Tennessee is not recruiting well just because they got 18 dudes
Devin Gardner Impressing at Manning QB Camp
Perfect news on a perfect Michigan day
That makes me happy
Yeah but he's a 5 star prospect so that's expected.
I'm really excited for Devin to take the reins next year. He's got a tremendous upside. Talent, intelligence, dedication, and hard work...that's a great combination in a leader. Can't wait!
All signs point to this guy being really good this year. His demonstrated intelligence and athletic ability will only get stronger.
I would add he has been amazingly patient and mature through his collegiate career. He deserves it! GO BLUE!
Gonna be sweet when DG and the crew silence the crowd up in EL.
And the crowds at Uconn, Penn St, Northwestern, and Iowa.
And when he personally starts the bus up for Central, ND, Akron, Minnesota, Indiana, Nebraska, an ohio.
well, technically we'd want the crowd roaring at northwestern- it's always filled with michigan fans
UConn will probably be at least half UM fans as well.
Hope he doesn't quiet the crowd at Northwestern. UM fans typically make up more than 50% of spectators at Ryan Field when we play there.
I guess that could be a bit different this year seeing as they're projected to be a pretty good team.
He's gotta be one of the most underrated QBs in the country this year.
Devin being underrated is perfectly fine with me. The last few Heisman winners have all been under the radar guys at the start of the year.
When I watched Johnny Manziel takes snaps in practice before last season started, I knew he had the heisman locked down.
My one concern with Devin going in is whether he will have the timing and ability to read the defense to have anticipation of when a receiver will be open. Last year, he seemed a beat slow sometimes, so that the ball was delivered late. If he can improve that, I think he could blow up this year.
He spent half the season as a receiver, so that probably played a part in that.
He didn't look so great and many were wondering if he was going to be a bust. He looked much better at QB this past season. You could tell the game is coming to him and slowing down since coming in. Only going to slow down even more going forward.
Is it football season yet? Can't wait any longer..
Upvoted for use of "MGoVoldemort."
Devin is poised to have a great season IMO. Great arm, great speed. I think he's going to help show how good some of our receivers are.
Coaches and others this offseason. This team will be really good and is going to surprise a lot of people this season. Michigan football is back,
Remember when people were writing this guy off to WR?
and in our defense, prior to coming in for Denard this last year, Devin's time at QB was pretty shaky. I wasn't sure if he was ever going to pull it together.
I viidly remember DG's pass against MSU where he was like 5 yards past the LOS and thinking "oh lawd"
Happy to admit I was wrong about that now (obviously)
He was one yard past the LOS on that play, and had just evaded a sack and kept the play alive using that same unorthodox spin move for which he was later lauded. He didn't look a world beater early on, especially in the spring games, but sample size was low and you could tell he had some skills.
will be how quickly the middle of the Oline develops and how much new talent emerges at RB and WR. That's still all very much up in the air right now. He has all the tools to be a great weapon at QB, but I don't think he can carry the offense by himself. If things develop the way they should, he could be a very legit Heisman candidate in 2014.
I think he'll have more impact statistically in the passing game then Williams at TE. While AJ will be primarily a run blocker who gets an occassional bone in the passing game.
Plus I just wanted to use that heading.
though I'm not totally sold on whether Fitz will ever do as well as in 2011 again. But as far as receivers, we have Gallon (very good, but really a #2 guy) and Dileo (decent and will make some plays, but really no better than a 3rd or 4th guy) and that's about it for guys who have shown anything on the field. I just don't see much in the way of "others" unless Darboh and Chesson step up and contribute seriously. I think Norfleet could make an impact at slot receiver, but I'd be very surprised if Jackson did anything but grab a handful of catches in garbage time. After that, we've got walkons and true freshmen who all look like redhsirts/projects. I have a feeling Gardner will be looking for a TE quite a bit.
But let's face it, he's not the kind of guy you'd pick out of a lineup as your #1 receiver, and he'd definitely be a #2 if we had a guy like Terrel or Edwards. As you say, he's our #1 option this year mainly because there's no one else. But I would really hope that both Darboh and Chesson do better than Jackson. Jackson is a senior, and he's never done a thing, so hoping for him to be a 3 or even a 4 guy isn't very realistic. I think.even Reynolds will catch more passes than Jackson this year. As far as the true freshmen, I wouldn't be surprised if one saw a little PT, if only on special teams, but I wouldn't expect any meaningful contribution from any of them this year.
Certainly our pass-catching situation is not dire, but there's a fair amount of uncertainty at this point.
so if we had an otherworldly talent at WR...things would be different?
mind = blown
and we have two legit threats to go along with whatever TE might emerge as the best blocker to share time with the best pass catching TE. Hopefully, will be same guy who's every bit as tall as DF when it comes to catching passes.
could emerge as a solid pass-catcher AND blocker this year, and free up Funchess for a WR spot on occasion, but the blocking part may be expecting a lot from him right off the bat. Funchess is still a tweener, who just doesn't have the bulk to be a top-notch blocker on DEs, and Williams hasn't show anything in the way of pass-catching yet. Would love to have at least one guy emerge as the total package at TE, but realistically that may not happen until at least next year.
You've seen "game-manager" QBs be awfully close to winning it lately, namely AJ McCarron and Andrew Luck. Both were in heavy manball offenses but they were great when they needed to be (and they were on good teams) so they got recognized for it. A Michigan QB could definitely get in the heisman race in a similar way.
Plus, doesn't Borges want to go 50/50 run-pass? It's not like we're becoming Navy here
At 5:45 of this video Devin watches Demens take down NW's RB on that awesome 4th and 2.
After that terrible interception in the 4th quarter he pulled himself together for that insane pass to Roundtree. His reaction to the defensive play on the field is exactly what I want from a QB. You can tell how much he cares about the game and team.
I expect great things this year, but I'm already loving the guy.
to know it's one emblazoned in my Iconic Devin memory files.
Or it should be... Doesn't hurt to watch it again.
Please stay healthy. And be careful Doug dangerous things like walking, getting out of bed and existing.
I seriously hope that in any game in which we have a safe lead, devin has a headset and clipboard as quickly as possible. If he stays healthy, he could be scary good.
In my opinion, it's been a common mistake by a lot of prognosticators to project Gardner's season this year based on how he finished up last season. There is a big difference between playing most of the year as a receiver and jumping in with almost no preparation to a system designed around a guy that has a completely different skill set - and not even playing full games at QB against ohio and SC once Denard was back. Gardner had nowhere near the preparation last year that he has going in to this year, and the offense wasn't tailored toward him like it will be in '13. Also, hypothetically speaking, there will be more support from the run game this year.
This is a guy with all the physical tools that has had all offseason to refine them, and by all accounts he has worked very hard to do so. I don't think we're going to see the same guy this fall.
Basically, I believe that most of the pundits have been very conservative in their predictions re: Gardner and for that matter Michigan in general. I try to be wary of jumping on hype trains based on offseason reports, but I really get the feeling Gardner is going to shake up the CFB world in a couple months. Now this may well mean that we only get one more season with him instead of two. But if it nets us a Big 10 title and a victory (or two) over ohio on the way there, it'll be well worth it.
I was thinking the same thing. That vegas might be way off right now going on devins small sample. I guess we should watch the odds movement from now until start of season because the smart money will show their hand then.
I suppose it isn't completely accurate to say the offense will be tailored around him (though it certainly was for Denard and so I think it's fair to expect at bare minimum that certain plays that Gardner is good at will be called more often than, say, whatever Morris or Speight might one day be good at.) But I have to respectfully disagree that Gardner is a spread QB. I know what system he was recruited to play in, but I always thought from day one that Gardner's upside was as a pro-style QB. He has the size and the arm for it, and there is a difference between being mobile with scrambling ability vs being quick/fast in a way that makes you dangerous as a runner every time you're holding on to the football. Yeah, Devin has OK speed when he has a little room to run, but he doesn't have much in the way of elusiveness. In my opinion, Gardner is going to be at his best when he can drop back and throw the ball, using his feet when necessary to buy him time (and also to run one hell of a bootleg on play action.) I've never been a fan of statues playing QB; the intricate blitz packages and the caliber of athletes playing defense these days make it tough to survive if you can't at least move around a little. So I actually think Gardner is almost the archetypical pocket passer, in fact. He's got size, strength, enough mobility to be dangerous if the blitz can't get there in time, and a good arm. All the tools are there to play in this offense. To be a great spread QB? I'm not so sure.
What system you're initially recruited into doesn't dictate your actual abilities. If it did, Braxton Miller would be better suited for Tressel ball. No, I think Miller got lucky when Meyer took over, and I think Gardner is fortunate that Hoke and Borges are in charge now, particularly if he wants to be an NFL QB.
I actually think DG is exactly what Borges wants in a QB and we will see the effects of this in the upcoming season. I really thought that Borges called a great game in the Outback Bowl and that an evolved version of that offense will be on display this season. Gardner has more overall talent than Denard IMO and I expect him to have a great season and end up in the NFL after the season, which I think is his plan.
everyone keeps talking about the interior line this year. Isn't it easier to break in new interior lineman than tackles? Guards/centers have a lot more combo blocks, whereas the tackles are on an island. Wouldn't 2 new tackles be tougher to replace next year? This will be a good year. GO BLUE!!
It wasn't that easy last year
I never said it was easy. But aren't 2 tackles a tougher replacement?
DG vs Braxton Miller pt 2 will be a tremendous again this year. Only difference is I think DG will get the better of him this go round
I was there in 2011 and it was awesome to see about 50% of the crowd being Michigan fans. This year since it's at the end of the season I expect to see even more in the maize and blue since we'll be undeafeated going into this game...
My big concern is DG being over-restricted by the the lack of a backup. He's become good in the pocket, but he's deadly when he is a threat to run . . . if we ever let him run.
Braxton Miller's success is because of his threat to run. Without his legs, he's a pretty mediocre QB. I don't want to see DG become a version of Braxton Miller that can not run.
I don't think I've ever been as quietly confident about a QB going into a season than with Devin Gardner this year. Frankly, what he did from a position change standpoint last season was nothing short of miraculous.
This year, there's no Denard gimmick-ry and shuttling on and off the field... There's nothing but what this offense has worked on in the off-season. Gardner brings that dreaded ability to absolutely launch the bomb while also take off if the defense falls asleep. How can you defend that?
So, in my mind, there's no doubt that Devin will be excellent. How excellent, and how many games we win wil really be decided by whether a second receiver can take some heat off Jeremy Gallon, and whether Fitz Toussaint bounces back to 2011 form/ Derrick Green comes in ready to play.
The comparison? Geno Smith. He is a classic case, though, where if noone else steps up, even a great QB can helm a 7-6 team (West VA last year).
We'll see. Not soon enough...
Johnny Manziel doesn't seem to be impressing anyone at the camp:
Our boots on the ground in Thibodaux, La. — believe it or not, we have them — informed us that Johnny Manziel was sent home from the Manning Passing Academy on Saturday afternoon by Archie Manning himself. Our source, who wishes to remain anonymous because of his connection to the camp, gave us the scoop after Manziel showed up tardy Saturday afternoon after being out on the town Friday night. The Texas A&M star reportedly enjoyed himself a little too much Friday night and rolled back into the camp at Nicholls State University some time around noon Saturday before getting the boot.
It's been a pleasure to watch Mr. Gardner transform from a question mark into someone who could be not just good, but GREAT. Even Michigan Great.
And his character, patience, and poise have been exemplary.
I expect great things from him.
Apparently Johnny Football is not impressing. According to reports the Mannings kicked him out of the camp for partying too hard and sleeping through meetings, http://mrsec.com/2013/07/report-johnny-manziel-gets-booted-from-manning-...
Edit: Beaten to the punch by UMGradMSUDad
Heisman. (Joking...but not 100%)
Sure it would be a great honor for him and the program, but when you look at the NFL record of Heisman-winning QBs, it seems to be a curse.