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Yep, I really wonder what he could have achieved. That injury still bothers me, that a kid could lose such a bright career so suddenly.
I seem to remember that he suffered two concussions, and left because (the story goes) Michigan's policy is that a third concussion ends your playing days (and no school would play a player medically DQ'ed by another school like that). If what I recall is correct, there was no way McGuffie was going to be around.
Agree that he seemed like a nice guy who deserved to succeed, even if not at Michigan.
One guy I liked was John Anes. I think depression or something caused him to drop out, but he was a Mike Alstott type that I had hopes for.
This thread is making me open old wounds, we should stop the bleeding before someone dies from depression like symptoms.
What if we had hired les miles instead of dick Rodriguez
And .... scene.
I think to me Pryor is the biggest one. With Pryor, Year 1 of the Rich Rod era would have been way more successful (6-6?) and in future years would only have gotten better. Our defense in Year 1 was way better than it was under GERG, but our offense was not so good that first year. He was pretty much the perfect QB for that system at the perfect time and we came in second for his services. The downside of course is what NCAA implications could have come along with him, but it would have prevented the worst years of the Rich Rod era from being so bad.
You know what? I'm not really sure I care how many more games we would have won, I'm glad we didn't get him.
Plus, he wouldn't have made the defense any better, so I still think RR would be gone by now anyway.
Brady Hoke just went 11-2, and some moron is "celebrating" his first 100 points by using his inaugural post to complain about the previous coaching staff?
The only conclusion I can make here is that people who are still whining about the past when this team appears to have such a good future do it because they are "habitual bitchers" or "congenital whiners." Either way, it's very low-quality, and something that would look more at home at RCMB or 11W.
Get off your high horse. He's just playing a game of "what ifs" during the offseason. You got anything better to talk about? These aren't necessarily supposed to be aimed at the previous coaching staff, but include things from the Carr and Moeller eras too.
Examining the past is always interesting, and while I think most would agree that we have a very bright future ahead of us, that doesn't mean we can't speculate about the past.
anyone use a sports message board on a sports blog in order to pass away the time in the off season by shooting the breeze about "what ifs" and whatnot.
You're all taking up valuable bandwidth with this pointless rehashing.
But there is one and only one quote for this thread . .
If coach would've put me in fourth quarter, we'd have been state Champions. No doubt in my mind.
Yeah, and if pigs had wings, they'd fly.
There are millions of hypotheticals. Don't forget that there are also millions of negative hypotheticals.
Napoleon Dynamite quote?
Yes, Napoleon Dynamite
This thread has been really great.
My What-if has to be The Horror. What-if the team hadn't forgotten to show up for the game. How many starters were sitting out? It seemed like a lot.
Oh well. All those terrible memories are why we are where with Hoke. So there is a little silver lining.
What if we beat Purdue on Senior Day?
Individual player/career "what if" has to be Antonio Bass. What a shame.
As for in-game gaffe "what ifs", I'll go with Braylon Edwards dropping the ball (pick one).
more focused on what is...and it's pretty damn good
Another "what if" - What if it hadn't been raining the week before the Game in 2006? I remember the field at the Horseshoe coming apart each time one of our players tried to make a cut (which was a lot more than Ohio... we didn't have the greatest speed, but we were elusive).
And... what if Mike DeBord never heard of running left? Imagine how great the Henne/Hart offenses would have been.
Good point. What if we had a defensive coordinator that year who knew his Xs and Os and how to defend a spread? What if we had an offensive coordinator that wasn't has clueless as DeBord?
The defensive collapse against OSU in 2006 wasn't a matter of English lacking knowledge of how to defend the spread, it was that poor recruiting had left our secondary paper-thin. Once Adams or Barringer (can't remember which one) got hurt in the first quarter, we couldn't even play a nickle, far less the dime we should have been in. English was left with a choice between playing Johnny Sears or Chris Graham. Neither was remotely up to the task. That defensive collapse should go on recruiting rather than strategy.
What if we're all being surrounded by billions of iguanas and we just can't see them?
I am terrified right now.
And grab some pepper. Iguanas love pepper. But they hate cinnamon.
Are we talking normal iguanas or nuclear-infused-Godzilla iguanas?
I was waiting for someone to mention him. I remember watching him play in 2005 and thinking that I had never seen a player in Michigan history like him. I have no doubt in my mind that Michigan would have won a National Championship (possibly 06) if he the chance to play out his career.
His injury hurt the team more than any other decommit or transfer.
Only read the first page and not sure if anyone has mentioned him yet.
What if Crable had blocked down?
Through a mutual friend I know that Antonio is doing quite well, working out in Baltimore. Has a younger brother garduating from Lumen Christi this year.
Does your friend know if Antonio's dad has the same name and used to work at Art Van Furniture in Jackson? I ask because I used to work part time there, and one of the salesmen was named Antonio Bass. It was 2003, before the UM Antonio had become such a big time recruit.
I do know that Antonio got his degree, got a "great job" in Baltimore and is living out there. He'll be back this year for his brother's graduation. I guess his brother plays a little football as well.
Michigan would of went undefeated and beat tressel and clarrett, Heisman finalist, and they would of played Miami in the Fiesta bowl who would of won toss up. Willis McGahee wouldnt blew his knee probadly, Drew Henson would of went to the Houston Texans first overall pick the Lions would of got David Carr who might of played better for the Lions.
In three seasons of college football, Sam McGuffie has rushed for 486, 883 and 158 yards, respectively. (He suffered a season-ending injury midway through the 2011 season, but even before then his production was down.) It appears that he is a decent player but not the superstar he was billed as in high school. He probably wouldn't have beaten out Toussaint.
And Toussaint did not have anywhere near the same level of hype as McGuffie did when he came in. This is just one example of how recruiting talent doesn't always turn into wins, and yet another reason I love the current staff so much. Instead of dealing with "What Ifs" with kids that don't pan out, this staff was able to take a pretty bad roster (for Michigan) and turn into an 11 win team. There's no doubt we won't always get all the 5* players (though the '13 class is pretty ridiculous) but we'll get quality kids that will be well-coached into better players and men.
Toussaint shows what great coaching can do with a player that has been mediocre.
What if Kelly Baraka didn't like the lettuce so much. I still remember talking to members of that defense on how he was breaking 1st stringers ankles for the scout team during the bowl practices. He was an amazing talent with track speed and great agility. I think he could have put up ridiculous numbers in the early 2000's behind our lines. Such a waste of talent.
Look at how he gets up the field after that ridiculous stab, its like a cut at full speed
What if Brady Hoke was hired immediately after Lloyd Carr retired and Rich Rod had never taken the job? We would've been denied the talents of Shoelace which would have royally sucked, but where would the program be at now?