Do we have a RB with the skill-set of Khaleke Hudson?

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Do we have a RB with the skill-set of Khaleke Hudson?  True scat back?

Seems De'Veon gets decent yards after contact which is great and we need that, but maybe 225?  Is it correct to say that KH is a little more elusive? He seems to find clean air slightly better than De'Veon does or find holes better.

Maybe JPepp is the closest to Khaleke, but he weighs more too, iirc.

Would you be surprised if Khaleke gets some snaps at RB next year as a true fr?

 

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Mr. Yost

February 5th, 2016 at 9:37 PM ^

In all serious...HIGDON. He was used as the speed back last year and missed on a couple of big gainers. Let's see what he can do before we write him off.

Kareem also has some shake to him.

These freshman plus Peppers will be plenty of speed to counter Smith and Isaac.

Drake Johnson is probably the most balanced of the bunch and Chris Evans may get some carries.

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Hail Harbo

February 6th, 2016 at 9:09 AM ^

Northwestern:  10/10/2016

 

Player              Carries            yds             yds/carr

D. Smith          8                     59               7.4

K. Higdon        8                     16               2.0             

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TESOE

February 6th, 2016 at 11:21 AM ^

but it was in kick off coverage.  Don't remember that?  Whatever.  Stats don't  speak to potential inviolate.

RBs do progress.  Smith in the Citrus was a beast.  I'm happy with beast next year if the QB can stretch the field like Rudock did in that game.

Higdon is more than a stat and yes "Sample Size". Take your lumps old man.

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TESOE

February 6th, 2016 at 12:34 PM ^

there's football that doesn't show in the stats.   Just because Ty breaks a 76 yarder doesn't mean Higdon didn't show the potential to break his RS.

Quit your cry baby routine.  SAMPLE SIZE bro...

Post some soft porn to that.  

If you can't take the medicine don't get sick...or just die.  You obviously  have an issue with being wrong.  Own it - or your soap box loses height.

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Magnus

February 6th, 2016 at 12:39 PM ^

What exactly am I "wrong" about?

I stated that I want someone to run for more than 4.2 yards/carry. Am I wrong?

I stated that Higdon's 1.73 yards/carry didn't inspire confidence. Am I wrong?

If anyone wants to argue that 4.2 yards is the best Michigan can do or that 1.73 yards/carry hints at future greatness, then I'm intrigued.

I'll hang up and listen.

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TESOE

February 6th, 2016 at 1:24 PM ^

It takes reps to earn that.  It takes potential to make it happen.

I'm also inspired by the player.  Higdon is the shit wrt life.  

It's time to let Jimi take over - with all the double entendre.  There is only one use for the cry baby pedal...

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TESOE

February 6th, 2016 at 1:52 PM ^

the edge of my hand.

Your premise is flawed.  The question you are asking is the wrong one.  You have done this with Drake and others.

You want me to put odds on whether Karan will make you eat dirt?  No.  I won't.  The odds are against Karan.  There are too many horses in the stable.  If you want me to break down all 11 carries and give an appraisal of Higdon's  ability ... it doesn't work.  There's not enough there.

If Soft Porn is an insult to you... welcome to self loathing.  You have to own what you say and do.  That is not an insult.  

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Danwillhor

February 6th, 2016 at 1:01 AM ^

I can't damn any HB behind the OL we've thrown out there the last handful of years. Pass protection improved but we still couldn't push a wheelchair last season. Our most experienced OL is a former 5* "can't miss" that was possibly our worst starter. He's just lost out there and people keep talking like it's coming along (ha)....it's not. He's not a good OL. If he were merely adequate we'd have dropped 60 on Florida in that Bowl Game. He alone caused a few sacks and a few huge runs from busting by literally blocking the air in front of him and/or his own player. Cole regressed but was still solid and improved in PP. Glasgow was solid but not a world beater. Basically, I can't knock Higdon too much because he did go down on first touch every time, he was touched entirely too soon to guage his ability to perform. You need an OL. Sure, Green would have been a stud behind a Bama OL but Henry wouldn't have been a Heisman winner behind ours. We need the run blocking aspect thingy to work for the first time in a long time. Until then they'll all be average at best, none will flourish.

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Hail Harbo

February 6th, 2016 at 9:23 AM ^

Higdon's second run of his collegiate career was for nine yards, it was down hill from there.  Higdon came into the NW game in the first Q with Michigan already up 21-0 and the first team OL still on the field.  Panicked?  Why should Higdon have been panicking?  In any case, do you really want to put your money on a RB you've already described as one that panicks?

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EGD

February 6th, 2016 at 10:12 AM ^

I don't know. Maybe he was nervous about playing in front of 110,000 people. Maybe he was just afraid of screwing up. Maybe he wasn't even panicked--it's just what it looked like when the guy Is tripping over his own feet and displaying no patience whatsoever.

At any rate, I am not sure what you mean by "put your money on" Higdon. I said I'd like to see what he can do. I think he's a talented player who could contribute, and who may have had some freshman jitters that have caused him to not play as well as he's capable of playing. If he doesn't get any better, then fine--don't use him. But I tend not to give up on players just because they struggled as true freshmen.

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Mr. Yost

February 6th, 2016 at 8:09 AM ^

Well the fact that the coaches had enough confidence in him to design plays for him early in games and give him snaps that weren't mop up duty offsets that for me. I'll trust the coaches confidence in him versus what I saw in a small sample size. And I said he didn't do anything production wise. But that he just missed on a couple of big plays. Does it count? No. But I don't lose confidence because he slipped on a one and there was a missed block on another. I believe a penalty took him off of the field for a third play that looked like a big gainer. Regardless, the coaches have enough confidence in him to play him early and in moments that made all of us go "wait, what?" And in those moments he did show speed. Just because a holding penalty brings it back doesn't mean he wasn't displaying his speed when everyone was live. It just means the play doesn't count and his stats will suffer.

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Magnus

February 6th, 2016 at 8:39 AM ^

I didn't say he should be cut or anything. Obviously, you still see what he can do in practices. But his 1.73 yards/carry was literally the worst output of any running back playing for Michigan since 2003. That's the year that tiny walk-on Alijah Bradley had 2 carries for 1 yard (0.5 yards/carry). So performance-wise, you could make the argument that Higdon is Michigan's worst running back in 13 years. I'm not saying that's the case, but statistically, you could make that argument.

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WolvinLA2

February 6th, 2016 at 11:13 AM ^

I'm with Mr Yost on this. I thought Higdon looked better than his ypc suggests and I'm sure the coaches saw something in him in practice to get the game reps he got, he just hasn't had a chance to put it all together in a game yet. I'm certainly not ready to write him off yet.

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Hail Harbo

February 6th, 2016 at 12:56 PM ^

Higdon had eight carries against Northwestern for 16 yards and then had three (3) more carries the rest of the season for three additional yards. The two games that Drake Johnson sat out, MSU and PSU, Higdon had 2 carriers and 1 carry respectively.  

Penn State game, six players rushed for a combined 87 yards.  Of those six players only two, Smith and Higdon were running backs, one was a DB, one a WR, one a FB, and the sixth was the QB Rudock.  Higdon had one carry for exactly zero yards.  I agree, the coaches are seeing something in practice, they saw enough to give Peppers five carries against PSU rather than giving those five carriers to Higdon.

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