Does anyone know if the NCAA requires proof of injury, such as a physical from a doctor appointed by them, or do they just take the word of the training staff?
has been documented, since his last time on the field, so I am thinking that is all the NCAA needs.
As stated at the bottom, by a fellow blogger. I got my news from rivals "Inside the Fort". I used quotations because I thought that it was very convenient for him to have an "injury" (there see what I did there).
That Gardner was still tossing passes on the sideline after halftime last week...though I also noticed when Denard got hurt Tate was the only one throwing. Devin was several rows deep on the sideline with his helmet off at that time at least.
It's not like he has to be in a wheelchair. He just can't play after week 4 and has to have some kind of documented injury.
can't play after week 6 and in less than 4 games.
now that you're over 10,000 points
well played, sir.
I guess maybe Rich knows more then we do.
This would be a dream come true. Please Please PLEASE REDSHIRT!!
... Can I sacrifice a newborn to the NCAA to make this happen?
you need a virgin. Should have no problem finding one of them on a college campus, no?
Just stop by Martha Cook
... loopholes when they work for us.
In 2014 when Devin has 2 National Titles, a Heisman and his degree it will be hard to justify coming back.
My thoughts are with Devin as he tries to bounce back from this setback. Perhaps going through this trying ordeal may yet pay dividends down the road.
I hope he recovers from the "debilitating" tendinitis he got from tweaking his throwing motion. I hope the NCAA is loose with its definition of "debilitiating," though.
requirements are on p 139-140
does Magnus think it was ok to play him in the first couple games now?
If you believe that he actually suffered an injury worthy of keeping him out for the remainder of the season, then I have a lovely piece of real estate that you might be interested in....
Ooh! Real estate you say!? I've been looking for some land in Florida!
If only you had the Golden Gate Bridge up for sale...
Maybe it is shaped like a horse shoe and is filled with maniacal truck drivers.
I don't believe that at all, but that's not the point. Whether he has a legitimate injury or not, as long as he gets his redshirt that's all that really matters. Plus, he even has a little bit of actual game experience now, which is obviously an added bonus.
Rich is in on top of things. Just like Drew Sharp and Lynn Henning keep telling us.
and the medical redshirt was refused.
differs from mine.
May need some work.
That would be funny? I must be losing my sense of humor.
So let me get this right, if he's granted a medical redshirt, as a 5th Year Senior our backfield would be Devin and TacoPants. Truly epic!
If the NCAA needs witnesses to attest to the severity of his injury I will happily volunteer. I saw him, just last Saturday as a matter of fact, and he looked like he was in a lot of pain.
Granted the view from Section 5 was a bit far away but I'm pretty sure I saw him wince a time or two.
When do they need me?
but I am not sure we should be aspiring to be a program that lies - there are enough Saban-type coaches in the world and the programs that celebrate them. We are not that. We are better - or at least we should aspire to be. If Devin actually has an injury - then fine - but if it is being made-up to extend his playing time then - well - we might win a few more in Devin's rSr season - but at the cost of losing a bit of integrity at the core of the program.
I hope there actually is a minor injury that allows a medical redshirt but heals in the offseason. I am disappointed that we are actually celebrating the *wink* Devin has an "injury" *wink* idea.
I can see it being a loss of integrity issue, however I'm willing to bet that any guy that gets injured early in the season, no matter the severity, has a medical redshirt application filled out. The worst that could happen is the NCAA turns it down.
If Devin was our starter for half the season, and the coaches somehow found a small loophole to allow him to redshirt, I would agree with you. But Devin has played about 15 non-meaningful snaps all season. It's not like there is some giant advantage being gained by doing this.
It's not like there is some giant advantage being gained by doing this.
You mean there's no giant advantage beyond the giant advantage of potentially having a highly rated, 6'4", presumably 220 lb. QB gaining a fifth year of eligiblity?
Yeah, I totally agree. No advantage whatsoever...
I was operating under the assumption that a medical redshirt was planned all along for Devin.
I am not sure we should be aspiring to be a program that lies - there are enough Saban-type coaches in the world and the programs that celebrate them. We are not that. We are better - or at least we should aspire to be.
Dude, everyone does this. Lloyd got guys to "redshirt" on a broken finger and sprained ankle.
The weight of the splint slows down your follow through, costing you a good 10-15 yards on a kick. And don't get me started on trying to catch a pass with a bunion.
then I don't have a problem with a medical redshirt. But if UM is trying to squeeze through a loophole, then I don't feel so good about this. If OSU or MSU or Saban were trying to pull something, we would be all over them....
But saban DOES pull this stuff. Not that its right.
Would be awesome if that happened because I dont see him getting alot of playing time w/ 2 QB's ahead of him. I didnt like how he was even playing this year because hes stuck behind two sophomores, and was hoping that he wasnt thinking about transferring.
But hey, if it's in the rules, it's in the rules. And everyone can stop whining about the snaps the first couple of games.
A couple quotes from Rivals about Gardner's "injury"
The freshman QB did see some early action, but he's since developed a back ailment that could impact his ability to get any more playing time.
U-M head coach Rich Rodriguez said Gardner's back problems kind of come and go.
A "back ailment" that "kind of comes and goes."
Why don't you just continue crying because RR likely outsmarted what you were taking up as your personal crusade? If, in your words, the snaps were "meaningless" then why does this bother you, since clearly ANY QB could have played those meaningless snaps and thus who cares about the redshirt?
Oh wait, RR just destroyed your fantasy that you're smarter than the coaches. Proceed as you were.
a) This proves my point. My point was that it would be stupid to lose Devin's freshman year redshirt to meaningless snaps. Even the coaches realize that he should be redshirting this year.
b) The injury is probably complete and total BS. If the medical redshirt actually gets approved by the NCAA, then they should consider themselves lucky for getting away with it.
A) Yet, if the rumors that Tate was suspended the first game are true, then props to the coaches for sticking to their guns on that.
B) Definitely. It will get approved.
First of all, I can't believe some of you are actually concerned and think that he really was so badly injured that he'll have to miss the rest of the year.
This is SOP in college football... you try out a guy that you think may contribute his freshman year, and if he's not quite "there" or there's another backup that can do his job, the freshman in question conveniently gets "injured" for the rest of the season.
And it's granted almost everytime because all the NCAA requires is a doctor to sign a document saying that the player is injured... no one is going to come and physically check Gardner to see if he's injured, and no one will care that he was taking practice snaps two weeks ago. Hell, Devin will probably still be practicing at 100% for the rest of the year.
For another example of this, see Nick Hill at MSU... he too played early but after the emergence of Le'Veon Bell, Hill got "injured" and will redshirt.