I just went from 6 to midnight
Devin still might be able to EE!!!!!!!
that you did
I understood what that meant
Actually Devin Gardner telling us how he felt after he found out there still is a chance. You still have a right to feel disturbed though.
I use that quote all of the time. Equally classy: Do you know what gets my dick hard? Helping out a friend.
Last time I laughed that hard, I fell of my DINOSOUR!!!
(step brother quote)
when I had my first beer!
If it lasts for more than four hours, don't forget to consult your doctor
if it lasts more than four hours call more ladies
The last day to register for classes is Monday and he's already admitted if i'm not mistaken. This is very good news!
Crap! think of all the schoolwork he has to catch up on.
It would be nice to have him around for Spring practice.
This is some good news to start the weekend.
This kid is hell-bent on starting his UM career. I can't imagine how stressful it'd be sneaking into college last minute (aside from being a highly-touted student athlete) right before the winter semester enrollment deadline. Best of luck, Devin.
Yeah - my only concern is about his academics. Not necessarily that he can't hack it in the classroom, but that he's starting out in college (a big enough transition in itself) and has missed some class time off the bat.
and I cannot imagine, given that, what Inkster was thinking. But the only issue, if this report is accurate, and if M "readmits" him, then I assure you there will be enough study table and personal tutoring to make sure he makes the grade. From what I understand, he's a pretty intelligent kid, too.
I think you have a better chance of Tate playing better because of Devin. Devin will not beat out Tate. And if he does, we are in trouble. I am so excited about Gardner, but I don't like the idea of yet another freshmen QB running our offense. The main thing we are lacking on offense is experience, and Tate has one year under his belt. Gardner is raw, and he has alot to work on. In a perfect word, he redshirts and starts his sophmore year.
I may be alone, but I was at peace with him not enrolling early, getting a redshirt, and having time to develop properly so he can be stud QB for us in a couple of years.
For 3 years we have been having only freshmen and walk-on's at QB for our biggest games like OSU. It is time for some sane, orderly QB development.
I completely agree with you. If there is one player that needs to EE the least, it's DG, since I truly hope he redshirts this year. First of all, if at any point he's our best QB option, we're in trouble. Secondly, I want 2 years of DG after Tate graduates.
Young QB's can succeed in college, but rarely do they play to the level of their upperclassmen counterparts. Let DG watch Tate and Denard this year, learn the playbook, learn to throw, and get in great shape. He can then play sporadically while Tate is an upperclassman and take over the position as a RS Junior. He will have some game experience, 3 years learning the offense, and just as importantly, 2 years to start. This is the ideal progression in my mind, and DG enrolling early helps this negligibly at best.
fact that we dont really have a viable backup. Robinson can get better and I am a huge fan and hope he does get better as a QB. But we dont really know if he will make those strides going into next year. We need Gardner to EE to get the reps and hope one of them can be a solid backup becuase odds are we will need them at some point.
I do hope he redshirts and I do hope Robinson makes strides as a QB. But I think we need him to get in early and get all the reps and practice time he can.
This is probably the best explanation I've seen regarding the importance of Devin enrolling early.
I still hope that Tate and Denard are more successful next season due to their first year of experience and have DG reshirt, but in the event that Denard does not make those strides it would be that much more beneficial for DG to have the extra time in practice.
But we all should hope like hell that he redshirts. I think Denard will be a solid backup and change of pace with a year of experience. Time will tell.
Having a viable passing threat in reserve makes it easier for me to sleep at night, although a redshirt year is the optimum.
And after seeing how elusive the truly effective DE-read-handoff/fake-handoff is (compare Forcier to "Juice" Williams/Mazoli), and how pivotal it is to the RR offense, it's good to give all QB recruits all the time possible to master this delicate conjuring trick before putting them in play.
"if at any point he's our best QB option we are in trouble" Not so sure this is a bad thing.
1. didn't Colt almost set a record for wins as a QB starter? only way that couls happen is if he was starting as a freshman.
2. and probably most important, if Tate is only going to improve as a QB in his 2nd yr and Devin beats him out in great competition isn't that a "good" thing?
in a perfect football world yes he redshirts waits 2yrs behind Tate and then dominates the big10 for 2-3yrs, but if he beats Tate in yr 1 then i see it as a positive.
If at any point Devin is our 2nd best quarterback and there is an injury, RR and I, for two, want him available. I want to enjoy a winning season. RR wants to keep his job. Not to mention the sentiments referred to about the level of competition resulting in better players in general.
Enrolling early means no signing day shenanigans, and I'm all for that.
that Christmas actually does last into January.
...but that would be listed as a 'course requirement'.
OSU takes offense to that: he would be picking out his Corvette there.
With an 8 track.
The IROC Z course has a prerequisite at OSU, Intro Buck 'Stache 101. If you've been a life-long OSU fan though I do believe they waive this requisite for some reason...
i bet that car is worth a lot of money! the IROC Z is a chevy while the Trans Am is the pontiac cousin. but i guess who cares i just drank too much beer and decided to be anal about car models instead of making a decent try at actually commenting on the posts topic.
...but since he's going to UM, he can just borrow Kevin Grady's Escalade instead.
If Gardner enrolls early, nothing you can say will affect our good mood.
...but given the Grady household income, said Escalade is not of questionable provenance.
Better comeback: he could borrow Mo Taylor's Ford Explorer.
Way to be a racist and stereotype. Pathetic.
He drives a Navigator, IIRC. His dad makes bank.
I think you're right. I remember seeing him up at Bells in that car a few times.
Say, did you go to OSU by any chance?
And he has his CDL to prove it...
Ride on 18-wheeler, ride on.
It would be nice to have some viable depth at QB this year. I am with the group here that wants to see him redshirt, but I could imagine him doing the Tim Tebow as a freshman routine near the goal line if he plays. As a poster noted, he has a lot more bulk to throw around than Tate or Denard.
He will never be in a near-the-goaline Tim Tebow package in his career. He is not a physical player, he's a player who wants to be in the open field.
Word is spreading...
Now if only he could convince some of this weekend's visitors what a great place Ann Arbor is. Come on Basketball team, lets win one for Sean Parker.
you mean that the Michigan Football Hating Gods might have cracked a lil smile...No Way! I wont believe it until i see it.
need to get denard on the field somehow, someway
Allen Trieu of Scout posted an interview with an Inkster teacher. Basically the teacher said that the school felt that they couldnt hold Devin back and that he is such a good kid. The board held a special meeting and approved his graduation. The ball is now in M's court.
I'm disturbed knowing that males can get excited over pretty much anything - a young man enrolling in college early, for instance, or bathroom tile. And I'm sure I don't even know the half of it. This blog keeps me on my toes, for sure.
edit - see some of the last entries or this will make no sense.
Sorry, did you want to take a trip to bed, bath, and beyond so you can get excited too?
Stay away from that Beyond section...
Behold the boundlessly limited female worldview...
Thanks you, because I am now going to very boring party, and I will have the memory of this thread to get me through.
I lovingly caressed it, stared at it, wet my finger and rubbed it, and then spent half the freaking summer installing it on my kitchen counter.
You are a real boner sinker...
Sitting, or standing?
And here I thought the "EE!!!!!!!" thing had something to do with Barwis.
Devin is a great kid and it's going to be great to see him on campus....Fall can't come soon enough
I really wish we had some defensive recruits enrolling early. Specifically CC, MRob, and to be greedy another safety. C'est la vie.
to get here early to be able to begin absorbing the play book, get into Barwis shape, and start getting some reps. If that can happen then I do believe he will get at least some playing time this fall and can help the team..
If Gardner plays, that means that Tate and/or Denard have faltered horribly or have gotten injured. If they stay healthy and progress the way that is normal for sophomore QBs, Devin Gardner will redshirt, get Barwisized, learn the playbook, improve his mechanics, and mature. That's the best possible thing for him and for the team. The last thing RR needs is having to start a pure freshman QB for the third year in a row. And if Gardner isn't starting, it would be absolutely crazy to burn his redshirt simply for mop-up duty in blowouts. Let's all be patient and look toward 2011-2014 for Devin.
Based on what little tape I have seen of him, I am inclined to agree with you. He looks raw.
What we do not know, at this point, is his learning curve. If he can learn the offense and outplay Forcier and Denard, he should play.
The rational observer in me knows that he could really use a year on the bench, and that a year at the back end of his college career would be much more valuable...
But then I watch this:
And the irrational fan in me reeeeeeally wants to see him on the field...
The one thing that makes that position a little less irrational is that DG has experience running the zone read already, which is something that Tate didn't have much of before he came. As much as Tate is clearly a better passer, I really wonder how much better Tate will be by the start of the season at making those reads, because let's be honest here for a minute, Tate had A LOT of missed reads on the zone read this year. Basically one of those learning curve type things where since DG has experience in it already he'll pick it up faster.
Tate ran a zone read in HS.
I was under the impression that Tate ran some zone read plays in HS in an offense that was much more spread pass oriented, whereas DG ran offense that is much more similar to what we currently run. My recollection on that could be wrong though. I apologize if it is.
The best player should play, of course.
But, if Tate is not the best player, I'll be disappointed in his lack of improvement. He was light years ahead of DR last year, and from what I've seen, way ahead of DG too.
You win...+1 for you.
This is the absolute truth. We should all be hoping for Tate to take a huge step forward. Our offense was borderline explosive last year, and a reasonable improvement is expected. Tate did OK when he was injured. If he gets better, we'll be great.
I am very pumped for Devin, but I'm most excited for him to redshirt, absorb the offense, and Barwiscize (did anyone claim that term, yet?) In 2011 and 2012 he'll play regular snaps and claim a real piece of our NC.
"Devin Gardner will redshirt"
This memo hasn't reached UM's coaches.
he will push hard for the starting position? Not being combative, just curious. I know in the past you were higher on him than most.
I've never said or thought that he'd beat out Tate and Denard for the starting position. But he brings a physical presence to the table that neither Tate nor Denard can.
I don't have a crystal ball, so who knows what will happen in the spring, summer and fall, but I know for a fact that the UM coaches recruited Devin with the thought of him playing next season. If he gets in early, the chances of that happening only increase.
are creating a hostile blog environment for nose-pickers.
Anyway, in the worst case, this will enhance DG's capacity for dealing with difficult people. (Since he has such a well-established work ethic, it won't matter that dreg roommates will make the film room look more inviting by comparison.)
Well this is just the cats pajamas.
the bee's knees.
to see him play spring ball. I know everyone was excited to see Tate play for the first time in the spring, and if DG comes he should be fun to watch. After that, we shouldn't see him on the field for a while. A redshirt should be in his future.