Like most people, I was not expected much of a QB competition this spring. It seemed like it was Gardner's job to lose, barring injury. Now that we have a new pro-style OC coming in, without any history with either QB, I think it could open the QB competition in the spring. Shane Morris obviously has a lot of talent and showed good poise during the bowl game. However, if Nussmeier is as good of a QB developer as advertised, we might finally see Gardner reaching his potential, like we've seen in a few games the past two years, more consistently. Do you all think Gardner still has a big lead on Morris this spring?
Does Nussmeier Hire Open Up the QB Competition?
Every position should be open to competition.
The only people who believe there is a QB controversy at Michigan are media types who want to create a story and fans who haven't been paying attention.
Devin Gardner is a damn good QB, and Shane Morris is a QB with damn good potential.
Lost in the wreckage of the 2013 season is righteous praise for Gardner, who produced the second-highest passing yardage total in the history of the program behind an interior offensive line that was about as effective as pylons with string tied between them.
Unless Shane Morris makes a galactic leap in year two and/or Gardner regresses, it is DG's job, and DG's team.
Very well put! And let's not forget that an OC worth his salt can adapt his offense to the players he's got. Michigan has a terrific athlete in Devin Gardner. I hope Nuss can take advantage of Devin's talents.
DITTO, Ron Utah!
Well if Gardner is as good as you say, then he should have no trouble winning the competition between him and Morris, but there should definitely be one. He shouldn't just be handed the job. I saw too much of that with Toussaint being given the starting job at tailback simpley because he'd been there the longest, not for what he was doing on the field.
mean, it may hypothetically be open. But isn't DG by FAR the better option at this point? Do you really believe a coach will come in and see Shane as a better fit this year?
my opinion on other than the flashes Gardner has shown; yes he does have a big lead. Very excited to see what he can do with competent QB coaching.
They will compete - Gardner will win.
I would assume it would have been an open competition regardless. But still think Devin wins the comp either way.
Shane's performance game a good data point suggesting that the future is bright and that we have a non-Feagin class backup if Devin gets injured next year (which hopefully won't happen behind an improved OL), but Gardner still looked like the superior quarterback to me.
I was glad Morris looked okay in the bowl game, but I was hoping his performance was underwhelming enough to prevent stupid threads like this from forming.
I fail to see how the Nussmeier hire alone changes anything about QB competition. The "bench Gardner" crowd was wronger than wrong during the season and that really hasn't changed.
a stupid thread. With a new OC coming in one never knows what shakeups could occur. This thread is no worse than the "general feeling/optimism changed" thread from earlier. That one is Caption Obvious's dream thread.
I agree. It's a good thread. My opinion on the matter is that it is a firm "no" but I can see where this could open up a conversation.
on this blog someone must ALWAYS call the thread stupid. It's mandatory.
You were actually hoping he would underwhelm so as to prevent threads on a blog? I hoped Morris would set the world on fire in that game for Michigan. Let the internets do whatever. The existence of an internet thread has never impacted my real life anywhere near as much as actual Michigan football.
On second read it looks like you were saying the performance that happened not that you hoped he would underwhelm from the start. In which case my above comment is not directed at you but anyone who might have felt that way.
And I appreciate you re-reading my comment.
I hope the hire doesn't change the QB competition, but only because I would expect it to be open and spirited regardless of the OC. I also happen to believe that Gardner wins the competition.
Gardner has more than one flaw, he is far from perfect. Like any normal human being, having to stay ahead of the competition won't hurt him a bit.
Nussmeier is not an idiot, Gardner will start. Keith Price never started for Jake Locker even with Jake's accuracy issues.
Nussmeier was the OC for Jake Locker at Washington, I think he can handle a dual threat type QB. DG is by far the best option and while I am sure there will be competition, I don't think Nussmeier will shoot himself in the foot.
I was about to say this exact thing. He has experience coaching a dual threat and I think we will see some real improvement out of Gardners game. If nothing else, the running game should get better and relieve some pressure on him.
And ultimately chose the more mobile Kieth Price over the less mobile Montana kid at Washington in that competition. He may actually prefer a dual threat QB to Borges' statuesque preference (if that was indeed his preference, not exactly clear). To echo everything above, hard to see DG still not being clearly the choice at QB.
says this about Nussmeier, " He is one of only three quarterbacks in NCAA history to throw for at least 10,000 yards and rush for 1,000 yards (1,230), joining Alcorn State's Steve McNair (1991–94) and Central Florida's Daunte Culpepper (1996–98)."
I would venture to say that he appreciates a QB who can do something with the football when the play breaks down, and who has the athleticism to add an additional dimension to the game plan.
QB competition, yes. It can only make the players better. I believe Shane can give Devin a strong run for the starting position. But in the end, I think Devin's seniority and/or experience will probably give him a slight edge.
The poor guy was put in impossible positions. He is going to have 25 TDs and 5 INTs this year.
with 6 rushing.
I don't know. I think that the separation between the two is too much. Gardner has more experience and has just as high a ceiling as Shane. Do you remember the hype that Gardner got in the offseason? I think we saw glimpses of it this year, but if he stays healthy, he may be making a visit to New York. I think he has that much upside. A lot of that is contingent on the big uglies up front, though.
I agree, and I think we saw more than glimpses. DG had two problems last year - lack of protection, which wasn't his fault, and poor decision making at times, which was. The decision making was a problem, but one that is common in a QBs first full year as a starter, and one that tapered off as the season progressed.
If DG can pick up where he left off from a mental standpoint, and our line can give him better protection (having more of a run/pass balance will also help so that teams don't sell out) I agree he has a Heisman finalist-type ceiling.
Sure Nussmeier is going to look at all the QB's on the roster and evaluate. But, DG is the better option at this point. The only reason Shane would start over him would be if the new OC wanted to install a Pro-Style offense, and DG just couldn't run it. That is not the case IMO. I think DG is a great fit as a Pro-Style QB, especially if you can mix some spread aspects in there too.
Just keep him clean, and don't roll him out to the left, and he should be great next season.
It was already going to be a competition. Granted, it was (and probably still is) a competition that Gardner most likely will win. I mean, we're not talking about true sophomores Denard and Tate competing; we're talking about a true sophomore vs. a 5th year senior. Not only that, but Gardner can do things with his legs that every other QB on the roster can only dream of.
If Gardner isn't the starting QB next year, it's because Morris has a 90% DSR in practice. The bigger question, to me at least, is what does Nussmeier do with Funchess and some of the position players that no longer have a position in this offense (FBs).
I don't think we will run a 1-back system just because that's what he ran at Bama. Looks like Nussmeier will adapt to different offenses based on what the program wants, and the player fits. If he can use FBs effectively, the will still have a place in this offense IMO.
I would assume at this point that we probably won't see many FBs next year just because FBs are functionally an outdated concept that has limited to no use in any modern offense when there are more effective ways to fill that player slot on the field in nearly every offense in existence.
I don't think Nussmeier comes in and runs a one-back because it's what he ran at 'Bama, I think he comes in and runs a one-back because another wide receiver or tight end gives them a better chance for success on basically every play.
Nussmeier also used an H-back in his offense at Bama, so some of the fullback types on our roster now might be used that way.
I expect Funchess to be a WR until he graduates. He's now halfway through his career here and hasn't really practiced at TE for a while. They were somewhat forcing TE on him because of the lack of TEs on the roster, but now that Butt has emerged, AJ Williams is coming into his own, Khalid Hill is off his redshirt and Bunting is here (or will be) you might as well just throw in the towel and call Funchess a full on WR.
I can't understand why anyone would've downvoted you for this post.
Wait- did I miss something?? Doesn't Alabama utilize their FB's?? Or was Fowler an actual RB? I thought he was their full back when they did things out of the I-formation and offset I-formation... maybe I'm wrong there, that's just what I thought.
No. Simply No.
Why, as a fanbase that has been crying about how young we are at every important position on the field, do we keep trying to push Gardner out the door in favor of a to-be sophmore? Gardner is so much better than Morris at this point, he is a fifth year senior, and he basically single-handedly carried the offense this year. Imagine what he'll do with a real offensive coordinator who knows how to build an offense to its talent?
I amazed at people that think Shane Morris has any chance (or deserves any chance) at starting over Devin Gardner based on what happened in 2013.
Could Devin have lingering foot problems and could Shane make a 'Denard Robinson-esque' leap in his sophomore offseason to change my sentence above? Yes. Absolutely.
But to make this point right now when none of that is known? Ridiculous. I mean, for fuck's sake - Devin gave his heart and soul to the team this year, culminating in playing against OSU in the second half with a broken fucking foot. Anyone clamoring for Shane to get his chance right now needs to remove their head from their ass.
in spite of a sieve of an OL. Gardner also had record #s against a less talented Indiana.
How about we keep the fabulous and lose the sieve? That's what Nussmeier should be working on.
I'm not anti-Gardner, but no one on offense deserves to be given a job after last year. I think he can be great, but I also think lighting a fire under him with competition will benefit everyone. He can and should step up to the plate.
I'm sure there will be a 'competition'...but DG will be the starter. Morris has a ways to go yet before be hops in there. DG is a solid option, for this year. But after a year with a good QB coach...Morris will be better prepared for next year.
for the number of times Michigan beat reporters note that Shane is a lefty and Coach Nuss is left-handed and played quarterback?
Already seen at least seven mentions on twitter.
But we can have a quicker bet and get an answer at the presser this afternoon: how many questions in before one of the beat reporters notes this? I say 7
There certainly will be competition. It's only logical to assume that would happen with any new OC hire that has not had any prior experience with any of our four scholarship QBs.
That said I would guess the job is still Gardner's to lose. Although, in the long run, Shane or Wilton may have more upside and fit the typical 'pro style mold', without a doubt Devin gives us the best chance of success in '14.
Barring an injury or setback I would imagine Devin will start his RS Senior season at Michigan. I would also suspect that his numbers improve. (most were very good this season)
If Shane does beat him out then that could be a positive for the team in the long run but I do not foresee that happening in '14.
Eiter way a little competition is always a good thing when building depth and team
talent. Here's to hoping alone with those developments we begin to develop a true identity on O.
DG is a 5th year senior... We will not see the new 'old 98' on the sideline this season.
What in the last time we saw Devin Gardner on the field makes you think that he wouldn't be the starter? I mean, coaches will always have competition for spots, but come on, the guy led our offense to that many points against OSU with a broken foot for half the game. I put the chances of Gardner not starting as whatever the percent chance is of Gardner being hurt and unable to start.
I still can't see how Morris would start over Gardner. Gardner still shows the bigger playmaking ability and with a little help from his OC he could put up some amazing numbers. I'm not saying Morris can't but at this point Gardner is still a clear QB1 in my mind
If Shane Morris started every game of 2013, we win 1-3 games. Gardner was our entire offense. What's more, he sacrificed his foot for Michigan. He will start.
is will his hire result in a functional offensive line that can move the ball 1 god damn yard when they need it?
no but having another year of S&C and coaching for the young guys will help a ton
Along with the dismal results, that Borges waited until late in the season to simplify the schemes shows a coaching staff that was out-of-touch (or stubbornly, willfully ignorant) with what was happening in the trenches.
I think we go with the guy who led 3 4th quarter TD drives against Ohio with minimal help from his offensive line on a broken foot.
This does open the competition but as others said....it should be open regardless. Both should improve over the Spring, Summer, and Fall going into the season with this guy.
If Devin does win the job, he won't have as much slack if they are strugling. I really don't know how Devin will react considering he seemed to be a shell of himself after they lost a couple games and lost confidence. He played well aginst ohio but November was an ugly month.
I think the starting position is up to Devin to decide.
am much more worried about the competion and improvement on the offensive line. If it remains a tire fire, we might end up having no choice but to see both get blugeoned to death.
I don't know what "tribe honies" are or even could be, but it sounds vaguely racist.
I was actually as confused by the "honies"( I read it as rhyming with "ponies") as I was with the use of tribe as an adjective. I believe the plural of honey is "Honeys".
That must be some serious slang, 'cause Google hasn't even ever heard of "tribe honies" before... Though they do suggest that maybe I had a stroke and really meant "tribe honeys", not that it knows what that is either.
Agreed. Swing him by AEPhi or SDT and I promise he'll have a good time.
easier to grasp if you had used "honeys".
Yeah there will be a competition, and if Shane improves so much over the off-season that he actually threatens to bench DG then that should be a win for the team because if you're looking optimistically that means the team now has a very competent backup.
In the end though, I don't think there will be much of a competition because Gardner has many more tools than Shane does right now. Of course, Shane will never have the legs DG does, but besides that why would they go with anyone but the guy who has started 1 1/2 years already? Unless, DG has regressed that badly and is so shell-shocked from last year he just can't be a starting quarterback. Something that seems highly unlikely.
I know I'm super positive, happy guy today but I see DG having a rg3 senior year type of season. Talents not the issue nor is heart. I'm still waiting for a few more changes that I know are coming. The O line will be much improved next year.
Gardner wins the position for 2014, but Michigan has a fine option in Soph. Shane Morris when needed.
I think the bench gardner crowd is the same crowd that wanted robinson benched. Its the same crowd that will never be happy regardless whos in at qb
I don't agree with that.
Was there that many people who wanted Gardner benched last year? I was on this board and I don't remember that many.
What is the schedule for coaches and players direct contact / coaching this time of year? How much time does he have to go over his playbook etc. before the spring camp?
I don't think there is any way Morris starts over Gardner. Gardner would have to be racking up the turnovers for that to happen, but it is possible that we could see Morris in stretches during games.
I don't know of any examples of a true sophmore replacing a 5th yr senior with several school records and instances of carrying a team to victory almost single-handedly (ND).
To clarify, I agree with most of the comments that this is still Gardner's job to lose, but I think it is worth discussing because I think the competition is more open than it was under Borges, simply because Nussmeier is less familiar with the two. I also think tat this could mean Gardner is on a shorter leash if he struggles and we might see Morris go in for a few drives if things aren't going well.
I also agree that Gardner was not really the issue in 2013. Fix the offensive line and Gardner will be great.
hopefully the new OC will have him running a lot less to protect his health. Also, I think Nussmeier will get Gardner's passing skills to a new level, which will greatly help. It will be interesting to see what he does with the receiving corp in terms of player development, formations, etc. Alabama seemed to use a lot of different guys.
It was not the running where Gardner got the most punishment, it was in the backfield getting sacked. Ultimately he needs better protection and the ability to step up in the pocket or get rid of the ball faster.
Even if Borges was back there would be a competition for the starting QB spot. I defintely feel that Gardner would win out, but the competition will still be there. Morris, Bellomy and Speight will push to make Gardner even better.
I honestly heard somebody suggest that Morris should start at QB next year and Gardner should move back to receiver. I'm sure they had a reason but at that point I stopped listening.
I hope Shane improves enough to make it a competition. Devins going to start, hopefully with a new number.
"However, if Nussmeier is as good of a QB developer as advertised, we might finally see Gardner reaching his potential, like we've seen in a few games the past two years, more consistently." - from the OP
As others have mentioned, he was the OC for Jake Locker, so there is some experience in handling / developing QBs who are both good in the air and with their legs. Experience alone probably dictates that the job is Gardner's to lose, and I doubt that there would be any real controversy. What you said here though strikes me as interesting - if Nussmeier can maximize the potential of Gardner, then there is every reason to let Shane shadow Gardner, if you will, for another year, as a much-improved performance here makes Shane that much better (and his bowl performance was encouraging) for the learning, in my opinion.
I think people believing that Nussmeier is head and shoulders above Borges in developing QB's is mistaken. Don't point to Denard (no hope) and one season of Devin to tell me how wrong I am. I just don't see Nussmeier coming in and making Devin a much more proficient passer.
Not sure (but optimistic) how much better Nussmeier will be as an OC, but I am comfortable that he will, in fact, be head and shoulders better than Borges as a QB developer---because (1) he couldn't be worse and (2) your dismissal of Denard as "no hope" says everything about where you are coming from.
He didn't just have one season of Devin. He coached him three years, and Devin started 1.5 of them. His track record at developing QBs is a mixed bag - some successes, some failures.
Nussmeier's track record at developing QBs is pretty much universally positive.
Sorry if this has already been clarified, but could someone tell me when Devin Gardner's foot will be healed? Will he be ready for spring ball!?!?
He was the champion, leader, and hero of the offense.
Gallon was the MVP.
because it means we probably have ourselves a good back-up next year. DG and Shane will compete, and DG will win it no questions asked
Gardner is the starting QB barring injury.
I think it depends on the receiver and running back positions. If we need a receiver we can put Gardner back in that position and start developing Morris who has a laser for an arm. However if we can't get a runnning back to produce we will have to depend on Gardner's arm and legs.
There's almost no chance that Gardner is a better option at WR than what we can pull from our depth there.
Just . . . no. Devin is head and shoulders our best QB. People overrated him at WR -- he really wasn't that good there. Now, that may be because of limited experience, but he would still have limited experience at WR even if we moved him back there for 2014. Devin will be our QB, our field general, for 2014, barring injury.
Devin is very talented, but he was prone to making a lot of mistakes. I find it quite hard to believe he is "head and shoulders" our best QB. And I would hope after going through the spring and summer that Morris will make it quite close.
Gardner was great at running and bailing us out of bad situations, but he was also great at putting us in those bad situations.
A new offense everybody is a rookie. Doug is a lefty so that helps Shane, he knows mobile so that helps Devin. If they both get a fair shot, who knows?
I don't understand how some people on the board have said they 'hoped' Morris wouldn't play great in the bowl so as to create a QB controversey. That is ridiculous. Gardner is by and far the starter on this team, but a competent to decent backup Sophomore QB is very ideal, especially considering the delicate nature our QB depth was this past year. I think the new OC will be able to develop both QBs to excel at what they do best individualy, and if Morris is called up, he will hopefully be prepared.
Morris (or whoever is deemed #2) getting significant quality game experience. Nuss is not going to head into 2015 with a guy who hasn't played enough. He will have one eye on 2015 QB situation throughout the whole 2014 campaign.
It's Gardner's unless he regresses, but either way you will see the understudy getting much more time.
graduating McCarron 336 attempts--reserves 29. Gardner will start. Morris will get snaps as scores dictate. I see nothing in Nussmeier's past to suggest he'll get the backup QB extra snaps.
Is not MCCarron. This mindset of play the Sr is killing us. See Futz for zero yards. I think Gardner will hold the position but I'd like to see a competition. Didn't think do prior to BW3 Bowl.
I am big advocate of backup QBs getting more time than they typically do. My point is that Nussmeier has never shown a tendency to do so. Finding spots for backups to get more time has nothing to do with whether (you think) McCarron is better than Gardner---in fact the opposite would be true--as Alabama was in a position score-wise to play the backup earlier than Michigan. Since McCarron was graduating, why do you suppose the backup didn't get more reps in Alabama blowouts?
So your argument is simply that you think Morris should start or that there should be a shared position with Morris getting snaps when the game is on the line. I, and most here, disagree with you. I don't believe there will be a QB controversy or even a genuine competition. If you think otherwise, then I believe you grossly underrate Gardner and overrate Morris's bowl performance.
That worked so well this year coming back against Akron and Utah leading to a burned RS and no experience.
No experience? I seem to recall him playing in the bowl.
I'm not as concerned about the competition between the two. I just want to see Nussmeier DEVELOP them to max potential.
Nothing to see here.
I don't care who starts between Gardner and Morris as long as whoever is on the field gives us the best chance to win. That being said, I think for now you have to give the edge to Gardner. He's got the experience, the mental toughness (not that Shane doesn't, but come on, playing the whole OSU game with a broken foot?), and with his mobility, he opens the playbook up a little more.
As long as Nussmeier can get the full potential out of both of them, this'll be a good problem to have.
Gardner was 75% of our offense. The only realistic way Morris starts at QB in 2014 is if Gardner gets hurt. That is no slam on Morris--he looks like he has the tools to be quite good. But Gardner is a 5th year senior who has played incredibly well at times. Unless he just melts down for some reason or gets hurt, he is going to be our QB.
We balance the offense .
It will be a 2QB system until one stands out.
We need to start turning the program around. No player is bigger than the team. Not even the upperclassman. Hoke mindset needs to evolve.
Where has this supposed Hoke mindset manifest?
We have young guys starting over older guys all over the football field.
I suspect this has to do with Fitz being the starter. DERRICK GREEN REPORTED TO CAMP OVERWEIGHT. HE WAS NEVER GOING TO START AFTER THAT. HE WAS BEING PUNSIHED ANS BEING MADE TO EARN HIS SNAPS. Contrarily, Fitz rehabbed his ass off to come back from a horrendous injury.
I didn't know this was a secret, but it seems like it is. Coaches expect players to hold up their end of the bargain. Being good at football is not enough sometimes. You also have to be, for example, at a weight the coaches want you at. Or not on drugs. Or whatever. If you don't comply, you don't play.
will cure Gardner of the Yackity-Sack scrambles on passing plays. Then we can turn those -19 yard losses into -7 yard sacks by stepping up into the pocket.
He will do a competition to do his own evaluation of the players, but I would imagine that Devin would win out in the end. He is the more experienced of the two and has the higher ceiling for production with his mobility.
The two are different types of QB's. Morris would have to clearly outplay Gardner for him to take over in my opinion. However they are both too good of athletes for one to sit the bench. I think it depends upon where Gardner thinks his best bet is for the NFL.
Great thing is there will actually be competition that should allow the new OC to open the playbook.
I would expect Gardner to win the job, but it will be interesting to see where Morris is given he effectively did not play his senior year of HS and could not enroll early. Also, having Bellomy back, along with Speight enrolling early and looking to have significant upside, it should really allow for competition and not as much "thinking" about only having one proven QB and concern for making play calls (not that DG did not get abused all year anyway, but many hits could have been avoided through quick passing and not using naked boots/play action when the running game just did not work)
The new OC should be able to push the envelope on play calling and exploit more of DGs ability to run and throw. With both Morris and Bellomy are on the sidelines along with Speight getting the benefit of spring to continue to develop, it should only make all of them better players.
if he brings his 1-back proclivity, Shallman may be in the mix for real playing time. similar to BJ Askew's role during his time in Blue or Mike Alstott in TB.
I may be crazy but I also think Justice Hayes may have a real shot at #1. his game just seems more well rounded than Smith and Green in terms of run/pass flexibility.
I thought Hayes was destined to move to WR. I figured he was going to fill the Drew Dileo role and split time with Norfleet; however, after the bowl game, I wouldn't mind seeing Hayes/Green/Johnson/Smith compete for the 2 RB positions.
Of course there's a competition.
But we're fooling ourselves if we think Morris has a real shot at beating Devin. Morris was surprisingly good in his one start, but come on folks, he's still nowhere near where Devin is at.
Now, if Devin somehow turns into Andrew Maxwell at the start of next season and is THAT awful, well obviously go to the young guy. But let's be honest here...that ain't happening. Devin is really good. He was really bad at times this year. But...he got shell-shocked into fear of throwing picks combined with a terrible pass protection. It was the perfect storm. He worked through it though, or else there's no way to explain how the Ohio game happend.
So, yeah, there's competition. But it's not a very close competition, honestly. I think it's easy to see why starting a very talented 5th year senior is more preferable to starting a very talented true sophomore.
Fair question, if you ask me. Gardner is good, and his mobility gives him a tool that Morris will never have. Gardner has the arm and all the physical attributes you want in your QB. Really smart guy, too. I like Gardner a lot.
That said, Shane's pocket presence in his first start was better than I've ever seen from Gardner. Shane has a helluva arm, too, and leadership qualities to boot. We'll see.
Couldn't we Red-shirt Morris in 2014? Couldn't Gardner/Bellomy shoulder the QB and Back-up QB roles? Or is it imminent that we have 3 able-bodied QB's? I personaly feel that if we were to Red-shirt Morris, the depth chart would look like this...
Devin Gardner- RS SR
Russell Bellomy- RS JR
Shane Morris- RS FR
Wilton Speight- FR (Assuming a RS)
leading into the future with a QB in every class now...
2015 depth by class
Russell Bellomy- RS SR
Shane Morris- RS SO
Wilton Speight- RS FR
[insert True Freshmen here]
If I'm way off- then downvote away, but I just feel that would be the best way to build depth, unless we do in fact take another QB in this 2014 class- in that case, this is a moot point.
I think it would be a brilliant move to redshirt Shane. That gives him a year to learn a new offensive system and potentially 3 years to run it. What makes me nervous is that Hoke doesn't seem keen on using redshirts though.
Only if Bellomy is better. Otherwise no. You want the best player to be ready to go if the starter gets hurt. If playing player X over player Y gets you a win or the opposite may cost you a game, you chose the result now, not the redshirt. If they're about equal, then I'm all for it. If not, it's not the smarter choice.
Here is one for the people that see black helicopters
before the bowl game he had the Twitter & Instagram name of @qu9rter8ack
after the bowl he changed it to @DevG98
2900+ yards, 20+ TDs, and Michigan record books for passing...
I'm sure Shane will push Devin, but there's not a chance this is actually a competition Shane wins. You can't bench that kind of production with the whole "guy who can vince young you on 3rd and long" aspect.
Nuss has PLENTY to work with in DG, and his background suggests Devin's multiple skillsets are well within his comfort zone.
This should be a great pairing.
There won't be a QB competition you're going to play your 5th year senior. Just for the simple fact that he can read defenses better than a sophomore.
Remember the pre-season hype and compliments from George Whitfield and the Manning camp? DG made A LOT happen this year - AND he was hurt! The praise was from people in the know. I am looking forward to this upcoming year and the progress the whole team is going to make.
Like others have said this would be a great opportunity for Shane to have a year to learn a new system and potentially run it for 3 years. They have a 5th year senior quarterback they can utilize the first year, they should take advantage of it.
when this board debated whether to hold Shane out of blowout Ws like Central, Akron (!), and Uconn (!) to preserve his redshirt. Hoke obviously sided with those who said that your top backup must be used in garbage time to give him experience if called upon in a pinch. I expect him to take the same approach in 2014, meaning that Bellomy would have to beat out Shane for Shane to be redshirted. I don't expect that to happen, but I don't think it's a crazy idea either.
say it all together now: Devin is the QB.