I woke up and realized that we have 28 slots for 2012, with 23 verbal commits and 4 target left (Diamond/Grant/Muller/Henry). Assign each target a possibility factor:
That gives us 2.45 commits. From what I learned on "Super Sunday", I will take 2 out of the 4.
Are we going to bank 3 schollies, or we just rub more snake oil to commits of Purdues? Who else is a realistic target?
See the other 8 threads for your answers.
Signing day is always full of
Signing day is always full of surprises. We'll see what happens.
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Lets just get diamond
and bank the rest. If some of these others chose to commit well then fine. I just think we can use these scholarships next year and get quality. Unless someone has a revelation ( garnett) and changes their mind we should be happy with the amazing class we already have.
Agreed
I would take any of those listed above and bank the 2-3 scholarships. Our class will be smaller next year and any misses this year at the end will just lead to more slots next year. Take an OL, TE, and Project DT, and bank the rest.
disagree
with the massive depth issues at OL, there is no way they bank 3 scholarships, especially when there is natural attrition every year.
if we don't get the four guys listed above, i think we lower our sights to some 3* prospects at OL and CB.
well if you pay attention to
well if you pay attention to tremendous twitter, the coaches were at good counsel earlier this week and they weren't there for O'daniel or fuller... speculation time??? Diggs again?? trying to keep the purdue pipe line open with ryan watson?? just making good with the coaches? the possibilities..
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Has Diggs visited?
No.
Then that would be a miracle
Then that would be a miracle if he even considered us for his decision.
He's not deciding until
He's not deciding until February 10th.
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Dan Gibbs
OT - Smart kid - wants to go to Michigan. 3* - 6'7"
That would be a reach.
That would be a reach.
Banking
Since 3 of the 28 come from special B1G conference petitioned allowance over 25, I am not sure we can just bank them. I thought you had to get those through extenuating circumstances and apply for them again next year instead of banking them.
Experts?
There are no extenuating
There are no extenuating circumstances associated with 25+3. A school may only have 85 at any time, 25 per class, and up to 3 early enrollees may count towards last year's class. If M signs 25 this year, next year would have a hard cap of 25, since no early enrollees in winter 2013 could count towards this class.
I don't think this is right.
If Michigan signs 28 this year, 25 would be a hard cap next year. Because 3 have already enrolled early this year, if UM signs 25, only 22 of them would count towards the 2012 signing period. Therefore we could sign 3 EEs next year. That said, I believe the 85 number will be the limiting factor next year, not the 25.
I don't think you have to get special permission from the Big Ten, I think the +3 is just a hard cap. I think the only rule is you can never sign more than 28 in one class
If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?
You are allowed 25 per class.
You are allowed 25 per class. The NCAA allows you to count recruits toward the previous year if there is room in the previous class and they recruit enrolls early. The Big Ten limits the number you can count toward the previous class to 3. So, we had 3 enroll early and count toward last year's recruiting class. With 23 recruits, that means 20 will count toward this year. Basically, we have room for 2 more before we start limiting the number of scholarships we can give out next year. If we end up with 26 in the class (23 against this year), then we will only be able to give out 27 scholarships next year. If we fill up, then we will be limited to 25.
The 2013 class is full of great prospects, so....
banking scholarships would be fine. However, getting a TE like Grant would almost be the biggest need for 2012 where we stand today. In the future, I'd be happy if we have all of our needs filled well before signing day (probably a dream) and the coaches probably would like that too. Trying to win these last-second battles against the snake-oil salesmen of college football is always going to be difficult. History has shown that Michigan doesn't usually close strongly in late January/early February. We HAVE gotten some good players then, but it's been the exception rather than the norm. It doesn't bother me as long as we kick butt through most of the rest of the season like we did this year. And going forward, I see us closing successfully on more highly rated players now that the coaches have had more time to build relationships with them. Go Blue!
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- Bo Schembechler (Result: U-M 22 OSU 0)
there's no need to bank any
there's no need to bank any of the scholarships. each of the available prospects is at a position of need. that doesn't mean that we can't take other prospects next year at the same positions.
Package or local deals
Robert Gregory - Simeon
Vangelo Bentley - Glenville
Beg Hiva Lutui
Local Kyle Knapp, Kelby Latta for more center sized players.
The talk around Latta is he is going to MSU, so probably not an option....
BTN broadcast guy talking about Nik Stauskas~" He is the best import since Molson"
Latta is committed to CMU and
Latta is committed to CMU and doesn't have an MSU offer.
I know. He is considering a walk on spot at MSU.
BTN broadcast guy talking about Nik Stauskas~" He is the best import since Molson"
This kid is a mess
This kid was high on the radar early in the summer before he played his senior year. I have seen this kid play and would rather we bank the scholarship. Over the summer he showed up to camps expecting to just be great without putting in the time or effort. Decided to take plays off and never actually reached his potential.
Off the field he is a mess too. Should have been suspended during the season for off the field issues and has even more baggage that I am not going to get into. I am not even sure that MSU would jump at him with what he brings to the table. Kind of a wasted talent.
Jerimy
Finch, Jai Eugene, Sean Parker.
What's the status on Rojo?
What's the status on Rojo?
M'Dog
Just sign them...
Just sign those 4 and move on to 2013...bank the 28th unless it's on Gregory.
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I love these threads
I love these threads
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Just listen to me and you'll
Just listen to me and you'll know. I predicted yesterday that we wouldn't get Kozan, Grant, Reeves, or Diamond. I also predicted Garnett to Stanford. I think Michigan will sign four more kids. Henry being one of them and probably that Gibbs kid that only has MAC offers. I have no clue who the other two will be. Basically I'm A better source than Sam Webb. ;)
GO BLUE!
Congrats, Nostradamus...
I'm sure you also won the lottery - now how about you let the coaches worry about who they recruit and put on the field?
Abercrombie and Hollister are having a sale on pink polo shirts tomorrow, I am guessing you are a guy that would find that information useful.
You know, Dude, I myself dabbled in pacifism once. Not in 'Nam of course.
YOU picked Garnett to
YOU picked Garnett to Stanford?!? Wow that's impressive, out of 120 D1 schools you narrowed it down to Stanford, that takes talent. I mean it's not like Garnett gave out 2 schools and you were just being a contrarian douche who just happened to be right. No, what you did takes serious talent
If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?
I like Sam Webb
I thought that Reeves and Garnett were basically less than 50%. Madaris, who cares. Therefore thhis is no shocker.
Stars don't mreasure heart and you don't want a kid who's heart is somehere else.
You want a prediction: Russell Bellomy is your starting QB in 2013 as long as he doesn't transfer (of course).
You're that blind squirrel...
...I've always heard about! You found your nuts!
Some kind of lizard-squirrel, I guess?!
this is seriously outrageous
This place is more insufferable than after a loss in the RR era. Do we need to go into damage control board rules?
We have a "OMGZ R RECRUITIN SUX. WEZ R DUMED." post more frequently than we had "CC" threads last January.
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People are losing patience I
People are losing patience I guess.
It should stop when we pick up our next recruit (whoever that may be).
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Go Blue!
Lets retire the whole.....
Lets retire the whole "Buckle Up" thing....it hasnt really payed off so far.
My self-esteem is directly related to my MgoPoints.
Omg
Thank you so much.
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Hmm...
I agree. Lets change it to "hold on to your dong" just in case it gets punched.
Florida Wolverines have dreadlocks...
perfect
and a very safe move
Its called a royale with cheese
There are so many phrases
There are so many phrases that get overused around here - buckle up, Ohio, manball, etc. It gets kind of annoying that people around here latch onto catchphrases and repeat them ad nauseam. I guess people think they're being clever when they refer to The Ohio State University as "Ohio" instead of the more accurate terms like "Ohio State" or "OSU."
It is ohio!
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okay...
It's about as considerate as being called "that school up north," but much more considerate than being called scUM.
Florida Wolverines have dreadlocks...
that's because the football
that's because the football coach, Brady Hoke, refers to them as Ohio as well. Magnus, you seem very angry lately
“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler
I'm able to think for myself
I'm able to think for myself and not repeat everything our football coach says. That's why "Ohio" and "tremendous" aren't a part of my daily vocabulary.
I'm not angry at all. Just stating observations.
well I hope everyone is able
well I hope everyone is able to do that, but this is a Michigan blog. Heck even Belien referred to them as Ohio this weekend.
Not sure why they put your comment as flamebait.....
“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler
I'm a very polarizing
I'm a very polarizing character. Some people love me (Americans, Miranda Kerr, Nobel Peace Prize winners, etc.). Other people hate me (fascists, racists, David Duke, the Dutch, etc.).
Other people hate me
Hey, any football coach who can laugh at David Sedaris can't be all bad.
Yeah....
.....I could see the "buckle up" thing turning into a rallying cry if we would of actually landed Brionte Dunn (when it was first introduced by Tom VH)...howeva since we did not land him (or any recruit since) I cant see why this has turned into somthing so popular when it has produced 0 results.
tl;dr: I blame "buckle up" for everything.
My self-esteem is directly related to my MgoPoints.
What will be the crutch of
What will be the crutch of the people who aren't funny and don't have anything interesting to say in regards to recruiting then?
And you're right, everytime someone says we should "buckle up" nothing good happens. I blame all of you for our misfortunes.
Special Teams means special times!
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"... never forget that Ohio is still a four-letter word."
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