Does Georgia have to lose...
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:01 PM ^
basically, yes.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:31 PM ^
not necessarily.
TCU needs to be a top 16 team to get an auto bid.
So, Michigan still goes despite a georgia win if they break the top 14, which only happens if:
Scenario 1:
1) Houston AND MSU/Wisc loser drops below Michigan (and doesn't get jumped by Baylor)
2) Two of: Baylor, Houston, MSU/Wisc loser stay above TCU (but still behind MIchigan)
Scenario 2:
Bama or LSU get jumped by Okie State for the BCS title game
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:45 PM ^
Scenario 2 is the only viable option. If LSU loses this game and they and Bama are still 1-2 they go to the title game and Georgia gets the autobid to the Sugar Bowl. Michigan making it into the top-14 won't help if there are no spots available.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:03 PM ^
LSU's defense has a case to be ranked number one with a loss..
LSU's offense has a case to be ranked real low with a loss..
..defaintly not a number one team if they can't get a first down in the first half..
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:32 PM ^
Unfortunately we don't rank teams offenses and defenses separately.
Otherwise #1 Houston/Alabama would be playing #2 Baylor/LSU
I would pay a lot of money to see that game btw.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:05 PM ^
LSU's defense has a case to be ranked number one with a loss..
LSU's offense has a case to be ranked real low with a loss..
..defaintly not a number one team if they can't get a first down in the first half..
1st half : 12 total yards LSU
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:19 PM ^
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:02 PM ^
I'm not sure but I'm worried.
This link may kinda help, not sure how accurate it is:
http://www.sports-ratings.com/college_football/2011/11/2011-2012-bcs-bo…
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:02 PM ^
Not basically, yes.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:02 PM ^
No, we need LSU to get their head out of their asses is what we need.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:02 PM ^
If Georgia wins, and the national championship game is still LSU/Bama, there will be no available at large BCS spots for any team. All 10 spots will be going to teams that are guaranteed a bid.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:05 PM ^
3 SEC teams cannot play in the BCS bowls
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:10 PM ^
If 2 teams from the same conference are in the national championship game, and neither is the conference champ, the conference champ still gets to go to a BCS game. If Georgia wins and LSU/Bama is the champ game, Georgia still gets a BCS bid.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:21 PM ^
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:18 PM ^
Under the rule that if a conference has the #1 and #2 teams and neither win their conference. So Georgia would be the SEC auto-bid while LSU and Bama would take at-large spots.
Also, if Iowa State can beat K-State (currently down 7 in 4th quarter) we would still be in after a Georgia win.
Edit: Iowa State lost...
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:06 PM ^
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:10 PM ^
They're in the top 4 of the BCS standings, and therefore guaranteed a bid.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:16 PM ^
however, if LSU loses and OK St wins, i think OK St gets the nat'l title game if they beat Okla. then LSU would be out of the BCS. correct?
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:17 PM ^
neutral field win over Oregon, win over WVU in Morgantown, win over Bama in Tuscaloosa, win over Arkansas.
If LSU is not in the national championship game it will be a massive error. If any SEC team falls out it should be Alabama.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:42 PM ^
it should be Alabama." Really? I see Alabama as the 2nd best team in the country. Who is your #2?
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:58 PM ^
Alabama lost to LSU at home. They may be the 2nd best team in the nation but so were we in 2006 and we lost on the road. I wouldn't be upset if Bama was in the title game but I'm not sure they deserve another shot since they lost at home to the #1 team already. Either way, whatever. If I was to give it to someone else it would be Okie St or Stanford.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:00 PM ^
He's responding to someone talking about Ok State getting a shot at the national title. The implication is that if you are going to put Ok St in the title game the SEC school that should drop out of that would be Alabama as opposed to LSU. Unfortunately for Alabama if they aren't in the title game they aren't in the BCS because Georgia would be taking the second SEC bid.
I kind of think if Georgia wins then Alabama should be knocked out of the title game. They didn't win the SEC and they didn't even represent their division. If Georgia wins then it basically shows that LSU is beatable. If LSU is beatable why be subjected to a rematch with a team they already proved they could beat? LSU's resume is very impressive so they belong in the title game regardless of the outcome of the SEC title game. This wouldn't be a situation where there are a ton of one loss teams and one undefeated team who happened to beat one of those one-loss teams (like 2006). So if Georgia wins I think I'd much rather see one-loss LSU versus one loss Ok St. for the national title. Now if Ok St. loses tonight it changes things drastically.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:06 PM ^
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:03 PM ^
I don't get why we NEED Georgia to lose now. Houston will fall out of the top 14, and lump that in with one other team ahead losing due to the B1G game and we jump two spots into thhe top 14.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:01 PM ^
Merely being in the top 14 doesn't guarantee us a spot. There has to be a BCS slot available.
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:18 PM ^
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:40 PM ^
LSU, Bama, Georgia, Oregon, MSU/Wisc, OSU/OU, VaTech/Clemson, WVU, TCU, Stanford. That is 10 guaranteed teams if LSU and Bama are still in the title game and TCU makes it into the top 16. There is no room for at-large teams.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:04 PM ^
No. We take rankings vacated by Houston and either MSU or Wisky. I don't know why anyone sees it otherwise. Voters will drop a 3-loss Sparty team, no question. And nobody will vote Houston into a BCS position.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:05 PM ^
I agree with this, but no one else seems to agree. I just dot see how Houston could get in without winning their conference.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:12 PM ^
What about TCU? Them beating UNLV isn't going to jump them two spots over Michigan.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:13 PM ^
they just have to be in the top 16. If a non-automatical qualifying school is ranked in the top 16, and is ranked above the conference champion from an automatic qualifying conference (West Virginia), and there is no higher ranked automatic qualifying team (which there won't be because Houston lost), that school is guaranteed a bid.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:22 PM ^
So would the Big East get shut out of the BCS? If that happened I'd be pretty OK with it.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:24 PM ^
what it would mean is that all 10 BCS slots go to teams that are guaranteed a bid. There will be no at large teams. Under the rules, the 6 conference champions, LSU, Alabama, TCU, and Stanford (top 4 in the BCS standings) would all be guaranteed a slot. No at large teams, Michigan goes to the Cap One Bowl.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:05 PM ^
Its not about top 14. With Georgia winning SEC should get three spots plus TCU in the top 16 leaves no spots left. No room at the table regardless of our ranking.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:22 PM ^
Yes, it has nothing to do with top 14 anymore (probably).
It is now only about available at large spots
This seems to be lost on a LOT of people
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:06 PM ^
they are GUARANTEED a bid under the rules because they're ranked ahead of WVU. In that scenario, LSU, Georgia, Bama, TCU, Stanford (top 4 of standings), Oregon, Va Tech, WVU, winner of Wisky/MSU, and the winner of OSU/Oklahoma are all guaranteed bids.
There are no at large bids for anyone in that scenario.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:47 PM ^
Voters are always looking for the undefeateds like Houston (Boise St in prior years), so they can say "see, they were only unbeaten b/c of their schedule". Michigan will leapfrog Houston, and rightfully so.
If Sparty loses, and I believe they WILL lose, I can't WAIT to see the Sparty tears if/when Michigan moves ahead of them. They will be DELICIOUS!
December 3rd, 2011 at 6:00 PM ^
I agree with you but I think people are wqorried about Baylor jumping us.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:04 PM ^
Yep...
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:04 PM ^
LSU has 11 total yards. wtf?
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:04 PM ^
I dont understand why it makes a difference...Houston dropping out of the top 14 and either MSU or Wisconsin dropping out puts us at 14. 14 and we are in. Georgia winnng makes no difference because only 2 sec teams can go to bcs games. LSU or Bama would get screwed.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:08 PM ^
I thought I've been hearing that there could be 3 this year
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:13 PM ^
I thought the rules were that only two teams per sonference can be in BCS games?
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:08 PM ^
LSU and Alabama go to the National champ game as 1 & 2. The only way this doesn't happen is if Okie State jumps Bama and Bama is no longer in the champ game.
I suppose the other way we could get in with Georgia winning would only be if TCU did not make it into the top 16. I''m not sure how likely that is to happen though.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:08 PM ^
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:10 PM ^
It assumes that Michigan can't make the top 14 without Georgia losing for one thing. (And puts Kansas State into the Sugar Bowl).
I believe if Georgia wins, if Michigan can still sneak into the top 14 (which could happen still with a Houston loss, an MSU/Wisconsin loss, maybe a Kansas State loss, maybe an Oklahoma loss), then Michigan and Stanford are battling for a single at at large selection. Previously everyone had Stanford in the Fiesta after the Sugar picked Michigan.
With a Georgia win, the order of selection might get confusing, but I still think Michigan probably gets in over Stanford?
EDIT- Nevermind. Forgot that Stanford is in because they're top 4. Yeah - we'd need TCU to stay out of the top 16 if Georgia wins.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:06 PM ^
and iowa st beats ksu then we are back in sugar
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:12 PM ^
That assumes TCU doesn't make the top 16 which is a poor assumption.
December 3rd, 2011 at 5:18 PM ^
i kid i kid...ibut i plugged that scenerio in that projection app and it had um in the sugar bowl. But who the hell cares because iowa st lost