September 11th, 2011 at 12:54 AM ^
Pretty sure no. On an onside kick if the kicking team recovers the play is whistled dead when it is recovered. Therefore, whenever we got possession i assume the play would be whistled dead. I got this rule from the Auburn-Utah State game last week.
SIDE NOTE/QUESTION: WHY DOES LOU HOLTZ STILL HAVE A JOB???
September 11th, 2011 at 1:18 AM ^
The ball was picked up by an Irish player then fumbled - so yes UofM can advance it forward - however, I viewed the replay and am positive that he was down just before he fumbled and short of the goal. In theory with a review it would be Michigan ball at the 6 inch line.
September 11th, 2011 at 12:55 AM ^
He fumbled it at the one and it went out the back of the endzone.
September 11th, 2011 at 12:55 AM ^
no, IIRC ball went out of the endzone without anyone getting posession (or Michigan "fumbled" it out of the back of the endzone). I think either way it would have been a touchback.
September 11th, 2011 at 12:55 AM ^
The kicking team cannot advance a kick. See Auburn against Utah St.
In conclusion, God bless Denard.
September 11th, 2011 at 1:02 AM ^
if he took possession and then lost the ball. can't advance the ball otherwise. if guy runs it out and then drops it, it is returnable.
September 11th, 2011 at 11:29 AM ^
Can't advance a "muff" (have fun wth that one), but can advance a fumble.
September 11th, 2011 at 12:56 AM ^
The dumb ND guy picked it up and got nailed. Loose ball. Picked up, run for TD or fumble at 1yard line. Knocked out back of endzone by ND.
September 11th, 2011 at 12:56 AM ^
Michigan scored if it mattered, but the officials didn't call it and there was no reason to review it.
September 11th, 2011 at 12:59 AM ^
I think we fumbled it as well... though I could be wrong. I was jumping around like a nutcase, my wife thought I was freaked out.
September 11th, 2011 at 1:02 AM ^
It was a touchback.
September 11th, 2011 at 1:03 AM ^
September 11th, 2011 at 1:13 AM ^
notre dame picked up the ball and fumbled. so ball can be advanced.
terrance robinson picked up the fumble and may have broken the plane of the endzone. if so, TD.
the ball came out when t-rob it the ground, so if he didn't break the plane, the ball would have been put just outside the goaline. the ground cannot cause a fumble.
September 11th, 2011 at 9:02 AM ^
September 11th, 2011 at 1:04 AM ^
final score: 35-31
September 11th, 2011 at 1:10 AM ^
ND fumbled, and our guy barely broke the endzone before he fumbled. I think it was a TD, but as you said, doesn't matter.
September 11th, 2011 at 1:22 AM ^
I wish he would have just fell on it.. scared the hell out of me
September 11th, 2011 at 1:23 AM ^
for the help! What a night!!!!! I hope the UM/OSU game is half this good when I come up. And to those who were at the game tonight,you guys did a GREAT job with the crowd noise!!
September 11th, 2011 at 1:26 AM ^
Watching the replay on espn3, I think it was a touchdown. The ball came out when he was tackled because he extended the ball and it hit the ground. The ball had just barely crossed the plane.
September 11th, 2011 at 9:04 AM ^
September 11th, 2011 at 1:44 AM ^
That one ND kick returner -- the tall white guy -- was absysmal. When he wasn't falling down and fumbling, he was running backward or calling for fair catches when no tacklers were anywhere near him.
September 11th, 2011 at 2:38 AM ^
He was funny.
September 11th, 2011 at 3:00 AM ^
or King Ralph
September 11th, 2011 at 1:46 AM ^
On HD slo mo, his knee was down with the ball around the 1. The ball came out after his knee was down.
September 11th, 2011 at 6:49 AM ^
Nope, I think it would've been MICH ball at the one. Player's knee was down then the fumble caused by the ground.
September 11th, 2011 at 6:59 AM ^
IMHO, it would have been our ball at the 1 since his knee appeared to hit the ground just a second before the fumble. Could be wrong, of course.
September 11th, 2011 at 9:41 AM ^
The ref on the near sideline was signaling it dead at the point of recovery (the 15 or so). The ref ruled that the Notre Dame player touched it but never had possession of it, so it was a 'muffed' kick, which means that Michigan could not advance the ball. Michigan ball at the ND 14, according to the official play-by-play.
September 11th, 2011 at 9:58 AM ^
Definitely looked like a ground-forced fumble at the 1. When I saw that play, I was trying to figure out what the line was on the game because that might have pushed it one way or the other. I don't gamble, but I imagine that somewhere a dude with no rooting interests in the teams was screaming for them to replay if that was a TD or not.
September 11th, 2011 at 10:34 AM ^
I think Michigan had already covered the spread by winning. Not sure if it effected the over/under.
BTW, who is #82?
September 11th, 2011 at 12:53 PM ^
T-Rob
September 11th, 2011 at 2:09 PM ^
In a way I'm kind of glad it didn't count. 41-31 doesn't sound as dramatic as 35-31.
September 11th, 2011 at 3:38 PM ^
With the new rule that they brought in this year I am pretty sure that if they did rule it a TD that we would have been flagged for excessive celebration and the points would have come off the board. Still get our dramatic 35-31 score.