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Devin Gardner for QB?
October 27th, 2012 at 11:05 PM | 
What play can Bellomy run
What play can Bellomy run
October 27th, 2012 at 11:09 PM |
Lame excuse
Lame excuse
You're the offensive coordinator. If you can't find a handful of simple plays for your players to excute, you've got no business being an OC. And if Bellomy can't excute a single simple play, then why is he even dressing for the games?
Hot dogs are the devil.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:11 PM |
He did call some simple
He did call some simple
He did call some simple plays. They didn't work. Or did you miss those passes that Bellomy airmailed and/or threw into the ground? And he's dressing because he's apparently the #2 or #3 quarterback on the roster, but the lack of QBs on the roster isn't Borges's fault.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:15 PM |
Then who's responsible for developing QBs
Then who's responsible for developing QBs
If Bellomy is good enough to be the #2 QB so we can move Gardner to WR, and Bellomy has had two years under the tutalage of Borges, then it is Al' fault that he hasn't developed to the point that he can't do anything. Where's the accountability? You can't just keep saying "we didn't execute." Its your job as coaches to make sure they are in positions to execute.
Hot dogs are the devil.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:17 PM |
You're right. It's totally
You're right. It's totally
You're right. It's totally Al Borges's fault that a redshirt freshman QB can't perform against the #10 pass defense in the country.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:24 PM |
Not trying to be snarky but
Not trying to be snarky but
Not trying to be snarky but if you're the OC and you know you're putting in a completely green QB against the #10 pass defense in the country, don't you call plays that take that into account (and I say this knowing that our running game has been mostly Denard)?
October 27th, 2012 at 11:26 PM |
What plays would those be?
What plays would those be?
What plays would those be?
October 28th, 2012 at 12:07 AM |
So what you're saying is we
So what you're saying is we
So what you're saying is we have an offensive coordinator and an offense with no hope.
October 28th, 2012 at 4:19 AM |
When the QB can't throw for shit
When the QB can't throw for shit
and the O-line isn't dominating the line of scrimmage, and the running backs aren't 1st round picks, there aren't very many plays that work well.
This is just ridiculous. Since his second year with the program, Denard has been the center-piece of the offense. Everytime he has been hurt since then, the offense has stunk, whether it was RR or Borges calling the plays.
October 28th, 2012 at 5:12 AM |
well thats true after tate
well thats true after tate
well thats true after tate left anyways
October 28th, 2012 at 1:35 AM |
Well he's also the QB coach,
Well he's also the QB coach,
Well he's also the QB coach, and " The expectation is for the position".
Bellomy is in the system for over a year.
And i guess it's pretty clear from 2010 that you always need a backup plan in case Denard goes out.
so no, it's not totally his fault. But I do believe the performance tonight is worrying in terms of QB development by Borges.
Just curious what everyone here thinks: will it be better if Borges can hire a QB coach so he can focus on OC duties?
October 27th, 2012 at 11:19 PM |
Who's fault is it then? Who
Who's fault is it then? Who
Who's fault is it then? Who failed to take a qb in the last recruiting cycle, and moved the only other viable option to wr?
Call Mr. Plow, that's my name, that name again is Mr. Plow
October 27th, 2012 at 11:28 PM |
Mr. Brady Hoke.
Mr. Brady Hoke.
Mr. Brady Hoke.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:09 PM |
When everyone and their mom
When everyone and their mom
When everyone and their mom know they are coming in with a blitz maybe a long developing play isn't the best idea.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:12 PM |
I guess he should have called
I guess he should have called
I guess he should have called a slant or throwback screen, since those have worked so well...
October 27th, 2012 at 11:15 PM |
Throwback screens didn't work
Throwback screens didn't work
Throwback screens didn't work in the first qtr with denard why think they'd work now. Sniffed out like a jittery drug mule. It says a lot when our most successful throwback screen was the one gallon dropped
October 27th, 2012 at 11:35 PM |
You can criticize his
You can criticize his
You can criticize his playcalling in the first half, but what could he have called in the second half that might have worked? We couldn't run or pass.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:03 PM |
Ok. Bellomy is a RS frosh...
Ok. Bellomy is a RS frosh...
and all that. I get it. But he is the primary backup and he's playing like ass with no improvement in sight. Totally unprepared. Inexcusable. Play Gardner.
Hoke bitches...Hoke.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:11 PM |
The fact that our QB have all
The fact that our QB have all
The fact that our QB have all shown zero improvement under Hoke/Borges makes me concerned about the future of Shane Morris. Hoke needs to find his Mattison on offense.
Hot dogs are the devil.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:03 PM |
This is the first time
This is the first time
I have been pissed at Hoke. Gardner can at least run the ball, and he certainly couldn't pass worse than Bellamy. I never thought I would say this about a Hoke coached team but they gave up (not the players but the coaches).
I am really fucking pissed, this brings me back to the old Lloyd ball play to lose shit.
It's tough being Blue in Columbus!!!
October 27th, 2012 at 11:07 PM |
If they bring him back after that INT
If they bring him back after that INT
then yes the coaches are chalking this one up. Borges needs to go down to the sideline and start coaching this kid up!
" Michigan Men fight till the end...even in failure we succeed! " The Team! The Team! The Team! GBOD
October 27th, 2012 at 11:14 PM |
You don't just go in and
You don't just go in and
You don't just go in and start throwing the ball around, you have to know the playbook- and I am not at all sure that Gardner can run the offense (even a stripped down offense) if he has not been practicing at QB for most or all of the season.
It has nothing to do with athleticism and all to do with preparation- you need at least some minimal prep to play QB. Having him play this week was simply not a realistic option.
Now, if you want to be pissed at Hoke for moving him to WR this year, that is a legit position, but I had not heard many complaints from folks thus far- most felt it was best to get him on the field as much as possible.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:16 PM |
This ^^^^
This ^^^^
This ^^^^
Call Mr. Plow, that's my name, that name again is Mr. Plow
October 27th, 2012 at 11:22 PM |
Yes, but Gardner sucks as a wr
Yes, but Gardner sucks as a wr
He's worse than Roundtree and Gallon. Why keep him as a WR?
"They're stuck with that quarterback (sophomore Braxton Miller) for the next two or three years, that's fine with me. He throws worse than (Tim) Tebow. - Steve Everitt
October 27th, 2012 at 11:33 PM |
Well, at the beginning of the
Well, at the beginning of the
Well, at the beginning of the season, I was in favor of Gardner going to WR. I thought the depth there was really lacking. He is certainly not a polished receiver, but other than Funchess, he is really the only tall receiver that we have.
That being said, there is no doubt that Bellomy's performance tonight was really disturbing.
With the failure of Bellomy and the development of the WR corps, it may be time for the coaches to re-evaluate the positioning of Gardner.
But, any decision like that can only reasonably be made seeing him in practice. Fortunately, we have a coaching staff that I trust to make the correct decision-- and that is what it really comes down to-- do we trust the coaches? Because no one here really knows what is going on in practice, so we really can not know what is best for the team.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:45 PM |
You said it man...
You said it man...
Yep, yep, and yep. And may I add, I pray that Denard is back next week.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:57 PM |
Because in two years you'll
Because in two years you'll
Because in two years you'll have a gifted receiver with two years experience playing the position, instead of a qb buried on the depth chart?
It's not really surprising Gardner's struggled at a position he had never played before spring practice. And it's pretty obvious he's got some talent, as yet undeveloped.
I might be wrong, but let's revisit this in 2014.
October 28th, 2012 at 1:09 PM |
He is a senior next year.
He is a senior next year.
He is a senior next year. And I see no reasonble chance he gets a medical redshirt. If he was going to get it, he'd have been notified (like many others in the conference have in a timely manner).
October 27th, 2012 at 11:33 PM |
Right...
Right...
Because Gardner didn't play QB for 4 years in high school and under RR and Brady Hoke, like ever...at all. I'm sure he forgot everything....
October 27th, 2012 at 11:44 PM |
I am pretty sure his HS
I am pretty sure his HS
I am pretty sure his HS playbook bears as much resemblance to the Michigan playbook as 10th grade algebra does to college level calculus. And yes, you do forget things, or at least your reactions are slowed and so the timing of the play fails. And I am sure the game planning changes week to week as the plan changes based on the team they are playing.
So yes, I stand by my original statement.
October 28th, 2012 at 5:22 AM |
Well I've seen Gardner at QB
Well I've seen Gardner at QB
Well I've seen Gardner at QB the last few years and atleast Bellamy can say he's a RS freshman. The only thing Gardners athletic ability has done for his QBing skills is a few very funny Yackaty sacks videos.
Some of this has to be on Bellamy. When it's your time in the spot light you have to be ready. practice like you're going play every week.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:35 PM |
But hasn't Hoke stated in
But hasn't Hoke stated in
But hasn't Hoke stated in pressers that Gardner is still getting the same amount of reps as Bellomy in practice?
shogun
October 27th, 2012 at 11:50 PM |
I was (and am) not aware of
I was (and am) not aware of
I was (and am) not aware of that. That would certainly change my responses. But I had not heard that. Do you have a source?
October 27th, 2012 at 11:31 PM |
Completely agree
Completely agree
and where is the North/South Man-Ball with Rawls? How do you not at least bitch at the refs, demand a review, and use time-outs before the half in attempts to coach and calm down your young QB?
October 27th, 2012 at 11:07 PM |
Makes no sense anymore
Makes no sense anymore
Why DG wasn't put in earlier. We were only down 16-9
"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off"
October 27th, 2012 at 11:08 PM |
I dunno man. I dunno.
I dunno man. I dunno.
I dunno man. I dunno.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:11 PM |
If it's just a nerve issue,
If it's just a nerve issue,
If it's just a nerve issue, Denard should be fine and be back next week, but they should have given Bellomy more minutes early on especially in the UMass game. If I remember correctly, Michigan was up by like 50 points before Bellomy came in and they didn't even let him throw the ball. doh!
903 wins most in college football
October 27th, 2012 at 11:11 PM |
I swear...
I swear...
I will go apeshit on anyone dogging Denard. I think it's pretty obvious how good he is, huh?
Hoke bitches...Hoke.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:14 PM |
Agreed. Those people are
Agreed. Those people are
Agreed. Those people are idiots.
Forever For Michigan
October 28th, 2012 at 12:05 AM |
And he's by far our best option
And he's by far our best option
Who do you want to put back there? The offense isn't made for Denard Borges has no idea how to utilize him. If Rodriguez this is a top 3 offense in the nation
He only got the job because he's a Michigan Man not because he was the best. Is that what Michigan is all about? You do the best, you get the job. This MM meme is crap.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:11 PM |
More time for Bellomy doesn't =
More time for Bellomy doesn't =
Better play calling but yes we should have given him more mop up time early this year.
" Michigan Men fight till the end...even in failure we succeed! " The Team! The Team! The Team! GBOD
October 27th, 2012 at 11:21 PM |
He had the moppiest....
He had the moppiest....
of mop up time against Illinois. It wasn't good.
All right Lemmings. Bring the heat.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:12 PM |
The worst part of this loss
The worst part of this loss
is it makes me really depressed about UM's offense next year. I knew there'd be a drop off without Denard but it's looking pretty bleak right now.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:21 PM |
Sugar Shane
Sugar Shane
Ready or not, it's the Shane Morris show next year.
Omnes i facere est vincere
October 27th, 2012 at 11:12 PM |
I seriously don't get it.
I seriously don't get it.
I seriously don't get it. They were only down 16-9. You basically said to your defense that you give up and you're just trying to give bellomy experience by about the 5th time you brought him back in. For fucking what?
"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off"
October 27th, 2012 at 11:13 PM |
Is there a conspiracy going
Is there a conspiracy going
Is there a conspiracy going on with DG or something? Are the coaches afraid he'll end up being better than Denard and face pressure to start DG over Denard? No, I know this is not the case but I just with we knew.
Do you bleed blue?
October 27th, 2012 at 11:19 PM |
Same conspiracy that keeps
Same conspiracy that keeps
Same conspiracy that keeps Rawls on the bench
October 27th, 2012 at 11:26 PM |
My speculation is that Rawls
My speculation is that Rawls
My speculation is that Rawls must fumble in practice often. Otherwise he would/should be starting.
/IMHO
"Wasn't that Michigan drive just great. That's like Patton riding into Berlin." ~Bob Ufer
October 28th, 2012 at 10:40 AM |
FTW
FTW
FTW
October 27th, 2012 at 11:15 PM |
It's a game
It's a game
Let's focus on what is important: That Denard plays next week. They were favored. Yes, Michigan would have won with Denard. But if he is ok, all is not lost. If he cannot go...Basketball season starts in a few days.
What play can Bellomy run effectively? Huh?
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