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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:16 PM
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Did Ferentz take a dive?

I know it sounds absurd, and I'm only half serious,  but how else can you explain the last 5 minutes of that game?  

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:18 PM | Easy... (Score:5 Normal)
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Ferentz is incompetent. 

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:58 PM | Tire Fire (Score:2 Normal)
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You are what you are.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:19 PM | That was the single most (Score:5 Normal)
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That was the single most conservative game of football I have ever seen in my life, and I've watched old YouTubve videos of midwestern schools going up against each other in 1970. If Kirk Ferentz has the ability to be employed as a football head coach in America, it explains the USA's economic decline.

Iowa clearly needs a lesson in cutthroat captialism. Too much money to have fossils driving at the wheel

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:23 PM | Greg Davis (Score:5 Normal)
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The Iowa OC has been incompetent since his days as the Texas OC.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:24 PM | He's def part of the (Score:1)
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He's def part of the equation. Why the hell would anyone ever hire him? To drink with him? Their offense has regressed BADLY. Insanely. Throwing 5 yard outs after 30 secs roll off the clock...with 2 minutes left in the game? WTF

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:36 PM | Why would RR hire GERG? The (Score:5 Normal)
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Why would RR hire GERG? The coaching business is a good 'ol boy club and sometimes empirical evidence of success just doesn't matter.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 8:21 PM | i heard gerg has two more (Score:0 Flamebait)
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i heard gerg has two more super rings then you

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November 23rd, 2012 at 11:09 PM | He also took a mediocre (Score:5 Normal)
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He also took a mediocre Syracuse team and pounded it into the ground...something I never did.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 5:02 PM | Drinking with conservatives (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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Drinking with conservatives never works out well. Either theyre really boring or they go bat-shit crazy.

I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?

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November 23rd, 2012 at 5:18 PM | Huffington Post (Score:5 Normal)
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That blog is down the hall and to your left. Have fun, sorry about the vomit on your shoes.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 5:02 PM | Drinking with conservatives (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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Drinking with conservatives never works out well. Either theyre really boring or they go bat-shit crazy.

I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?

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November 23rd, 2012 at 5:02 PM | Drinking with conservatives (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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Drinking with conservatives never works out well. Either theyre really boring or they go bat-shit crazy.

I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?

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November 23rd, 2012 at 5:13 PM | The qb is not the problem. (Score:5 Normal)
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The qb is not the problem. Vandenberg threw for 3000yards and 25/7 tds to INTs last year. Ferentz and Davis turned him into a pathetic wash up this season.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 5:40 PM | What Happened In The Passing Game... (Score:3 Normal)
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By the numbers, this is  where the deficit over last year is apparent. The final line for Iowa last year in the passing game was 240/412 for  3,052 yards, good for 7.41 yard per attempt and 14.4 yards per completion. Their final line for this year will be 222/389 for 1,460 yards, or 3.75 yards per attempt and 6.57 yards per completion. That's...significant, and that's two OCs at work. Vandenberg is a serviceable pocket passer, so there's a lot of coaching in this, I suspect. 

I will also add here that they fell off in rushing totals over last year, but not quite to the above scale. 

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November 23rd, 2012 at 7:43 PM | Coaching? (Score:2)
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Or Marvin McNutt?

Last year's coordinator had the best WR in the league to work with. This year's coordinator has...well, I'll be kind and just say that he doesn't. And the only RB standing was happy, at the beginning of the season, to have beaten out five others to be the co-second-string fullback.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 5:04 PM | F me. Quadruple post. (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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F me. Quadruple post.

I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:59 PM | Yeah (Score:5 Normal)
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You should really be more conservative with your drinking.

not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:27 PM | Not only is Ferentz employed, (Score:3 Normal)
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Not only is Ferentz employed, he is one of the highest paid college coaches in the country.  Last list I saw he was #6 @ $3.9 M / yr.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 5:11 PM | Most conservative game? (Score:1)
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I don't know but that M-OSU game in 2007(?) when Henne had the bad arm was pretty damn conservative.  Carr vs. Tressel with OSU basically just running out the clock in the second half.

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November 24th, 2012 at 10:37 AM | Maybe (Score:2)
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Maybe Carr was conservative because of Henne's arm, the weather, and the fact that Manningham couldn't catch a pass to save his life that day.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 7:44 PM | The Second Half (Score:2)
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was nearly unbearable to watch. Iowa posessions:

 

Plays      Result

6               Int

3               Punt

6               Punt

3               Punt

3               Punt

3               Int

 

Yeeeeeeesh.

 

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:19 PM | I was thinking the same (Score:1 Normal)
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But really why would he?

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November 23rd, 2012 at 9:17 PM | Urban man-crush? (Score:1)
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Urban man-crush?

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:20 PM | Two words: (Score:4 Normal)
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Greg Fucking Davis.

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November 24th, 2012 at 12:53 AM | that was three words (Score:3 Normal)
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that was three words

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November 24th, 2012 at 1:15 AM | No, two words. Remember, this (Score:2)
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No, two words. Remember, this is Iowa, home of receivers with hyphenated last names. Like so: GERG Fucking-Davis

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:20 PM | This is crazy. It's senior (Score:3 Normal)
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This is crazy. It's senior day, at home, a chance to beat a fake rival. The answer should be "GOD NO!" But after seeing that... Damn. I think a better explanation is Iowa is just a tire fire.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:21 PM | He's a terrible coach but (Score:1)
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He's a terrible coach but lets not get carried away. Iowa is terrible and they have been all year.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:37 PM | That doesn't explain the play (Score:1)
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That doesn't explain the play calling and tempo at the end of the game.  I don't really think he took a dive but the only other expalnation is that he is an idiot but that is not the case - puntasaurus yes - idiot no.   Really hard to understand. 

jbibiza

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:40 PM | You assume (Score:1 Overrated)
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that "terrible coaching" and "terrible players" are independent things. They are not. Iowa is terrible partially because their coaching has been terrible. Ferentz is a puntosaur, and Greg fricking Davis is one of the most incompetent OCs I have ever seen. I think they attempted one throw of greater than 10 yards in teh 4th quarter. When they were losing by a touchdown and had the wind at their backs. Meanwhile, on a 3rd and 4 he decided on an utterly obvious run that went for 1 yard...and from there Ferentz took over by punting on a 4th and 3 from midfield with just 7 minutes left. I mean...come on, man. 

The Vandenberg interception was lol bad after that (again on another called completely unsurprising short pass), but they lost the game on the two-play sequence to end thier next-to-last drive of the game.

I'm not a lunatic. Seriously, i'm not.

Ok, maybe just a little bit. 

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:13 PM | Did either side complete a (Score:3 Normal)
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Did either side complete a pass thrown more than ten yards downfield at any point in the game? I'm having trouble remembering one. Martinez hit the one over the middle to Cotton, I guess, and Vandenberg might have completed one in the first quarter. The success rate was low, though.

A gusting and swirling 30 mph wind isn't conducive to a downfield passing game whether you're going with the wind or against it.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 8:30 PM | Yeah, both teams did. Iowa (Score:2)
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Yeah, both teams did. Iowa did not, however, in the second half.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:23 PM | Trust me he did not take a (Score:0 Normal)
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Trust me he did not take a dive, this team has look like this all year. That QB is terrible and should have been benched a long time ago. I’m not sure what Iowa has on their bench but it has to better than this.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:28 PM | Yea, it's all Vandenberg.  (Score:3 Insightful)
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Yea, it's all Vandenberg.  What's on their bench is a true freshman who nobody knows anything about; probably not better. This offensive scheme is the culprit this season, not James Vandenberg.  He went from being a pretty decent QB the past few years under KOK to what we just witnessed.  Some blame belongs to him, sure, as he does make mistakes.  Much of what has occured this year, though, is a product of a terrible offensive sheme that didn't click what-so-ever amonst the whole offense, the whole season.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 5:05 PM | I think it's both. The OC is (Score:2)
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I think it's both. The OC is spectacularly incompetent, but Vandenberg looks like he's getting ready for a nap on each offensive series. No spark, no leadership. You can see why the team identity became Weisman as soon as he did anything remotely positive.

Was he hurt? If his arm is jelly it may explain some of the conservatism earlier in the year. But not today.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:29 PM | The qb is not the problem. (Score:5 Normal)
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The qb is not the problem. Vandenberg threw for 3000yards and 25/7 tds to INTs last year. Ferentz and Davis turned him into a pathetic wash up this season.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:31 PM | Wait, I'm a little unclear. (Score:4 Normal)
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Wait, I'm a little unclear. Is the QB the problem?

"The straightest line from A to B is straight: From A to B"

"When you have Denard Robinson, you can have everything"

~George Walden

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:33 PM | You can say that again! (Score:3 Normal)
Blue Durham
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And again, and again, and again...

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:31 PM | . (Score:4 Normal)
Skapanza
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MGoPoints: 184

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:31 PM | . (Score:4 Normal)
Skapanza
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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:30 PM | Or like, pentapost (Score:4 Normal)
Skapanza
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November 23rd, 2012 at 8:38 PM | Congrats... (Score:3 Normal)
amphibious1
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Your posts were accidently more prolific than the Iowa offense.

Florida Wolverines have dreadlocks...

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:29 PM | Mods please delete (Score:4 Normal)
Skapanza
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Sorry double post

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:30 PM | Wow that's a lot of lime (Score:4 Normal)
TheGhostofYost
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Wow that's a lot of lime green.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:31 PM | Uh, I counted 5. (Score:4 Normal)
Red is Blue
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Uh, I counted 5.

"Is There Anybody Out There?" Pink Floyd, The Wall.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:23 PM | It was a pretty shi**y (Score:2 Normal)
B-Nut-GoBlue
Joined: 09/30/2011
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It was a pretty shi**y performance.  The real problem may be the OC Greg Davis.  WTF kind of offense is he trying to run?  He may be the one taking a dive and corrupting the Iowa program.  That offense is/was straight sh*t  I live in Iowa near Iowa City, I saw it every week.  James vandenberg went from a decent to good QB the past few years, under Ken O'Keefe for Christ sakes, and was turned into what we all just watched.  That was actually a better game he's played this year.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:37 PM | It is beyond me how anyone (Score:5 Underrated)
ESNY
Joined: 11/06/2008
MGoPoints: 687

It is beyond me how anyone can call Ferentz a good coach.   That was one of the worst coached game I have seen.  

Punting at the Neb 31

Getting an illegal substitution penalty out of a timeout

Not loading the box when you know Nebraska is running the ball. 

Showing zero sense of urgency down by 6 with 3 minutes left.  Routinely letting the play clock run down with the clock running.   Calling the same play over and over agin when everyone knows its coming.   A senior QB having zero idea how to run a 2 minute offense...

I know he has an obscenely overpriced contract (how he got that is beyond me) and a huge buyout but how is this man still not fired?   And the fact that this team has four wins and is playing at home, and he's playing the game like he's up 14 and trying to run the clock out.... unreal

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:56 PM | I know the whole "they're (Score:2)
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I know the whole "they're professional coaches and I'm not" thing matters, but seriously. I can't call that a conservative gameplan, because that would imply someone on the coaching staff had a plan at all. Maybe Ferentz and co. are good at developing talent behind the scenes, but when it comes to game time they don't just look bad, they look inept. You didn't outline anything rare, or difficult that they can't do, you outlined basic fundamental things just about every high school coach in America can do in their sleep, yet this B1G coach gets paid millions of dollars to continuously struggle with. Iowa should not only clean house and bring one of the Stoops brothers back home, they should ask Ferentz for their money back.

"that's why you don't go to Ohio State, Lawrence"

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:36 PM | Iowa deserved to lose that game, but I feel sorry.... (Score:1)
True Blue Grit
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for the players after the incredibly incompetent play calling and slow offense at the end of the game.  His huge contract buyout notwithstanding, it's time for Ferentz to go.  Iowa football has become embarassing.

"You owe it to every man, woman, and child in the State of Michigan to beat the Buckeyes and silence their fans!  Now go out there and make it happen!"

- Bo Schembechler (Result: U-M 22  OSU 0)

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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:37 PM | No dive - just a really bad (Score:1)
GoBlueInIowa
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No dive - just a really bad team that has an awful OC.

 

"No man is more important than The Team. No coach is more important than The Team. The Team, The Team, The Team"

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