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Does Coach Hoke do Open Tryouts?

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September 17th, 2012 at 5:40 AM
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Does Coach Hoke do Open Tryouts?

That was one thing about Rich Rod's program that seemed unique. It also opened the door for Jordan Kovacs, Kwiatkowski and a few other players who have made or are making contributions in Hoke's program.  Some of this is out of necessity due to recruiting and roster turnovers etc. and certainly overall recruting is being upgraded....,however as we all know, despite technological advances, recruiting is still an inexact science, and a lot of HS players with low or no offers can still end up being diamonds in the rough.

Does anyone know if they still hold those annual open tryouts...? I couldnt find anything.

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September 17th, 2012 at 5:58 AM
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No

That is all

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September 17th, 2012 at 8:57 AM
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I think its fantastic

that current players can log on to MGOBLOG to read that you consider them to be inferior level players.

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September 17th, 2012 at 2:09 PM
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This feels out of context...

This feels out of context...

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September 17th, 2012 at 7:07 PM
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He responded to an app troll.

He responded to an app troll.

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September 17th, 2012 at 7:20 AM
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Let's hope we never have to

Let's hope we never have to have an open tryout for kicker ever again.

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September 17th, 2012 at 10:57 AM
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photos from that tryout:

photos from that tryout:

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September 17th, 2012 at 7:34 AM
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I dont want to be the guy to

I dont want to be the guy to break your heart, but if no one else will be honest with you, I will. You're never going to play football for Michigan.

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September 17th, 2012 at 9:33 AM
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Why you gotta be like that

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September 17th, 2012 at 9:56 AM
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ZOMG!!! See the creeper way

ZOMG!!! See the creeper way in the back in the middle of the frame? Thats me! How'd you get that picture???

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September 17th, 2012 at 9:36 AM
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He could

make the team and play on the scout team. That's cool enough for some people.

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September 17th, 2012 at 9:41 AM
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Shoot

That's cool enough for anyone! You still get access to the Big House, training table and all of the athletic facilities, you still get to hang around with the team and the perks that go along with that. You still get a bunch of great athletics memories, you still get to tell people you played for the University of Michigan, you still get the great after-college networking and contacts that should make your life relatively simple, and...

Chicks, man. You get the chicks.

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September 17th, 2012 at 12:14 PM
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That girl does NOT go to

That girl does NOT go to Michigan...

... she goes to Arizona State.

/weeps for making smart, long-term academic decisions

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September 17th, 2012 at 12:55 PM
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Unless things have changed,

you gotta be on scholarship to get training table.

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September 17th, 2012 at 8:36 AM
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open tryouts??

we're Michigan, fergodsakes.

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September 17th, 2012 at 8:39 AM
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Well

You can consider your high school career your open tryout

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September 17th, 2012 at 9:04 AM
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Hits the nail on the head. To

Hits the nail on the head.

To add to it: be a good student, a good person, and LOVE Michigan football.

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September 17th, 2012 at 8:39 AM
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Jason Vinson

We found the punter for our 1997 team through an open tryout. Lloyd later joked that he wouldn't have let Vinson on the team if he had known he was the backup punter in HS.

I assume that open tryouts are very common in CFB. It can't be easy to comletely fill your roster through preferred walk-ons.

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September 17th, 2012 at 8:51 AM
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If Hoke handles it

If Hoke handles it the way Carr did, walk-ons will be offered walk-on spots after they reach out to the program and express an interest.  Their film will be evaluated and then, if "they've got something" they might be extended a walk-on invite.  Some times the program would reach out to certain kids to fill walk on spots, usually for kickers and long-snappers and the like, but for the most part the player initiated the contact and then the coaches decided based upon what they saw.  

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September 17th, 2012 at 9:04 AM
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Don't quote me on this, but I

Don't quote me on this, but I think if you  initiate contact over the winter, generally you would be out there for spring ball. And if the coaches liked you, you might get an invite to try out again in the fall

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September 17th, 2012 at 9:24 AM
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I'm pretty sure that is correct

It's not an open tryout in the sense of "Come down to the stadium on X day and show us what you've got." Instead, while attending the university, you make your desire known to the coaches via a letter and some game tape. They probably have a grad assistant or somebody go through those tapes and letters, and pick out guys who might have the size or talent to do something, and invite them out for some spring practices.

I could be mistaken.

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September 17th, 2012 at 9:00 AM
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Requirement?

I always thought that coaches were required to hold open tryouts.

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September 17th, 2012 at 9:18 AM
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I believe this is correct.

I'm petty sure most schools require coaches to hold open tryouts, and it might even be a Title IX requirement.

I'm on my phone and searching isn't great, but I'm fairly sure of this, FWIW.

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September 17th, 2012 at 1:39 PM
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Not Title IX Per Se...

It's not really a Title IX requirement per se, at least in my understanding - actually, under Title IX, universities can offer a sport to only one sex but what they would have to do, if sufficient interest were shown and sustainable competition was seen as possible, is offer equal accommodation for a team composed of members of the excluded sex. There's nothing specific in the language about tryouts (as others mentioned, during the Carr years at least, you had to approach the athletic department first and get an opportunity to try out) other than the language of "equally effective accommodation".

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September 17th, 2012 at 1:48 PM
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It's not a Title IX issue.

I've since looked it up and I can't find it for the life of me, but I know I've heard about an NCAA or legal issue where a program has to hold an informational meeting and tryouts if there is interest.

I can't find it (and I know this is a knock against it existing) but I will continue to swear up and down that there is either some federal legislation or NCAA bylaw that requires fair tryouts with students for intercollegiate athletic teams when it's requested.

It's also possible it is a state funding issue, in which case I wouldn't know a whole lot about how it works in Michigan.

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September 17th, 2012 at 9:28 AM
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I think they do

A family friend of mine is currently on the team... Don't even think he played hs football but played rugby. He is a big athletic kid and made the team.

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September 17th, 2012 at 10:21 AM
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I'll "troll" along with you. 

I'll "troll" along with you.  What is wrong with people yesterday and today?  So much negativity, not just in this thread but several others.  Is it because we don't have much to complain about after the big win?  Or because Monday's suck in general?  What's up?

 

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September 17th, 2012 at 10:24 AM
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Because monkey rodeo.

Because monkey rodeo.

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September 17th, 2012 at 10:48 AM
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When?  Did I miss it?  Is it

When?  Did I miss it?  Is it too late??

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September 17th, 2012 at 10:54 AM
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YEHAA!!!

That is all.

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September 17th, 2012 at 2:14 PM
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They must have super-glued

They must have super-glued that monkey to the saddle, because I have a hard time believing any monkey would be caught riding on a mere collie mix.

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September 17th, 2012 at 11:05 AM
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Beating umass was a big win?

Beating umass was a big win?

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September 17th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
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No, beating a lesser team by

No, beating a lesser team by 50 points is never considered a "big" win.  The NCAA rule book states that "only wins by 100 or more points can properly be considered 'big" or 'large' victories."  Sorry about the misspeak (new use of that word).

/shakes fist at the damn monkey

 

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September 17th, 2012 at 12:44 PM
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Lol

Lol

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September 17th, 2012 at 10:56 AM
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I think this was one of the

I think this was one of the bright spots of the Rich Rod years. The captain of the football team (and most solid tackler) was discovered in a walk-on tryout! I also think that making the fact we have a open tryout well known means that players who know they won't get offered a scholarship but instead will have to walk on/preferred walk-on will be more likely to come to Michigan over other schools. In my mind that increases the odds that you'll find the "diamond in the rough". And even if they don't get any players from this thing, those students who tried out will never forget that experience and will probably be huge fans for the rest of their life! It's a win-win here.

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September 17th, 2012 at 10:59 AM
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ok so it's not actually a rodeo

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September 17th, 2012 at 11:01 AM
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that's a big chicken

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September 17th, 2012 at 11:03 AM
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 In all seriousness, if good

 

In all seriousness, good luck if you're going for it.

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September 17th, 2012 at 3:19 PM
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Hope there are indeed open tryouts

I really hope there are some kind of open workouts. There may not necessarily be an open "cattle call," but there needs to be some mechanism for open tryouts. This really benefits people who went to schools under the radar, or who you need to see in person. I love the fact that Kovacs is playing and has succeeded at Michigan. And as other posters have noted, some people may have just wanted to make the scout team. I lived on south campus, right next to someone who walked on to the team. While the "Rudy" story is overdone, maudlin, and unfortunately, he failed in choices after school, it still is cool that he could make the ND team on some level. There is something to say for effort and desire, apart from raw talent. Effort will only get you so far, but the same is true for talent.

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