Does Nussmeier Hire Open Up the QB Competition?

Submitted by btjabrone on

Like most people, I was not expected much of a QB competition this spring.  It seemed like it was Gardner's job to lose, barring injury.  Now that we have a new pro-style OC coming in, without any history with either QB, I think it could open the QB competition in the spring.  Shane Morris obviously has a lot of talent and showed good poise during the bowl game.  However, if Nussmeier is as good of a QB developer as advertised, we might finally see Gardner reaching his potential, like we've seen in a few games the past two years, more consistently.  Do you all think Gardner still has a big lead on Morris this spring?

Yinka Double Dare

January 9th, 2014 at 11:10 AM ^

What in the last time we saw Devin Gardner on the field makes you think that he wouldn't be the starter?  I mean, coaches will always have competition for spots, but come on, the guy led our offense to that many points against OSU with a broken foot for half the game.  I put the chances of Gardner not starting as whatever the percent chance is of Gardner being hurt and unable to start.

An Angelo's Addict

January 9th, 2014 at 11:11 AM ^

I still can't see how Morris would start over Gardner. Gardner still shows the bigger playmaking ability and with a little help from his OC he could put up some amazing numbers. I'm not saying Morris can't but at this point Gardner is still a clear QB1 in my mind

Reader71

January 9th, 2014 at 11:11 AM ^

If Shane Morris started every game of 2013, we win 1-3 games. Gardner was our entire offense. What's more, he sacrificed his foot for Michigan. He will start.

Felix.M.Blue

January 9th, 2014 at 11:19 AM ^

This does open the competition but as others said....it should be open regardless. Both should improve over the Spring, Summer, and Fall going into the season with this guy.

If Devin does win the job, he won't have as much slack if they are strugling. I really don't know how Devin will react considering he seemed to be a shell of himself after they lost a couple games and lost confidence. He played well aginst ohio but November was an ugly month.

I think the starting position is up to Devin to decide. 

ScruffyTheJanitor

January 9th, 2014 at 11:17 AM ^

am much more worried about the competion and improvement on the offensive line. If it remains a tire fire, we might end up having no choice but to see both get blugeoned to death. 

dahblue

January 9th, 2014 at 11:19 AM ^

For all the Gardner haters, the stat you probably are forgetting is that while he threw 10 picks in his first 6 games, he only threw 1 in his last 6...and he was getting abused at the same time.  He's going to be a serious weapon next year, and we'll have a really good backup.

Where it changes the QB picture is with regard to 2015 recruiting where folks are already discussing a potential flip for Ricky Town.  Maybe this makes us even more appealing to Josh Rosen, who simply needs a visit to A2 to see a large contingent of tribe honies to make him feel at home.

dahblue

January 9th, 2014 at 11:28 AM ^

Oh, my gentile friend.  "Tribe" refers to the Jewish people; we often call ourselves "tribe" (members of the tribe).  "Honies" are attractive girls.  There are many "tribe honies" in Ann Arbor, and any self-respectiing Hebrew would notice the same.  Personally, I'd be psyched to see a Jewish QB as his nickname could only be "The Hebrew Hammer".

dieseljr32

January 9th, 2014 at 11:21 AM ^

Yeah there will be a competition, and if Shane improves so much over the off-season that he actually threatens to bench DG then that should be a win for the team because if you're looking optimistically that means the team now has a very competent backup.  

In the end though, I don't think there will be much of a competition because Gardner has many more tools than Shane does right now.  Of course, Shane will never have the legs DG does, but besides that why would they go with anyone but the guy who has started 1 1/2 years already? Unless, DG has regressed that badly and is so shell-shocked from last year he just can't be a starting quarterback.  Something that seems highly unlikely.

allintime23

January 9th, 2014 at 11:22 AM ^

I know I'm super positive, happy guy today but I see DG having a rg3 senior year type of season. Talents not the issue nor is heart. I'm still waiting for a few more changes that I know are coming. The O line will be much improved next year.

Adrian

January 9th, 2014 at 11:24 AM ^

I think the bench gardner crowd is the same crowd that wanted robinson benched. Its the same crowd that will never be happy regardless whos in at qb

SCarolinaMaize

January 9th, 2014 at 11:24 AM ^

What is the schedule for coaches and players direct contact / coaching this time of year?  How much time does he have to go over his playbook etc. before the spring camp?

Schembo

January 9th, 2014 at 11:24 AM ^

I don't think there is any way Morris starts over Gardner.  Gardner would have to be racking up the turnovers for that to happen, but it is possible that we could see Morris in stretches during games. 

UM in NC

January 9th, 2014 at 11:24 AM ^

I don't know of any examples of a true sophmore replacing a 5th yr senior with several school records and instances of carrying a team to victory almost single-handedly (ND).  

btjabrone

January 9th, 2014 at 11:27 AM ^

To clarify, I agree with most of the comments that this is still Gardner's job to lose, but I think it is worth discussing because I think the competition is more open than it was under Borges, simply because Nussmeier is less familiar with the two.  I also think tat this could mean Gardner is on a shorter leash if he struggles and we might see Morris go in for a few drives if things aren't going well.

I also agree that Gardner was not really the issue in 2013.  Fix the offensive line and Gardner will be great.

True Blue Grit

January 9th, 2014 at 11:28 AM ^

hopefully the new OC will have him running a lot less to protect his health.  Also, I think Nussmeier will get Gardner's passing skills to a new level, which will greatly help.  It will be interesting to see what he does with the receiving corp in terms of player development, formations, etc.  Alabama seemed to use a lot of different guys.  

umaz1

January 9th, 2014 at 11:29 AM ^

Even if Borges was back there would be a competition for the starting QB spot.  I defintely feel that Gardner would win out, but the competition will still be there.  Morris, Bellomy and Speight will push to make Gardner even better. 

blacknblue

January 9th, 2014 at 11:29 AM ^

I honestly heard somebody suggest that Morris should start at QB next year and Gardner should move back to receiver. I'm sure they had a reason but at that point I stopped listening.

LSAClassOf2000

January 9th, 2014 at 11:39 AM ^

"However, if Nussmeier is as good of a QB developer as advertised, we might finally see Gardner reaching his potential, like we've seen in a few games the past two years, more consistently." - from the OP

As others have mentioned, he was the OC for Jake Locker, so there is some experience in handling / developing QBs who are both good in the air and with their legs. Experience alone probably dictates that the job is Gardner's to lose, and I  doubt that there would be any real controversy. What you said here though strikes me as interesting - if Nussmeier can maximize the potential of Gardner, then there is every reason to let Shane shadow Gardner, if you will, for another year, as a much-improved performance here makes Shane that much better (and his bowl performance was encouraging) for the learning, in my opinion. 

Dustinlo

January 9th, 2014 at 11:40 AM ^

I think people believing that Nussmeier is head and shoulders above Borges in developing QB's is mistaken. Don't point to Denard (no hope) and one season of Devin to tell me how wrong I am. I just don't see Nussmeier coming in and making Devin a much more proficient passer.

umumum

January 9th, 2014 at 12:36 PM ^

Not sure (but optimistic) how much better Nussmeier will be as an OC, but I am comfortable that he will, in fact, be head and shoulders better than Borges as a QB developer---because (1) he couldn't be worse and (2) your dismissal of Denard as "no hope" says everything about where you are coming from.

Big_H

January 9th, 2014 at 11:43 AM ^

Sorry if this has already been clarified, but could someone tell me when Devin Gardner's foot will be healed? Will he be ready for spring ball!?!?

TheKing1085

January 9th, 2014 at 11:51 AM ^

I think it depends on the receiver and running back positions. If we need a receiver we can put Gardner back in that position and start developing Morris who has a laser for an arm. However if we can't get a runnning back to produce we will have to depend on Gardner's arm and legs.

Go Blue in MN

January 9th, 2014 at 12:14 PM ^

Just . . . no.  Devin is head and shoulders our best QB.  People overrated him at WR -- he really wasn't that good there.  Now, that may be because of limited experience, but he would still have limited experience at WR even if we moved him back there for 2014.  Devin will be our QB, our field general, for 2014, barring injury.

vablue

January 9th, 2014 at 12:56 PM ^

Devin is very talented, but he was prone to making a lot of mistakes. I find it quite hard to believe he is "head and shoulders" our best QB. And I would hope after going through the spring and summer that Morris will make it quite close.

Gardner was great at running and bailing us out of bad situations, but he was also great at putting us in those bad situations.

cozy200

January 9th, 2014 at 11:51 AM ^

A new offense everybody is a rookie. Doug is a lefty so that helps Shane, he knows mobile so that helps Devin. If they both get a fair shot, who knows?

JZ

January 9th, 2014 at 11:52 AM ^

I don't understand how some people on the board have said they 'hoped' Morris wouldn't play great in the bowl so as to create a QB controversey. That is ridiculous. Gardner is by and far the starter on this team, but a competent to decent backup Sophomore QB is very ideal, especially considering the delicate nature our QB depth was this past year. I think the new OC will be able to develop both QBs to excel at what they do best individualy, and if Morris is called up, he will hopefully be prepared. 

bubblelevel

January 9th, 2014 at 12:01 PM ^

Morris (or whoever is deemed #2) getting significant quality game experience.  Nuss is not going to head into 2015 with a guy who hasn't played enough.  He will have one eye on 2015 QB situation throughout the whole 2014 campaign. 

It's Gardner's unless he regresses, but either way you will see the understudy getting much more time.