank at him today.
I also wonder if JH stock is going down with the NFL's teams with what he wants. Our leverage may be increasing but it is still a long shot.
to my roomate: That beer pong table is so inspired!!!
That is just beautiful. Imaginary plus 1 to you!
It was all a ploy to get a raise. He wants to stay at Stanford provided he gets more dough. Then every year, he'll do a little look-see around the NFL to see what's available. Stanford needs him more than he needs Stanford. What a nice position to be in.
Then we have a chance!
This whole situation is fucked up.
This is such a roller coaster....i hate how much this reminds me of 2007..
Wait 'til you see how you feel in three weeks, when this is still dragging on and we've been turned down by multiple coaches.
That's how it was in 2007.
If we don't get HardBallZ, then Grewden Grewden Grewden!!!!!11!!1!!one!!111
/sorry, had to
Adam Schefter: " I don't see 49ers as viable alternative at this time."
If we've learned anything it is that Stanford would beat M in an Education Battle of Smartz and Other General Academia Knowledge Pertinent to JH.
i shouldve asked for this for christmas
Okay, maybe I didn't. But I didn't say this wouldn't happen, which is basically the same thing.
Remember, you heard it here first!
I know more, but I have to wait until it all shakes out to reveal.
Not likely, but maybe Ross saw that Harbaugh being unproven in the pros was not worth the money. M's chances just went up, but so did San Fran's and Denver's...
So if Miami is not interested, was this a case of Stephen Ross trying to see what cards DB was playing? Was he undermining him, reporting back to other somewhat influential alums? Was he making this harder for the 49ers the whole time to either keep JH at Stanford or Michigan? Is he sort of even suggesting DB is an uncapable buffoon by "talking to Harbaugh"? Its late and my mind is now in full blown conspiracy theory mode, for better or worse. By suggesting Sparano is a better alternative to JH, Ross has definately reigned in the JH hype machine and put UM back into contention for his services by releasing that statement, kind of casts doubt on JH's coaching abilities.
He certainly is a rich and successful one.
wouldnt the worst case scenario be that he signs here at michigan and we get all excited... then andrew luck goes #1 in next year's draft and jim harbaugh leaves to go with him?
worst case is the Mayans are right
worst case scenario is the mayans were off by one year...
Worst Case Scenario: The Y2K people were right and this is like our own personal Inception meets The Truman Show with computers as the directors and producers.
Thereafter, who needs a football team?
My head hurts. The thing is, while Luck is taking some risk by staying an extra year, Harbaugh's taking more risk if he doesn't do the NFL jump. 12-1 with an Orange Bowl victory will be hard to top next year, especially with 3 5th year seniors leaving the Offensive Line. SO if Stanford goes, say, 10-3 or 11-2, will Harbaugh be as hot a candidate? Will there by as many openings available?
Then again, maybe Stanford wins the BCS next year while the Ravens go undefeated proving the genius of all things Harbaugh, and Jim Harbaugh takes the Chargers job for $10 mil a year.
if he wanted to be here he would be..Drop the whole "he's jsut trying to get the most money out of Michigan act". We all know he could have named his price in the 3rd quarter of the Gator bowl and Brandon wouldn't have thought twice. He'll go back to Stanford (who would want to take over the trainwreck 49ers). Michigan (or now most likely Stanford were only going to be a stepping stone until a desirable NFL job opened.
DB shouldnt even waste precious time if he gets the vibe JH won't come here. It will keep egg off his face and the university's and he can focus his time to go after someone who wants to come here. This whole JH circus could go on awhile. DB has obviously moved on, wisely.
it felt about right to me
I still think Harbaugh has never been offered the job at M. For whatever reason.
You are dreaming.
who could pick Luck with the first pick and keep them together.
also, Carolina is an NFC team, so the brothers Harbaugh wont compete head to head unless it is a Super Bowl.
Luck staying in school
Enjoy the rookie new rookie salary cap Luck! It will be waiting for you in 2012.
sir i believe andrew luck is returning to school (unless he changes his mind)... so harbaugh is not going there...
Is on the record saying that they will look for an NFL assistant or coach with past NFL experience. Their #1 is Cowher.
Never have I been so confused about a sporting situation.
I'm nearly as confused about this as I was at the Midget Jai Alai World Championships in '99. I swear the short bastard in the yellow jersey was effing it up on purpose only because I bet on him. Very confusing.
He might have met with JH, they talked about UM, Ross talks him into going to UM for, say 8 years. If JH has the itch in the future, Ross tells him that he'll hire him as his next coach...plausible, no?
"Jimmy - go back to Michigan and re-right the ship. Set it all up so that when you decide to leave for the NFL at a later date, that one of your assistants is fully set to take over the helm as HC - so Michigan never has to go through what we just went through - ever, ever again."
That would be some crafty shit, man.
Brett Farve called and said Jim Harbaugh is acting like a diva....i hung up on him.
Are you sure it wasn't a text? Be honest.
...yes...yes....(weeping)....it was a picture text
according to Mortenson, went onto "unrelated business" in SoCal after his meeting with the GM and Harbaugh. He then resumed meeting with Harbaugh's agent. Gee, think Ross just negotiated the deal for us?
If he did they can rename the football stadium after him as well.
Stadium? I'll name my kids after him. All of them.
Ross probably got tired of CC threads and MGomeltdown. enough is enough says Ross.
Ross is like Han Solo in Episode 4.......he just shot Darth Vader and gave Luke the perfect opportunity to destroy the Death Star......the only question now is can we place the missles perfectly? They're about the size of a womp rat!
USE THE FORCE DAVID...
Here we go...
the Luck decision may be the event that changed everthing. Staying at Stanford with a better contract and Luck for another season has to look better than the reengineering job needed at Michigan. Plus JH would likely scare off DRob and how happy would we be with that prospect.
What a joke. Enjoy the Farm Harbaugh. Go Oregon!
Is one year of Luck really worth it? I guess I'd just be surprised if he thinks it will get any better for Stanford than it did this year....especially after he's gone. He's had great success in developing quarterbacks but Luck is a once a decade type guy.
Ty Willingham had a hell of a run after leading Stanford to the rose bowl.
then back to 7-5 for Stanford. Just like Auburn will be next year without Cam Newton.
JH was not offered three years ago was his desire to one day coach in the NFL and UM was looking for a long term coach?
I see DB waiting this out and getting the last interview with JH and riding the emotional roller coaster all the way back to AA with JH aboard.
Too risky. Forget JH. DB has messed this up bad. We will be feeling this pain for years to come. DB will forever be remembered for this. We need a coach now and JH is off the table.
If Ross gets this done HE is the man, not DB.
I think it might actually be in the stars or something for Michigan to get him. Its just too damn wierd/coincidental/unbelievable of a turn of events.
You couldnt make this stuff up! I mean take a step back, pretend you're an Oaklahoma or ND or whatever fan and think about all this drama & PR over the UofM head coaching job!I know that we all just think and feel the negativity eminating from this situation but if you look from the outside it"s probably somewhat fascinating just for the size/scope of the story and the legs it just keeps growing.
I'm feeling about 70/30 right now in favor of him coming to AA. Just a gut feeling but being that the BEST of the NFL options for him was Miami. SF is hiring a new GM that I've heard already has some bad history with Harbaugh(maybe Jon?). In Denver you're in Elways shadow, no question about it. Elway is Denvers version of Steve Yzerman.
I actually thought Dallas or Miami was most likely to win the Harbaugh lottery and now both of them are out?? Stanford w/ Luck might seem like a reasonable thing but really I cant ever see a coach letting a player, who is definately going to leave, influencing something as important this is to JH.
Me thinks he's coming home.
Finally, our own Michigan 30 for 30.
Just put on a MICH ball cap. Do some crunches in the driveway of his home. (a la T.O.) talk to the media, and make a pitch to MSC and DB. For fucks sake. 10 years 55-60 million. DB can even use his pimp hand, JH you can bolt to the NFL in 5 years. The buyout is 1 NC, 3 Rose bowls, and 5 OSU wins!
Could it be that Harbaugh overestimated his value?
latest on twitter
"WhitlockJason Jason Whitlock
DAMMIT. ALWAYS THE DARK HORSE!
This just reminded me that Stan Parrish is available!
@timkawakami Tim Kawakami
Do you think that Ross would want the AD job? Now that there is a pimp hand:
Harbaugh and 49ers: Alright we almost have a deal. Ross: I'll double whatever they're offering Jim. Harbaugh: Ha fuck you SanFran, I'm going to Miami. Ross: Enh I'll keep the guy I have after all. I hope you didn't burn any bridges. Harbaugh: .... If Ross really did manage to keep JH out of the NFL (even if JH stays at Stanford) I'll be rather impressed.
If nothing else Ross delayed the 49ers deal and bought Brandon another day or two to fire off one last push to get Harbaugh.
Michigan job is better than Stanford job (from pre-Orange Bowl rumors)
49ers job is better than Stanford job (post Orange Bowl rumors)
Miami job is better than 49ers job (yesterday's rumors)
Stanford job is better than 49ers job (tonight's rumor)
Stanford job is better than Michigan job (inferred rumor)
I suppose Denver can come in and mess things up even more, but this is nuts. I don't think Harbaugh can ever command a higher NFL salary than right now, given the number of suitors, the success of his brother, and his success at Stanford. Would he stay at Stanford and then jump to the NFL, but risk having worse offers?
I can handle JH going to the NFL. But if he chooses Stanford over Michigan, Andrew Luck or no, well... we'll know his wife hates snow.
7&4 is too busy reporting about the murder-suicide today to get any sports stories correct.
That's why I watch 9-10 News out of Petoskey. You know they're wrong.
Word on the inside is he's going back to Stanford and then testing the NFL waters next year. Don't ask me what the inside is, but that's what the word is.
no offense, but the inside word was that he was a lock for miami no more than 6 hours ago.
is miami no longer interested in jim harbaugh, which is great for us. but his brother john reportedly said he might be interested in the Michigan job!!! either of the harbaugh brothers would make an excellent coach! idk if it's true i heard it via twitter, fwiw.
to be on Dancing With The Starts. This came from a Ryan Seacrest tweet.
Straight Dave out!
is miami no longer interested in jim harbaugh, which is great for us. but his brother john reportedly said he might be interested in the Michigan job!!! either of the harbaugh brothers would make an excellent coach! idk if it's true i heard it via twitter, fwiw.
Is that Luck is actually going to take like 30 credits this semester so he can graduate and then utilize the Master's degree at a different school rule and come with JH to Michigan!
What I find the most irksome is how this coach search is being portrayed as this scramble for anyone willing to take the job. 3 years ago, no one wanted the job... even Schiano rejected it... Michigan isn't what it used to be...
This year, "Fitzgerald won't go to Michigan, will stay at Northwestern..." I mean, how else is DB to get a feel for what's out there without inquiring? Just because Michigan contacts you, doesn't mean the job is yours. Michigan is doing its due diligence. All the commentary on ESPN and other outlets suggest the opposite. AH.
Fitzgerald's already at his dream job. And don't listen to ESPN they're rarely right about anything.
Right or wrong, ESPN is the premier media outlet for a majority of NCAAF fans. Most fans take in what ESPN reports; perception is often reality. Not to say coaches buy into the "Michigan is not a good place to be..." but recruits might.
DB would give Fitz the job in a second. We are screwed. Welcome Hoke and entertaining games with the Gophers for the jug.
At least we won't have to pay Hoke and we can save that money for awesome new scoreboards.
Someone's going to get a seizure from this GIF, I can feel it.
I want the conspiracy to be true not to land Harbaugh but just b/c if it were true it would be up there with the JKF assassination.
I think Brandon is likely sitting in a corner and coloring on a pizza box (plus eating a crayon now and then) while Ross wields the pimp hand right now.
What are the chances Stanford wins MNC next year if JH stays? I say unlikely b/c Oregon is going to more experienced and Bama is going to roll.
Mortensen just said on SC that everyoone expects Harbaugh back at Stanford. What a change in circumstance. I remember everyone saying that there is no way he returns to Stanford. What a mess. C'mon DB.
Morty is shooting about 0-10 on this JH thing, so there's that.
Morty is shooting blanks on this story. ZING!
Has Mortenson ever gotten anything right? Schefter FTW baby!
Although he says the same thing...
Hart was right about Harbaugh!
I didn't see one posted on Midnight Maize and I need more discussion tonight. Starts at 12:15 feel free.
But the wording is interesting
"sparano is the man for the job" almost implies a bad interview....
Just a thought
"Jay_Glazer Jay Glazer
cmon Jim! just come back to ann arbor already...
I'm emotionally bankrupt.
Is there a echo in here? ;)
Harbaugh is and HAS BEEN gone! Wake up guys...........we are in BIG trouble.