Did we score on that fumbled kickoff at the end??

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I know it doesnt matter but where I was I couldnt see it that well.

Jskohl88

September 11th, 2011 at 12:54 AM ^

Pretty sure no. On an onside kick if the kicking team recovers the play is whistled dead when it is recovered. Therefore, whenever we got possession i assume the play would be whistled dead. I got this rule from the Auburn-Utah State game last week. 

SIDE NOTE/QUESTION: WHY DOES LOU HOLTZ STILL HAVE A JOB???

wildbackdunesman

September 11th, 2011 at 1:18 AM ^

The ball was picked up by an Irish player then fumbled - so yes UofM can advance it forward - however, I viewed the replay and am positive that he was down just before he fumbled and short of the goal.  In theory with a review it would be Michigan ball at the 6 inch line.

bacon

September 11th, 2011 at 12:55 AM ^

no, IIRC ball went out of the endzone without anyone getting posession (or Michigan "fumbled" it out of the back of the endzone).  I think either way it would have been a touchback.

TheRivalry

September 11th, 2011 at 1:03 AM ^

It wasn't an onside kick. ND recovered and tried to make something happen (was probably thinking how to pitch it), he fumbled, we recover, and run it down to the 1 before fumbling it out of the end zone. If there was time left, it was ND ball.

VictorValiant

September 11th, 2011 at 1:13 AM ^

notre dame picked up the ball and fumbled.  so ball can be advanced.

terrance robinson picked up the fumble and may have broken the plane of the endzone.  if so, TD.

the ball came out when t-rob it the ground, so if he didn't break the plane, the ball would have been put just outside the goaline.  the ground cannot cause a fumble.

philibuster

September 11th, 2011 at 1:26 AM ^

Watching the replay on espn3, I think it was a touchdown. The ball came out when he was tackled because he extended the ball and it hit the ground. The ball had just barely crossed the plane.

mackbru

September 11th, 2011 at 1:44 AM ^

That one ND kick returner -- the tall white guy -- was absysmal. When he wasn't falling down and fumbling, he was running backward or calling for fair catches when no tacklers were anywhere near him.

Alton

September 11th, 2011 at 9:41 AM ^

The ref on the near sideline was signaling it dead at the point of recovery (the 15 or so).  The ref ruled that the Notre Dame player touched it but never had possession of it, so it was a 'muffed' kick, which means that Michigan could not advance the ball.  Michigan ball at the ND 14, according to the official play-by-play.

 

bronxblue

September 11th, 2011 at 9:58 AM ^

Definitely looked like a ground-forced fumble at the 1.  When I saw that play, I was trying to figure out what the line was on the game because that might have pushed it one way or the other.  I don't gamble, but I imagine that somewhere a dude with no rooting interests in the teams was screaming for them to replay if that was a TD or not.