Per umichfootball twitter
Devin Gardner will start at QB vs. Northwestern, in place of an injured Denard Robinson
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Devin Gardner will start
November 10th, 2012 at 11:33 AM
#1
Devin Gardner will start
November 10th, 2012 at 11:36 AM
#2
For those worrying
This has been known for the better part of the week and confirmed late Thurs. Denard is likely available in the event of injury but still does not have full feeling in his hand, making him the less desirable option.
November 10th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
#3
Bummer, but I don't feel as
Bummer, but I don't feel as anxious as last week after Devin proved himself. Thank God for Devin.
November 10th, 2012 at 11:42 AM
#4
I love Denard's playmaking
I love Denard's playmaking ability and he's a great kid but as a QB I think Devin is a much better option and I think he allows Borges to open up the play book and keep the defense off balance.
November 10th, 2012 at 11:48 AM
#5
I understand why you feel
I understand why you feel that way, and I also think Devin's a great kid with a lot of upside as a quarterback, but Denard has not only set records with his feet. He has moved up the charts in his total yards past some pretty good UM traditional quarterbacks, and except for a few bad games, is a clutch player.
November 10th, 2012 at 1:10 PM
#6
Not all of Denard's records
Not all of Denard's records are desirable ones.
Just sayin...
November 10th, 2012 at 12:55 PM
#7
Really dislike this type of thinking, one good game
against Minnesota does not make Gardner a better option than Denard. The only games Denard has struggled in were against 3 of the best defenses in the country, not remotely similar to facing to Minnesota's defense for Devin last week. I would wager that Devin would of had rough afternoons against those three defenses as well.
Make no mistake about it, Denard is still the best QB on this team, and I honestly I think some people have undervalued him to an extent. I think he is one of those players that willl be appreciated more after he leaves. Is he a great passer, absolutely not, but he does bring the element of being able to break a big play at anytime, and that is a big loss when he doesn't play. Whatever possible gains UM gets in the passing department is not greaterr than the loss of that big play ability and the pressure that Denard's legs put of the defense.
This isn't a knock of Devin, I was impressed with what he did last week, and it made me excited to possibly see what he can do at QB next year, but to suggest that Devin is the better option after one game against a subpar defense is pretty much assanine.
November 10th, 2012 at 2:18 PM
#8
So saying that the all time
leader in total yards in Michigan history is still the better option over a guy who has made 2 total starts against non-elite defenses is somehow flamebait? That is pretty funny. People do realize that in all likelyhood Denard would be having his way with both Minnesota and Northwestern defenses right? These are not the kind of the defenses that have given Denard trouble in his career.
Like I said it really isn't a fair comparison for Denard when he has faced MSU's, Alabama's and ND's defenses and Devin has done well against Minnesota and Northwester so far. Not the same level of competition by any stretch. Denard has had big games against the non-elite defenses on the schedule.
Like I said I am excited about Devin for next year. He has a chance to be a very good QB next year, and has raised the level of optimism for next year. Clearly he is showing some of that ability that made him a 5 star QB out of HS.
Edit: How exactly is this off-topic? Oh well delusional people, will be delusional I guess. I guess that is what I get for defending the all time yards leader in Michigan history.
November 10th, 2012 at 2:24 PM
#9
Talking about how people are
Talking about how people are voting on your posts is almost always good for down votes. That specific moderation isn't available so you might get a variety of them.
At this point I'd go with "redundant".
(two years and nearly 900 points I'm surprised you've missed this)
November 10th, 2012 at 2:49 PM
#10
The point of my second post
was to elaborate more of my initial point. Like I said I just can't believe defending the all time yards in the history of Michigan football is somehow labeled a negative post, specifically when I said I was excited to see Devin at QB next year.
I really don't know what is hard to understand, most of Denard's struggles this year have come against those three elite defenses, otherwise he has been rather dominant. Devin has not seen that caliber of defense, which is why I feel it is way off to be saying that Devin is somehow the better option based on a sample size of 2 games against a different caliber of competition. Like I said for an apples to apples comparison we would have to see how Devin performs against a elite defense until than it is not a fair comparison.
I will concede that Devin seems like a better pure passer, and has better instincts when it comes to scrambling passing plays, but in the big picture the loss of Denard's ability to make a big play any moment and his ability to make up for poor blocking on run plays is a huge loss.
People can think whatever they want, and completing ignore the perfectly valid points I and some others in the thread are making, without making any attempt to try and disprove those points. If your going to label a post as negative when it's not, at least have the guts to try and make a counterpoint. I couldn't care less about points, but come out and make some counterpoints if you disagree with a post.
November 10th, 2012 at 2:59 PM
#11
I don't think anyone is
I don't think anyone is interested in having this conversation. But I am impressed with your ability to take a popular position and drive it off a cliff.
November 10th, 2012 at 3:04 PM
#12
Maybe nobody is interested
in having this conversation, because the minority that feel Devin is the better option can't make a viable argument.
November 10th, 2012 at 3:06 PM
#13
Or because the topic got
Or because the topic got beaten to death all week.
November 10th, 2012 at 3:09 PM
#14
But yet I still see posts in
this thread saying that Devin is the better option, funny how that works. In fact that is the original post I was replying to.
Also just to note I haven't been on MGoBlog most of the week, so I have no idea what has been beaten to death. I apogilize for actually focusing on work, while at work, instead of reading MGoBlog.
November 10th, 2012 at 3:11 PM
#15
Just
Stop
November 10th, 2012 at 11:43 AM
#16
If Denard did play
the second he'd make a mistake...BOOM! "OMG THIS IS WHY DEVIN SHOULD BE QUARTERBACK!"
November 10th, 2012 at 11:45 AM
#17
Based on warm ups...
Denard is better this week but not ready to go.
November 10th, 2012 at 11:49 AM
#18
Wasn't warmups
He'd have had to regain complete feeling in his entire hand and be throwing Brady spirals for him to overturn the decision made earlier this week. I only point this out to show Gardner has been prepped to start all week
November 10th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
#19
I'm anxious about this one
NW is going to be a fight so I hope our team brings it. Good luck to Devin. Go Blue.
November 10th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
#20
So much for that alltime rushing...
Record...
November 10th, 2012 at 11:53 AM
#21
What makes you say that?
If he starts next week (and it sounds like that's very possible) he's got three games to get 305 yards and has an outside chance at a fourth. Also, Iowa and OSU aren't exactly defensive powerhouses, so Denard should definitely get his yards on the ground.
November 10th, 2012 at 12:03 PM
#22
What's the 4th?
...
November 10th, 2012 at 12:07 PM
#23
C'mon now, BIG title game
C'mon now, BIG title game
November 10th, 2012 at 12:09 PM
#24
Iowa, OSU, bowl, outside
Iowa, OSU, bowl, outside (Massy said something like 30%?) at the title game in Indianapolis.
November 10th, 2012 at 12:11 PM
#25
Oh yah
Title game. Good call
November 10th, 2012 at 11:48 AM
#26
Great
Time to see if Gardner is the better option when combined with Borges. He may be the QB that Borges is more comfortable with running his scheme. Borges and Denard just don't seem to mesh well. Plus it is so nice not having to yell "RUNNNN!" as Brian nicely pointed out. How Denard at this point cannot grasp such a simple concept as scrambling baffles me. He would be unstoppable otherwise.
November 10th, 2012 at 11:48 AM
#27
Sucks...
I want to watch Denard play in Blue as many times as I can. He's a great kid and a special athlete.
Don't want to take anything away from Gardner, I just want to enjoy as much Denard as I can.
November 10th, 2012 at 11:56 AM
#28
Drob ROCKS!!
No DOUBT!! Denard is very very special. 10 years from now he will be celebrated the way Woodson, Hart, Desmond, & Henne are now. People will who are saying he stinks now or that Devin should play will look back and say he was one HECK OF A PLAYER & LEADER!!! We only have a few more games to watch a player on our team that is going to the college football hall of fame someday.
GO BLUE!!
November 10th, 2012 at 11:53 AM
#29
Us Michigan fans are always
Us Michigan fans are always anxious no matter what the circumstances.
NW has a more dangerous offense than Minn. DG is going to have to put some points on the board. My anxiety is at its usual level: the maximum.
November 10th, 2012 at 11:55 AM
#30
I don't want to start a shit
I don't want to start a shit storm but I want to know if anyone has heard this rumor.
Denards mother does not want him to play the rest of the season because of his injury and how it may affect his NFL draft status.
I heard this from a guy I consider close to the program, but couldn't believe it. Just wanted to throw it out there.
November 10th, 2012 at 12:02 PM
#31
Yeah
Cuz that dovetails perfectly with Denard's personality and character exhibited in four years here.
November 10th, 2012 at 12:07 PM
#32
Those were my thoughts
Those were my thoughts exactly, which is why it bothered me. Thats the only reason why I posted that on here to see if anyone else has heard the same thing.
November 10th, 2012 at 12:03 PM
#33
100% false
Injury is a surgery away from being fixed, meaning no NFL impact, while he toughs out season and tries to be capable of playing
November 10th, 2012 at 12:37 PM
#34
How do you know?
How do you know?
November 10th, 2012 at 12:53 PM
#35
All indications
Are it's the nerve damage issue Brian highlighted on the front page. As he's far from a projected QB in the nfl, and it's his inability to throw a tight, accurate spiral, such an NFL worry makes zero sense versus a head injury or the like
November 10th, 2012 at 3:23 PM
#36
Hand strength and grip are
Hand strength and grip are serious issues though. That hinders catching and ball security. Serious concerns.
November 10th, 2012 at 12:11 PM
#37
Well good thing Denard's
Well good thing Denard's mother doesn't coach the team.
November 10th, 2012 at 11:56 AM
#38
Denard at Less Than 100% Hand Strength
Is not going to be a huge help to the team. N'Western is pretty good against the run, so we'll have to be able to pass today to get things opened up. Also, with admittedly little knowledge of this type of injury, ne shouldn't be put in a position where he might do long-term damage. That said, if he is able to go, but just can't throw, would not be end of the world to see him line up in the backfield with Garnder once or twice.
November 10th, 2012 at 12:09 PM
#39
Fuck I'm
Really bummed!!! I wanted D-Rob to break Pat Whites records for most yards ever and now that's probably not gonna happen
November 10th, 2012 at 12:18 PM
#40
Full faith in DG to get the
Full faith in DG to get the job done. These are the moments he's been waiting on his whole life.
November 10th, 2012 at 12:19 PM
#41
Good luck to Devin - We'll be
Good luck to Devin - We'll be rooting for him the whole game. Go Blue!
November 10th, 2012 at 12:25 PM
#42
So be it.
So be it.
November 10th, 2012 at 12:28 PM
#43
Is there any word how close
Is there any word how close he was to starting?
November 10th, 2012 at 12:52 PM
#44
From people I talked to
He was 30% chance, the positive being the bar was raised (threshold to start) with devins big game
November 10th, 2012 at 12:31 PM
#45
I have full confidence in
I have full confidence in Devin, but this like a cruel joke for Denard. It will be a horrible feeling if he's not ready to go for Senior Day next week. Sitting on the sidelines for your last home game is not a proper send off.
But with the silver lining here, it gives Devin a lot more preparation for next year, especially if he has to go against OSU. So it sucks right now, but I think it's beneficial for the long term.
Still, I'd give anything for Denard to be out there.
November 10th, 2012 at 12:31 PM
#46
Kennedy taking all of the 2nd
Kennedy taking all of the 2nd team snaps during warm ups. No other qbs taking any snaps. Don't get hurt Devin.
November 10th, 2012 at 12:49 PM
#47
Angelique hinted this was the case
in this morning's DetNews. I hope we get him back next week so that the team is comfortable with him--or with some new combinations of him and Devin--before OSU.
November 10th, 2012 at 12:51 PM
#48
So much for my gut feeling
DG gets more game time experience for next year.
DR get healthy!
GO BLUE!!
November 10th, 2012 at 12:53 PM
#49
Good thing we've got a solid
Good thing we've got a solid backup in Devin Gardner... You will still be very missed Denard!
