A state friend of mine posted this on his facebook, and it's pretty interesting/incriminating. You decide...
so much for that
Did Crean tell Sheehey to flop?
February 26th, 2013 at 11:43 PM
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Did Crean tell Sheehey to flop?
February 26th, 2013 at 11:44 PM | 
Fail embed on the original
Fail embed on the original
February 26th, 2013 at 11:46 PM |
What did he post?
What did he post?
What did he post?
EDIT: Nevermind
February 27th, 2013 at 12:36 AM |
Upvoted because
Upvoted because
wasn't fair for you to get negged for asking a legitimate question when nothing was there.
I love Greg Mattison
February 27th, 2013 at 8:02 AM |
Someone was down voted for a
Someone was down voted for a
Someone was down voted for a stupid reason?! That never happens on this blog!
Not that I loved Rich Rod less, but that I loved Michigan more.
February 27th, 2013 at 11:29 AM |
Down voted
Down voted
For hippy haircut.
I miss the old point systems for the pos bangs, and even more fun, the neg bangs. Sigh
"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest." -Mark Twain
February 26th, 2013 at 11:45 PM |
One more video of the actual play
One more video of the actual play
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February 26th, 2013 at 11:58 PM |
What's worse
What's worse
The obvious flop from Sheehey, or the play-by-play guys defending and encouraging it?
February 27th, 2013 at 12:04 AM |
Dakich can
Dakich can
Dakich can go to hell. I swear he is the worst announcer I've heard in the past 5 years at least. He even tried to bring up that "many people" aka state fans and him believe zeller tried to pull nix's arm into his crotch.
February 27th, 2013 at 12:14 AM |
He is a terrible announcer,
He is a terrible announcer,
He is a terrible announcer, but he's actually right about the Zeller/Nix play.
February 27th, 2013 at 12:17 AM |
"many people" and him... and
"many people" and him... and
"many people" and him... and me
February 27th, 2013 at 12:50 AM |
I'm not a fan
I'm not a fan
I think that broadcasters should be limited to calling games with teams that they played for. It's aggravating listening to Jalen call a Michigan game, or Clark Kellogg doing an OSU game.
It would help avoid extreme bias like this from a nationally televised game, because you know he doesn't say this if it's anyone besides Indiana. No way he encourages a Gopher to flop if the roles are reversed.
February 27th, 2013 at 11:27 AM |
Tommy Heinson doing NBA games
Tommy Heinson doing NBA games
Tommy Heinson doing NBA games back in the 80's & 90's for CBS was the worst. Because they were so good, the Celtics were often on the CBS slate. He was the worst homer I've ever heard.
February 27th, 2013 at 8:10 AM |
Announcer's opinions
Announcer's opinions
Why do we have to listen to the announcer's opinions? What ever happened to just calling the game?????
February 27th, 2013 at 9:54 AM |
I don't know if you saw his
I don't know if you saw his
I don't know if you saw his heated exchange with former MBB player Anthony Wright on twitter.
When the ADept sells special jerseys and gear, you'll see my picture next to the targeted customer crowd. A sheep.....but a Blue one.....
February 27th, 2013 at 3:34 AM |
While I'm not sure what he was going for
While I'm not sure what he was going for
When you frame something with "the way things are going in college basketball" that usually doesn't mean you're actually encouraging it-- it's more a criticism of how something is being called or handled, but being realistic about how teams will take advantage.
But again, I'm not sure what point he was trying to make... whether it's touch fouls to the head, or instant replay or what.
February 27th, 2013 at 1:29 AM |
On this same play even, it
On this same play even, it
On this same play even, it looks like Oladipo just flat out tackles whomever he's guarding.
Lived the Dream. 2008-2012
February 27th, 2013 at 10:25 AM |
Hot chick in Green
Hot chick in Green
The best thing about this whole fake is how I constantly replayed the 1:55 mark or the hot blonde at the scorers table. Can someone just get a loop of her closer up?
Choose Michigan because it is MICHIGAN!
February 27th, 2013 at 10:34 AM |
Isn't that Samantha Ponder
Isn't that Samantha Ponder
Isn't that Samantha Ponder (nee Steele)? She's all over the intarwebz I think.
February 27th, 2013 at 12:21 PM |
Pretty sure your right
Pretty sure your right
I couldn't remember her name but I knew she was with ESPN
Choose Michigan because it is MICHIGAN!
February 26th, 2013 at 11:52 PM |
Interesting. I certainly
Interesting. I certainly
Interesting. I certainly wouldn't put it past Crean, and the two videos do warrant some suspicion, especially because Crean yells at the officials right away for a video review.
February 27th, 2013 at 11:31 AM |
At what point does the B1G
At what point does the B1G
At what point does the B1G director of officals say "listen, Indiana has a reputation for flopping and/or trying to draw these types of fouls. Let's not give them the benefit of the doubt."?
Sheehey should have been called for an unsportsmanlike penalty.
February 26th, 2013 at 11:49 PM |
He was laying on his elbow,
He was laying on his elbow,
He was laying on his elbow, it looked like. And his reaction was really late.
Looks like a flop.
2011 Nebraska State Champ "We're Michigan." @tannerwooten not that funny, though.
February 26th, 2013 at 11:49 PM |
wow
wow
that's bushleague
Buckeye by birth, Wolverine by choice.
February 26th, 2013 at 11:51 PM |
You must really love
You must really love
You must really love following recruits on twitter. To say this is incriminating is a pretty big stretch. Even if he did say that, which I doubt, I really don't have a huge problem with it. Selling a foul is just gamesmanship.
"Michigan Defense" is dominating everything, in every aspect of life. That's a rough definition.
-Craig Roh 10/29/2011
February 26th, 2013 at 11:56 PM |
Selling a foul is
Selling a foul is
Selling a foul is gamesmanship? No, it's not. It's a cheap trick played by desperate teams with no class or pride in what they're doing. And the evidence may not be conclusive, but it's not at all a stretch to say it's incriminating. What else do you think Crean was signaling with that elbow motion?
February 27th, 2013 at 12:20 AM |
Could be telling them to man
Could be telling them to man
Could be telling them to man up on rebounds. Could be telling them to get in tight on the guy so they get a foul if he elbows them in the head and the guy took it too far. Could be telling them to flop. There's no way of knowing. When I saw the thread title though I was expecting to see an obvious mouthing of the word flop or some other variant of the same. I dislike the guy as much as anyone but this is inconclusive at best. And it's up to the refs to figure out if it's a foul or not. What is it when a center falls on his ass to get a charge because a point guard ran into him? What is it when a guy throws up his hands and yells when he loses the ball under the basket? Note carefully I'm saying selling a foul, not faking a foul. There's a difference.
"Michigan Defense" is dominating everything, in every aspect of life. That's a rough definition.
-Craig Roh 10/29/2011
February 27th, 2013 at 12:10 AM |
What a joke!
What a joke!
It is obvious that Crean coached this and it is an embarassment to the coaching profession. He is in effect forcing his players to cheat and lie to get an advantage...That is so SEC. I hope the B1G looks into this and the mainstream media is all over him for this.
How would you feel if this happened against us in a key game and the refs blew the call?? It is NOT just part of the game.
MGoBlog....kinda like crack, but more addicting...
Wolverine Convert
February 26th, 2013 at 11:53 PM |
Probably
Probably
what's that thing they say about the prosperity of cheaters? Go Gophers.
I love Greg Mattison
February 27th, 2013 at 12:19 AM |
Karma be a BITCH!
Karma be a BITCH!
Karma be a BITCH!
February 26th, 2013 at 11:53 PM |
Whoa. Definitely looks like
Whoa. Definitely looks like
Whoa. Definitely looks like it.
I work with a guy who went to High School with Crean and he says he's just one of those guys who will do absolutely anything to win regardless of morals and ethics. FWIW
I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?
February 27th, 2013 at 3:53 AM |
Ehh
Ehh
I went to school with Hitler and he was a nice guy with a fro and liked to paint. Or maybe that was Bob Ross.
February 26th, 2013 at 11:54 PM |
Without question
Without question
I'm sure he teaches them to flop. The rules about elbows are terrible. Even if he did get hit, which he didn't, he was crouching, trying to get below the Minnesota player's arms from behind. I wish they called flagrants on flopping. If they're already going to the monitor, it's easy to see.
February 27th, 2013 at 12:22 AM |
Flopping
Flopping
is one of the handful of things the NBA does right, but I can't think of the other four . . .
I love Greg Mattison
February 27th, 2013 at 12:00 AM |
Zeller and Nix
Zeller and Nix
It would fit right in with my interpretation of the Zeller & Nix play last week...Crean is a huge d-bag. OSU fans have seen this more than Michigan fans, but it's real.
It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra
February 26th, 2013 at 11:55 PM |
What? An Indiana basketball
What? An Indiana basketball
What? An Indiana basketball coach is a jack ass? Who would ever believe such a thng?
February 27th, 2013 at 12:02 AM |
And a
And a
And a disciple of Tom Izzo none the less! Shocker!
Practice makes perfect. Unless you're the Buckeyes. Then you have to cheat.
February 26th, 2013 at 11:59 PM |
It's No Diferent...
It's No Diferent...
...than "flopping on a drive" to get the charge call. It is up to the Refs to get it right.
Tonight they did.
L.S.A. '88
February 27th, 2013 at 12:09 AM |
It's quite different
It's quite different
Firstly, if the ref's get it wrong, a kid can be thrown out of the game.
Secondly, it can have a much larger impact on the score. Two shots and the ball is huge.
Thirdly, and arguably most importantly, it's abusing a rule that is designed to protect kids. The point is to try to prevent concussions. But Crean coached Sheehey to contort himself under that players elbow and try to get hit in the head, or make it look that way. It flies in the face of anything resembling sportsmanship. It should in itself be a flagrant, and possibly a suspendible offense, for player and coach.
February 27th, 2013 at 12:33 AM |
IMO, No It Isn't.
IMO, No It Isn't.
1. If (when) refs get it wrong, it always impacts the score/game.
2. Any foul, including a +1 may involve a momentum or point shift.
3. Coaching a kid to flop on a drive, taking out a drive for a dunk against a poor FT shooter and any number of tactics may result in concussion or injury.
4. Conjecture: "But Crean coached Sheehey to contort himself under that players elbow and try to get hit in the head, or make it look that way. "
5. An "acting" foul to prevent such actions, including +2 and the ball for the affronted team might mitigate some of the Hollywood nonsense.
L.S.A. '88
February 27th, 2013 at 1:18 AM |
Or
Or
In this case, I think the offending coach should be subject to two free shots to the junk ala Nix/Zeller, it might send a much more clear and to the point response to clear up this issue.
"You're gonna eat lightning, and you're gonna crap thunder!"
February 27th, 2013 at 12:03 AM |
Yellow card.
Yellow card.
Yellow card.
"Welllllllll..."
February 27th, 2013 at 10:35 AM |
Ya, I think they're a great
Ya, I think they're a great
Ya, I think they're a great band. What about you?
February 27th, 2013 at 12:03 AM |
When something like an elbow
When something like an elbow
When something like an elbow happens at such a convenient time for a time that is down late in the game, it really has to be egregious for them to call it.
February 27th, 2013 at 12:04 AM |
double, sorry.
double, sorry.
double, sorry.
February 27th, 2013 at 12:10 AM |
My takeaway
My takeaway
1:55 -- Samantha Ponder is drop dead gorgeous.
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- Jack Handey
February 27th, 2013 at 12:39 AM |
DAMN YOU CHRISTIAN PONDER!
DAMN YOU CHRISTIAN PONDER!
DAMN YOU CHRISTIAN PONDER!
February 27th, 2013 at 12:15 AM |
Granted, it was a flop, but
Granted, it was a flop, but
Granted, it was a flop, but I've seen more dramatic flops with much less contact involved. Also, I hardly find an 8 second clip with no sound from Crean necessarily incriminating. As lame as it may be if Crean did tell him to flop, with every possible elbow to face being reviewed on the monitor, the way I see it is if the guy legitimately and flagrantly gets elbowed above the shoulders, who cares about his overreaction (or in some cases, lack thereof; a flagrant is a flagrant. If it was a non-reviewable play, I'd care a lot more.
February 27th, 2013 at 12:22 AM |
I don't the the integrity of
I don't the the integrity of
I don't think the integrity of the game should depend on our ability to go to a video monitor.
February 27th, 2013 at 12:53 AM |
Alas, that's the way things
Alas, that's the way things
Alas, that's the way things are, regardless of what anyone else feels the game should be. I personally prefer knowing that replay is there when needed, and on a sidenote, I can't wait for baseball to more fully join the replay party.
February 27th, 2013 at 1:02 AM |
As long as Bud Selig is the
As long as Bud Selig is the
As long as Bud Selig is the commish the replay machine will remain buried under cobwebs. It's infuriates me that my favorite sport is so far behind the times, it's a joke to not have safe/out calls as part of the replay system.
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