Urban Meyer lied to five hookers while at Utah.
chance of bowl: 13.6%
Urban Meyer lied to five hookers while at Utah.
Hopefully Dunn is smart enough to see past those lies...
He will hear what he wants to hear: that OSU is in the clear and back to being viable.
Let it go.
If you're desperately looking for running backs from Ohio to flaunt, Fitz and Shaw are from Ohio.
OSU knows exactly what is going to happen to them (nothing) and I believe Meyer is being truthful when he says it. Two facts to consider:
1. Why would even take the jon unless he KNEW the fix was in?
2. Why would OSU take such a public stance of defiance unless they KNEW there would be no repercussions to their actions?
I defy anyone to find even one instance where OSU has faced anything resembling a consequence yet-and they won't.
I hope both of their coaching staffs suck eggs.
He wants to go to ohio. He has been looking for a reason to do so all along. So he chooses to believe whatever (likely cleverly and ambiguously stated) report he got from Meyer on the sanctions. Let him go. I don't recall a blue chip RB on the '97 National Champions, but I do recall a dominant defense. Get us another CB or DL!
Or, honestly stated . Eff-ing NCAA. I would be sympathetic to the "Don't punish the current untatooed players and new coach for the mistakes of others" but for the fact that they have kept the horribly incompetent AD in place with a salary boost to boot.
I thought Gee (president) got the raise? Did Smith get one too?
We will be just fine without him. Did I want him and hear that he was going to UM? Yes. But that's not reality. I'd love to pick up a DB or another OL. Hoke and Co. know what they are doing. Besides, Fitz ended the regular season very well. I had my questions about him, but those were quickly forgotten. We will be just fine without Dunn
Pass the ether. I need a break from everyday struggle.
When the announcement of the sactions is finally made......
...URBAN MEYER! *ding, next category*
Isn't this the same thing Lane Kiffen told Santreal Henderson before he committed to USC?
How did that work out for him?
I have zero issue with Dunn. He was an Ohio commit to begin with. We didn't "have" him. We never had him. He was keeping his options open until he found out what was going to happen. UM gave him the answer he wanted to hear, and he re-committed.
That UM knows the outcome is pretty unsettling. Yeah, I know life isn't fair, and all that. But if this is the case - that certain schools have the NCAA in their pocket, that the NCAA doesn't do its best to provide a level playing field, etc and so forth - then it's the NCAA that should be investigated. Or the NCAA needs to present itself to the college world in a more honest way, not as some impartial governing body that preserves sportsmanship and ethics in college sports.
On this board at least, you really need to come up with another identifier for Urban Meyer.
"UM gave him the answer he wanted to hear, and he re-committed." At first I thought you were talking about us. He re-comitted? When did he comitt in the first place? Wait, no, oh . . . i see what you did.
from the "over practicing" violations are almost on par with whatever OSU is going to be hit with - save for the eradication of 2010 from the record books.
How does this program not get MAJOR penalties? They've been lying and cheating for almost 10 years!!!! They should lose scholarships AND get at least a one-year bowl ban!
Can Meyer go after Michigan recruits from Ohio? Kali, Joe, and others? it's gonna get ugly if Meyer does that.
Kalis turned him down. Bolden already has his classes picked out to enroll early at Michigan. It doesn't look like any of Michigan's commits are going to be poached.
Has any coach tried to poach other teams' players after they enrolled? Is that against NCAA rules?
You can't recruit guys to try to get them to transfer. USC RB Dillon Baxter alleged that Oregon contacted him and tried to get him to transfer when the SC stuff was blowing up, but nothing ever came of it . It ended up seeming like Baxter just made the allegation up, but Oregon would have violated an NCAA rule had they in fact contacted him at that time.
If any of our current recruits ended up being turncoats. I've been wrong before, but I'm not seeing that happening. Especially now if they go on any OSU board and see the names they're getting called - they're not gonna feel any warm and fuzzies to the hairless nuts.
I may be mistaken, but I thought Dunn was going to be an early enrollee. If so, Meyer's claims only need to hold up until Dunn starts classes, right? After that, he's hooked even if it turns out not to be a true statement.
He's no longer going to be an EE.
the self imposed penalty was pretty pathetic and I would be very surprised if the NCAA goes with it. Even for as small as our penalty was they added on one more year of probation vs. 2 scholarships for about 3 years for Ohio. Heads will roll if they accept OSU's self imposed sanctions.
and Gene Smith's background and influence with the compliance dept., there is essentially zero chance for anything other than a limp slap on the wrist for OSU. Meyer knows it, the players know it, the fans know it, and the media know it. To pretend otherwise is just a kabuki dance to give the impression that the NCAA is honestly examining things. If they can't figure out if anything's wrong down at Auburn, they sure as hell aren't going to take any real meaningful steps in Columbus.
Emmert is going to preside over the final end stages of the NCAA, at least with respect to it having any real influence on major college football. It's the wild, wild west, and anything goes.
Is it possible that Gee keeps his job precisely because of his relationship with Emmert? Regents and boosters and whoever else pulls the strings must love that.