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April 2nd, 2013 at 11:22 PM
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Director's Cup Standings

This isn't that interesting, but I saw that the Sears Director's Cup standings were updated recently and MIchigan is 4th.  This is the rankings of the overall athletic department performance....otherwise known as the competition that Stanford wins every single year. 

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/nacda/sports/directorscup/auto_pdf/2012-13/misc_non_event/march21DIrelease.pdf

 

The next update is April 4th where we will get credit for the Men's Swimming National Title and then again the following week where both of the basketball teams should pull in points. 

Also, there is the Capital One Cup that is supposed to be something similar, but it doesn't seem to make any sense and Michigan is just 21st:

http://www.capitalonecup.com/assets/standings/complete-capital-one-cup-standings.pdf

 

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April 2nd, 2013 at 11:30 PM
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looking at the cap1 cup pdf,

looking at the cap1 cup pdf, they only list the top 10 finishers. So maybe they only award points for the top 10.

 

Sear cup awards based on how you finish in the NCAA tournaments/championships- unique to each sport but generally down to the 25th/64th finishers

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April 2nd, 2013 at 11:47 PM
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Director's Cup

The Director's Cup calculates a schools score by looking at the top 10 for both men's and women's sports, meaning each school's score is based on 20 teams. Does the Capital One Cup only take the top 10 overall into consideration?

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April 2nd, 2013 at 11:49 PM
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There are two separate awards

There are two separate awards for men's and women's. We are in 9th for women's.

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April 3rd, 2013 at 12:00 AM
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I see.

So the Director's Cup includes both men's and women's sports in their calculations, but the Capital One Cup splits them up. In the Captial One Cup we are 21st in the men's standings and 9th in the women's standings. We are a solid 4th (soon to be 1st in all likelihood) in the Director's Cup which takes both into account.

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April 3rd, 2013 at 12:05 AM
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Capital One Cup gives a lot

Capital One Cup gives a lot of weight to first place. For Group A sports (most non-revenue sports) first place gets 20 points, then 12, 10, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. For Group B sports (mostly revenue sports) it's 60, 36, 30, 24, 18, 15, 12, 9, 6, 3.

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April 2nd, 2013 at 11:54 PM
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Also, for men's, if we win it

Also, for men's, if we win it all in basketball and end up #1 in the coaches' poll (which I assume we would) we should end up as #1.

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April 2nd, 2013 at 11:35 PM
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70th. How is that possible??

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April 2nd, 2013 at 11:41 PM
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Was just about to say the

Was just about to say the same!

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April 3rd, 2013 at 12:41 AM
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Because they suck balls?

Because they suck balls?

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April 3rd, 2013 at 12:10 PM
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Did they get 0 points for football?

Seems like the only way they could be so far behind other major athletic departments

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April 2nd, 2013 at 11:49 PM
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"This isn't that interesting, but..."

== Not a good way to start anything.

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April 2nd, 2013 at 11:59 PM
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Says the guy who just posted

Says the guy who just posted a thread about a guy who almost pitched a perfect game

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April 2nd, 2013 at 11:52 PM
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We will jump

The Men's Swimming natoinal championship gives us 100 points, and we will get at least 83 for our basketball team (100 if we win it all, 90 if we lose in the championship, and 83 if we lose to Syracuse). So we will jump up to at least 614.5 (hopefully 631.5), which will probably give us the lead.

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April 3rd, 2013 at 12:09 AM
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Michigan will get a handful of wrestling points too

whatever 33rd place in the team competition gets (5-8 points?).  Everything counts in the race for #1 overall.

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April 3rd, 2013 at 12:08 AM
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but oregon should get points

but oregon should get points for making it so far in the tourney as well.

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April 3rd, 2013 at 12:42 AM
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Oregon

Oregon will earn 64 points for their Sweet Sixteen appearance. I can't find the full men's swimming results, so I'm not sure how many points (if any) they will get for that. The new update (4/4) will include wrestling, fencing, and women's hockey as well. The basketball points will be added on 4/11. We might be in the lead on 4/11--it could be close.

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April 3rd, 2013 at 12:44 AM
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Notre Dame

is going to get points for men's basketball, women's basketball which just made the Final Four and men's hockey.

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April 3rd, 2013 at 12:57 AM
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Fencing

Was looking at the Director's Cup website and points for the Fencing National Championship is included in tomorrow's release.  ND got 2nd in fencing.

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April 3rd, 2013 at 12:22 AM
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Is this that award that

Is this that award that Stanford seems to win or place 2nd in every year?

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April 3rd, 2013 at 12:46 AM
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History

North Carolina won it the first year ('93-'94) with Stanford coming in second. Stanford has won it ever since. Also, while I was looking at the results, I noticed that Michigan has made 15 top 10 appearences, which is the most out of Big Ten schools (plus Notre Dame). They are followed by Ohio State (8), Penn State (8), Nebraska (7), Minnesota (1), and Notre Dame (1).

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April 3rd, 2013 at 12:48 AM
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Almost literally

UNC won the Director's Cup in its inagural year. That was in the early 1990s. Stanford won it the next year and has never lost since. Frankly...it's ludicrous, by which I mean impressive.

Having said that, Stanford sponsors more varsity sports than, I believe, everyone else (and far more than most). W/r/t the Director's Cup, this is beneficial as the cup's formula puts a cap on how many men's and women's sports** can annually score for each school (meaning Stanford is more able to remove their lowest performing teams from the scoring list than everyone else).

 

**Anyone here aware of the official cap?

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April 3rd, 2013 at 1:00 AM
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Also helps that they are

Also helps that they are Stanford.  A lot of non-revenue athletes are really good students and want a great education.  They put as much work in in the classroom as they do in their sports and are generally just hard working types.  Not to diminish the accomplishments of revenue sport athletes, but to put in all the work knowing you are unlikely to make a decent living after school takes a strong work ethic that often carries over to the classroom.

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April 3rd, 2013 at 1:10 AM
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Cap.

They cap it at 20 teams total (top 10 men's and top 10 women's).

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April 3rd, 2013 at 10:20 AM
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And if they didn't cap the

And if they didn't cap the number of sports that each school can count, then Stanford would win by even more because it has more point-scoring teams that are not included in the rankings.

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