October 28th, 2012 at 12:24 AM ^
October 28th, 2012 at 12:36 AM ^
according to reports
October 28th, 2012 at 12:54 AM ^
Cuz last time I check receivers get jacked pretty often. I can't see how it'd be more dangerous to put him at QB.
October 28th, 2012 at 1:24 AM ^
The issue isn't where he'd be more likely to aggravate the injury, it's whether he can perform at QB with an injured throwing shoulder.
October 28th, 2012 at 12:27 AM ^
October 28th, 2012 at 12:56 PM ^
A conservative gameplan against an agressive MSU D and a few dropped passes account for the lack of TDs leading up to Denard's injury.
October 28th, 2012 at 12:27 AM ^
Losing does that.
October 28th, 2012 at 12:29 AM ^
what are you talking about?? Idiot
October 28th, 2012 at 12:44 AM ^
Don's made that post after every loss Hoke has had. We've always gone on to win the following week, so maybe it's his personal reverse-jinx.
October 28th, 2012 at 12:45 AM ^
Ok. My apologies for jumping the gun.
October 28th, 2012 at 8:27 PM ^
October 28th, 2012 at 5:33 AM ^
October 28th, 2012 at 12:37 AM ^
I also think people need to calm down just a litle bit. Notre Dame is the only game we really had no business losing. Alabama is Alabama. Crap officiating plus Denard going down with no QB depth, what did you expect tonight? Denard going down spelled just the doom I (and most everyone else) thought it would. Auburn we are not.
October 28th, 2012 at 12:52 AM ^
Gardner's been practicing as a WR. Regardless of how painful that was--and it was Sheridan-level painful make no mistake--it seems the plan has always been if Denard gets hurt, Bellomy plays the rest of that game. If the plan is to get Gardner ready for long-term as expected, it won't happen in-game.
I know while watching that there's something in side you screaming 'WHAT ABOUT OUR 5-STAR JUNIOR QUARTERBACK WHO HAS BEEN IN BIG GAMES BEFORE?' and even if the part of your brain that remembers Gardner in as something other than a distraction for Fitz/Denard Jet is asleep at that moment, you can't put a quarterback in who hasn't been readied for the situation. "Gardner and stuff" would look just as awful.
I didn't think Bellomy would be that hopelessly bad. He has neither accuracy nor any kind of arm. If Denard can't go next week and Michigan doesn't prep Gardner, that right there is enough to declare Gardner really isn't any good. These coaches are not crazy. They're going to do what they think is best to win. They're not liable to just throw shit at the wall like Rodriguez was on defense, and that's why you see them sticking to the plan and not just trying Gardner and stuff. If Bellomy really is a better option, well, you have seen extended Bellomy now and no, that isn't going to spring into a Big Ten-level quarterback anytime in 2012. Either Denard will be able to play, Gardner will be in, or give up on Gardner this year because the coaches think he'll do worse than whatever that just was.
October 28th, 2012 at 12:57 AM ^
That is a defeatest attitude, and it's NOT something I ever want to see out of a coaching staff EVER. Clearly Bellomy is fucking awful but the point is it couldn't have been any worse. FFS put in Jack Kennedy - the result woulda been the same.
October 28th, 2012 at 1:16 AM ^
What you are suggesting is the offensive equivalent of "hey let's try Vinopal at FS." Yes, it can get worse when you throw shit at the wall. Yes, it is technically possible that you'll sell it as a painting, but you have to weigh that likelihood versus the 100% chance being the guy who flung shit all over his wall.
I have no trouble believing Bellomy > Kennedy.
October 28th, 2012 at 8:51 AM ^
If Bellomy ever starts a game at michigan, Hoke bet ready himself for coaching DL in the MAC. I don't care if DG hasn't taken a snap in practice or not, you can't go worse than 3/16 and 3 picks.At least DG in the game opens up the playbook a bit.And they can't blitz the shit out of us.
October 28th, 2012 at 12:54 AM ^
I am gonna get the ole cleats out of storage and give Brady a call and let him know I'm ready to play. I will not only throw accurately, but I will sprint downfield and CATCH the ball. Hear me now, and believe me later!!
October 28th, 2012 at 1:04 AM ^
Has anyone thought about the fact that Gardner might be hurt? Remember him hitting the riser near the end of the ND game? It messed up his shoulder, and it might very well have been part of the issue. Think about it, he's not looked the same since that game, maybe he's able to play WR, but not QB.
October 28th, 2012 at 1:59 AM ^
October 28th, 2012 at 1:26 AM ^
Number 8 at QB for Michigan = DEATH
(except vs Minny, thank you Nick).
October 28th, 2012 at 4:36 AM ^
October 28th, 2012 at 2:08 AM ^
Yes, Gardner hurt his shoulder at Notre Dame, sliding into that structure when he slid out of the side of the end zone. He left the game with his shoulder in a sling and there were rumors that he had a separated shoulder. It is very possible that he was injured enough that he can't throw but that he can still play receiver. Hoke doesn't tell the press anything about injuries so no one would know for sure.
With how ridiciculously bad Bellomy was playing, I can't believe DG wouldn't have gotten into the game at QB if he had been taking any snaps there in practice. Bellomy was just brutally bad. He couldn't complete even the most basic throws.
October 28th, 2012 at 3:10 AM ^
October 28th, 2012 at 10:21 AM ^
There is always more to the story. Maybe Russ has been the man in practice... just froze up during the game? Maybe the package in place this week was something he couldn't run or didn't get enough reps running. Trying to be positive here and consider the whole picture, but it is tough.
October 28th, 2012 at 10:50 AM ^
There's not a whole lot of wiggle room when it comes to arm strength. A guy doesn't have to be Favre to make the throws, but he has to be able to make the throws, and whateve else Bellomy is he doesn't have that. It took him almost a full second to load up and chuck the one that went 10 yards short. That's simply not a Big Ten arm.
October 28th, 2012 at 10:27 AM ^
We should find more game opportunities to 'grow' our back-up QBs. You get out of it what you put into it and I'm not sure it's ever been a strength of ours.
October 28th, 2012 at 10:39 AM ^
From what I saw it was the WRs that seem to have a problem. We'd have a Bellomy for 2013 post if those guys would just catch a ball once in a blue moon!!!
October 28th, 2012 at 10:53 AM ^
The receivers dropped what, maybe 4 passes? Some of them were doomed passes, anyway. So instead of being 3/16, Bellomy might have been 7/16. That's still terrible.
October 28th, 2012 at 10:59 AM ^
October 28th, 2012 at 12:46 PM ^
look on the bright side. At least we know he doesn't throw an uncatchable ball.
October 28th, 2012 at 11:51 AM ^
I saw absolutely nothing in Bellomy that makes me believe that after a week running the offense in practice he'll be ready to start.
Devon, on the other hand, was a former 5 star QB who was flipped to WR so he could get playing time - not cause Bellomy was a better option at QB. Give Devon ALL the reps this week in practice and put him in coach.
Please.
October 28th, 2012 at 12:03 PM ^
October 29th, 2012 at 12:56 AM ^
The Notre Dame game was now a full month ago now. I'm uncertain of how long seperated shoulders take to heal up enough to get back to throwing, so I will make no claims on that.
But IF Devin is good to go I hope he'll get plenty of snaps at QB this week. The emergence of Funchess and Dileo make me feel okay about our team's overall recieving ability without Devin at wideout and I think we might need him at QB even if Denard is okay for next week. Bellomy simply doesn't look ready for prime-time and our offensive weaknesses are usually covered for by the thread of Denard's legs, which Bellomy can't approximate but Devin certainly can. We're not going to win a lot of games without Denard, but if we can get merely competent QB play I suspect we can still will 2.5/4 remaining games on our schedule. I don't see Minnesota or Iowa putting more than 10-15 points on the board against this D, Northwestern would be a toss-up without Denard, but I still think we can grind that one out at home.
I don't see us keeping up with ohio without Denard though, so I hope he's either 100% soon or else is able to rest up for a next few weeks to get healthy before THE GAME.