Osu is making it if auburn wins
Osu is making it if auburn wins
Auburn is ranked only behind Alabama, FSU, AND Ohio. If Auburn beats Alabama, they will leapfrog Ohio, who has only beaten Wisconsin and scrubs while Auburn has beaten a bunch of ranked teams.
some "scrubs" TYVM
theyd still have to beat mizzou too. in The SEC title game.
Auburn jumps Ohio State if they beat the number 1 team in the country that's also the two time defending champions. No doubt in my mind.
ND would not have been in the title game last year.
Such an action would set a terrible precedent. If that is the case, then the Big Ten, Big 12, Pac 12, etc have no chance because there will always be plenty of 1 loss SEC teams out there. SEC is not that great. Mizzou powered through their conference in only their 2nd year in there. It's not like Mizzou was anything special in the Big 12 and 2 years removed is not much. A one loss Auburn team should not under any circumstances jump an undefeated team from a power conference.
Pretty sure Auburn would leapfrog OSU
From what I saw from OSU today on the defensive side of the ball, I think MSU will put them out of the equation anyways.
No way is OSU a top 5 team.
MSU beats Ohio IF they get out of their little brother mentality and get up for a game other than the one they play against Michigan every year. They've managed to do that only a couple of times in the past 45 years. I'll be cheering for Sparty, but the doubt factor is high indeed.
MSU has changed. If we want to stick with the "little brother" metaphor I think it's fitting to say that they have "grown up". I think they can, and will, beat OSU and go to the Rose Bowl. Sure part of that is because they are due to go, but it's also because they are winning their games solidly, convincingly even. OSU has benefitted from a very favorable schedule and matching up well to some weak defenses. MSU will give them a test they have not seen for over 2+ seasons.
MSU beats OSU, by 2 scores, defeats Stanford in the Rose Bowl and brings honor to the B1G.
Did Borges just save his job?
No. He proved himself completely unable to scheme on an even field with the vast majority of defensive coordinators he faced this year, and was completely embarrassed by Narduzzi yet again. Borges and Funk should still be replaced. People can't allow the fact that OSU schemed conservatively on defense, knowing they had an explosive offense, cloud the fact that Borges was humiliated repeatedly all year.
Do you not think the Oline played great today?
One game doesn't erase 10 horrible games.
Also, Kalis still struggled a lot, and almost gave up a sack while blocking a true freshman (Bosa) on the last play.
I really doubt that OSU schemed conservatively on defense at all, much less after we were up 21-14. While the msu game was an embarrassment, this game was pretty indicative of how Borges wants to run the offense. I'm not sure why the offensive line seemed to play much better this game than any since ND, maybe chalk it up to the rivalry, but the play calling and execution in this game was where you expect it to be. At this point, I'm not sure canning Borges is the answer so much as riding out the storm that is this offensive line.
they got up for the biggest rivalry in college football but they couldn't move the ball going in a certain direction against Iowa?
that's all coaching. At the most basic level. . .
if you use one data point and ignore many data points, you're doing it wrong.
But, even as a person who doesn't hate Borges as much as everyone else, Michigan still needs to move in a different direction.
Sorry for disappointing a lot of people but today saved everyone's job. No way they fire anyone now
Since the only way Ohio gets in is if Bama loses, they wouldn't be playing Bama...
Ohio State won't play Bama since they only way they get in is if Alabama loses. But FSU will kill them. If Michigan can score 41 that easily on them, FSU will score 60.
Technically, no. Duke can still beat Florida State in the ACC championship lol.
It's an interesting question. I think OSU moves up in the human polls, it'd probably depend on what the computers think should Auburn or Missouri win the SEC with one loss.
The human polls will not be kind to to OSU. If Auburn does win the gap between OSU and Auburn will shrink. Probably not enough for Auburn to jump them, but if OSU looks sluggish against MSU next week who knows.
OSU just barely beat a team they were favored by 16 pts to beat, and also there most impressive win (Wisky) looks less impressive with their loss today against PSU.
Auburn beat the #1 team and defending natl championship and the voters have a lot more respect for the SEC than B1G.
I guarantee Auburn will be ranked ahead of OSU in the human polls. In the computers, who knows? I have no idea how those computers work.
It appears that OSU is/was very unlikely to jump Bama or FSU, and I also believe it's very unlikely - due to the way the BCS computer program works - for OSU to fall behind a team with one loss. Michigan did likely foreclose the possibility of OSU jumping Bama/FSU if all three stay undefeated.
If OSU gets in the championship game would the Rose Bowl select MSU to fill the spot?
I personally think Sparty would deserve to go, but they'd have to watch out for Wisconsin.
It'd be their 4th straight trip to the Rose Bowl. I'm guessing the Rose Bowl would probably like someone else from the Big Ten, especially if it's an at large.
Looks like Penn St. took care of any chance Wisconsin had of bumping sparty out of a BCS bowl. Where's the threat? The threat is the fact that MSU won't be ranked high enough if they lose to OSU.
I don't think they'd be eligible due to ranking.
If Auburn beats the #1 team- they should leap frog OSU.
OSU's defense doesn't belong in the NC game.
OSU is not any better than Boise. Your defense blows chunks.
So is Northern Illinois but we don't see them going to the National Championship...
7-0 late in 1st quarter.
trolling. Its pathetic.
interesting comment based on your chosen name. You sure are a sneaky sneaky troll!
A minor, unranked road bump that put up over 600 yards of offense. Teams that give up that many yards don't play for the national championship. Enjoy Pasadena!
Did really think your screen name would somehow throw us off the scent of a troll? If you're going to troll own it at least.
I take it that means that "you" refers to UM? And you are a part of which "we"? OSU? MSU?
I would use something like OSU4life, etc as a username or MSU4ever as opposed to one that suggests you are a UM fan.
Just know that I feel better, not worse, reading your post (and responding) knowing that members of opposing fan base are too cowardly to own up to who they are.
Oh, one other thing. While you may call me the UM fan base "losers" for rooting for a team that had a bad year, most of us will appreciate the hard work the team put in and go back to our successful careers and families after the bowl season. As opposed to you, we aren't so insecure as to bask in the reflected glory of laundry worn by 18-21 year olds.
Hopefully MSU does next week. I have a lot of OSU buddies going to that game and I would love to see them all very sad next week. Those douchbags put me through hell...
They aren't that good. FSU and Bama would wipe the floor with them. Hell, I think MSU might beat them next wekk. The B1G is a BAD conference this year. If you put MSU's defense wnd OSU's offense, they would be the best team in the country by a stretch.
Who cares right now, Brady Choke made bad decisions that cost the game.
No, they won.
Some of us around here are getting as obsessed about OSU and their season as Michigan State has traditionally been about us. Let's try to avoid having Ohio's little brother syndrome
After winning 2 of 15, I think it's only inevitable to get little brother syndrome
Until posters here start creating at least a half dozen posts per day about OSU (no matter who we're playing or if we win or lose), I'd say we still have a long ways to go before we even sniff little brother status.
Knowing how the media treats the SEC, I would definitely not be surprised if Auburn jumped them with a win today.
Obviously, we'll know tomorrow, but I have to believe that if Alabama wins handily here, then between that possibility and Florida State having more or less mauled Florida (because we were expecting different, right?), Ohio State is probably still on the outside looking in when it comes to the championship game. Again, I could be off here, but the way the model seems to work, it seems possible that Ohio State gets shut out of it.
Oh, if Alabama and FSU win out there's no shot for OSU. The much more interesting question is if Auburn beats Alabama and then beats Mizzou/South Carolina next week.
I feel like 13-0 against this Big Ten is not as impressive as 12-1 Auburn?
I think it depends on the Jameis Winston situation. If he's charged before the bowl game announcements, or if there's no decision, I think that hurts FSU.
Sparty will have to face the ejected players Wilson and Otherguy despite the analysts saying the Big Ten will determine if they should be suspended further. There's no way the Big Ten suspends players from the only conference team with a shot at the National Championship, even if they were throwing punches.
Any suspensions coming from today's game that will effect the Big Ten Championship? I think there are a lot more players that threw punches that didn't get thrown out.
Ohio will fall in the rankings almost no matter what after today. If Auburn wins they will jump ahead of OSU and Alabama won't fall below OSU. If Alabama wins nothing changes from going into today (unless it's close in which case Auburn may still jump OSU).
Only reason OSU falls is because we beat a mediocre team in a close game!
The only reason you weren't aborted is that your mom was too drunk and your uncle wanted to be dad.
Go back to bleacher report.
C'mon, man. That was a prefect response to the troll. Simultaneously calling into question his incestuous OSU parentage as well as own his fetal alcohol syndrome. That was good stuff.
No, because you gave up 603 yards and 41 points, and 35 and 34 points against Illinois and Cal. Teams that do that don't play for the national championship.
Yardage and points are irrelevant. Only record. Undefeated teams play for the national championships.
It was stated earlier today that no 1-loss team has ever played in the championship game over an undefeated team from a major conference. Now you may argue that the Big Ten is no longer a major conference, but that's just untenable.
When all is said an done, I just don't see a 1-loss team going in preference over an undefeated Ohio State team. A snub to Ohio State is a snub to the Big Ten conference and all of the teams that play in it. Importantly, this would be a precedent that no one outside of the SEC would like to have set, period.
Mods please ban this clown.
She's real. There's a police report and everything.
I damn well hope so.
The last two years have shown us that Alabama losing in November makes no difference. They are in just for being Alabama.
I hate the thought of OSU being in the title game but knowing Alabama would have a 3 touchdown lead in the 1st quarter would be kind of yummy.
I think if ohio beats up state it makes us look a lot better after we nearly beat them.
603 yards allowed against one of the worst offenses statistically in the country going in = not going to the national championship game. That, and 34 points to Cal and 35 points to Illiniois.
No, but I would be surprised if Fickle is still the defensive coordinator at Ohio State next year.
A comment from bucknuts: "You know your DC sucks when he get brutally outcoached by Al Borges. Smh"
Auburn leapfrogs Ohio with an Auburn win today. The human polls will allow it, anyway. A struggling UM offense put up 500 yards, covered a 17 pt spread and came within a 2 pt conversion of ending Ohio's streak. If Bama keeps things close, they shouldn't fall lower than #3.
I think the outcome of the Alabama Auburn game is moot now with respect to Ohio, the winner will be ahead of them. Hell, if Alabama loses, they might actually stay in front anyway. FSU could screw the pooch and drop though if they lose either of their remaining, letting Ohio in.
EDIT: I'm watching the FSU vs Florida game on tape right now, so I don't know who won yet.
Sparty is going to get the benefit that they usually got against Notre Dame: playing them the week after they gave every ounce of effort in their bodies against Michigan. I am not so sure that Ohio is going to beat Sparty. I really wish both teams could lose, but I won't be too upset if Sparty wins this week.
Then again, if Ohio wins it all, it might wake up the trustees in Ann Arbor and make them realize what a dolt David Brandon is and what a farce he has made of the football team.
Calling a guy like David Brandon a dolt has to be one of the dumbest comments I have read on here.
Tater just lost credibility here, IMO. Wtf does any of this have to do with DB?
He's not a bad guy, but he's a lunatic conspiracy theorist. He used to have his blog linked in his signature. It was something like TinFoilHatBlog.com
Short answer: No.
Still don't understand how FSU is still far and away ahead of OSU. Both schedules are bad (best games against Clemson and Wisconsin, respectively). Next best team each played are bad (Miami or Iowa, I guess?). I would think that between today's game (beating michigan is much better than beating florida) and if they beat MSU that would give them a much better resume than FSU Can't see beating duke doing that much
Clemson game was a blow out and on the road wasn't it?
they have dominated every team they have played & two of their wins are against top ten (at the time) teams... OSU has had multiple close calls throughout the season.
FSU goes out and flat out dominates everyone they play, usually by 30 to 50 points. The only game that was remotely close was BC, and that was still by 2 touchdowns.
Ohio State struggles to put away Illinois and just gave up 41 pts to an offense ranked below 100.
The resumes aren't that close - FSU will easily be ranked ahead of OSU as long as both remain unbeaten.
Is this for real?
What about this scenario? Mizzou beats A&M tonight and then beats #1 Alabama in the SEC title game next week. That would leave them 12-1 with their only loss being a double OT loss to South Carolina. They could be deserving of playing in the title game.
CBS currently trolling OSU about the close game. Obviously pushing for the SEC, but hilarious none the less.
Great team, but they had to tee off on us today and they were a point better, 16 seconds to go. They'll drop points.
If the winner of Bama-Auburn wins the SEC champ it'll be them vs FSU.
I don't see OSU as better than Bama, FSU, or Auburn. They are an excellent team but as well as they ran the ball down their throats, we hung 40 on them and were a play away. They won't make it.
Course if they beat Sparty, then SCarolina gets into the SEC title game and wins, you have a situation...
Fell in the polls after a goal line stand against Akron and won.
The rap on Ohio all year is that they blew out a herd of cream puffs. Now there is quantitative proof with an unranked team who hung 600yd of offense on their ass with an OC with a noose around his neck. I don't care if it's a The Game or a rivalry game, the numbers say M is not good enough to be ranked yet ran the play which could have beat them.
I say Ohio falls despite their zero loss record.
Suppose I'm wrong. The day of reckoning will come. Witness the Golden Balloon of 2012.
We're a 7 win archrival at home. They haven't lost in two seasons. I can't believe that our program is in such a dire state that we now believe that barely beating us is as bad as a loss for our opponents in the standings.
Dislike it all you want, but the fact is Ohio State will drop to 4 in the polls tomorrow now with the Auburn win, and the main reasons will be (1) we hung 603 yards and 41 points on them, and (2) they gave up 35 and 34 points to Cal and Illinois. It's not that we are a bad program, or whatever you're thing to say, but rather that teams that do those two things don't play for the national championship.
FSU wiil get every #1 vote. Auburn will be ranked ahead OSU by a few votes, as they have far more impressive victories than OSU which will excuse their 1 loss. I don't know if Alabama will be ranked ahead of OSU (I really doubt it).
With Wisconsin losing, OSU will have zero wins over top 20 opposition. It's almost like OSU is playing in a slightly better version of the MAC.
In the end, OSU will need to beat MSU, and then have FSU or Auburn lose their championship game to have a shot at the BCS.
Any comments that includes they haven't lost in 2 years doesn't understand NCAA football at all. What they did last year counts for nothing .