Devin Gardner on CBSSports 2013 Heisman Watch List

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Devin Gardner on CBSSports 2013 Heisman Watch List

This was also referenced in a Detroit News article, but since they didn't provide a link to CBSSports, I will not provide a link there.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/21333357/heisman-2013-an-early-look

Devin is listed in the "Others to Watch" section, behind front-runners like Aaron Murray, Marquise Lee, and /shuddersvomits Braxton Miller.

Of course it's too early and the sample size is ridiculously small.  Still impressive to get named to anyone's list after such a short time.  Other B1G mentions: Nebraska's Ameer Abdullah and Taylor Martinez, and Michigan State's Leveon Bell (just kidding).

Oddly enough, he (Chris Huston) does not include Johnny Football on this list.

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December 9th, 2012 at 8:40 PM | Maybe you don't have to be on (Score:5 Normal)
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Maybe you don't have to be on the Heisman watch list ... if you own a Heisman.

December 9th, 2012 at 8:42 PM | Mind blown (Score:3 Normal)
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December 9th, 2012 at 8:43 PM | Nah (Score:4 Normal)
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Read rationale here http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/21332937/why-johnny-manziel-will-never-win-another-heisman

 

December 9th, 2012 at 9:21 PM | Leave it to Dennis Dodd... (Score:4 Normal)
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Leave it to Dennis Dodd...

Not that I loved Rich Rod less, but that I loved Michigan more.

December 9th, 2012 at 9:50 PM | That article is actually also (Score:3 Normal)
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That article is actually also by Chris Huston, with another related story by Dodd given as additional reading. It's a little confusing with Dodd's picture there

December 9th, 2012 at 9:54 PM | Oh I see. Well Chris Huston (Score:3 Normal)
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Oh I see. Well Chris Huston is employed by the same people who pay Dennis Dodd real money to write his opinion so, yeah...

BTW am I the only one who thinks Dodd could be James Carville's twin?

Not that I loved Rich Rod less, but that I loved Michigan more.

December 9th, 2012 at 11:10 PM | I'd like to see Manziel win (Score:5 Normal)
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I'd like to see Manziel win it again, because I'm tired of Griffin being the only two-time winner.  Griffin's first Heisman was deserved, but his second (in 1975) was a joke - he scored four TDs all year.   He won that one on reputation.

December 10th, 2012 at 8:35 AM | Amen. (Score:2)
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Some guy at DII Jackson State should of won...What was his name again?... Sweet somthing...

 

But here is the the voting that I found on the Google Machine.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/awards/heisman-1975.html

 

Fuck it, Dude, let's go bowling.

December 10th, 2012 at 6:24 PM | IAA not DII (Score:1)
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IAA not DII

December 10th, 2012 at 12:24 PM | 4 TDs (Score:4 Normal)
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How does a very good running back on a good football team carry the ball 245 times and only score 4 times?  Even if they gave the ball to Pete Johnson (25 TDs) on every single carry inside the 5 yard line, you would think that Griffin would occasionally score 10+ yard TDs against the Indianas and Northwesterns of the world.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/ohio-state/1975.html

December 10th, 2012 at 1:48 PM | And it does seem strange that (Score:3 Normal)
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And it does seem strange that the supposed best player in the country would always be pulled at the goal line.

December 10th, 2012 at 4:36 AM | That was a great article, (Score:2)
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That was a great article, full of "probablities" as to why Johnny Manziel won't win another Heisman that had nothing to do with Johnny Manziel's ability to play football. 

December 9th, 2012 at 8:46 PM | And the hype begins (Score:3 Normal)
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Don't get me wrong. I love the fact that Devin has started 3 games as QB and already his name is being mentioned for Heisman. But isn't a bit premature? Besides, isn't heisman talk typically a curse?

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December 9th, 2012 at 8:58 PM | Premature (Score:5 Normal)
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All of these lists are premature. That said, I understand why dg was includes - he looked great in his first few games. He is qb for a premier school (historically). He came out with a ton of recruiting hype. And we are generally perceived to be on the rise as a program. Also, it's not like they put him in the first tier - just "others to watch for" which I take to mean "doubtful that they'd guys will win or even make a serious run, but outside of those that are likely, any one of these guys has potential and, you never know, could potentially make a run. What the hell do we know."

December 9th, 2012 at 9:46 PM | They've jumped the gun on a few of their picks (Score:1)
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For example, Stanford QB Kevin Hogan has had four starts as a redshirt freshman QB. 

December 9th, 2012 at 9:55 PM | Heisman winners are most (Score:1)
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Heisman winners are most likely to be a QB and almost always come from a power conference team- and the historically great teams do have an advantage- so being UM's starting QB puts you in a good starting position.  Since most people expect UM to be a solid team next year and there are no other star players in skill positions he will certainly be a candidate in that sense- but I agree three games is awefully little to go off of.

I think it's incredibly unlikely because that list has some seriously great atheltes on teams that will liekly be better than UM next year.  Plus- if he is a candidate I'd be more excited that it would mean our team nect year greatly overachieved and would be a title contender- no other way he's be in the conversation late in the year if that werent the case.

December 9th, 2012 at 8:46 PM | Haha. They put Richard Ash in (Score:5 Normal)
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Haha. They put Richard Ash in the tags instead of David Ash.

December 10th, 2012 at 5:28 AM | They needed ash tags (Score:3 Normal)
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They needed ash tags

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December 9th, 2012 at 8:49 PM | Manziel's career will (Score:3 Normal)
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Manziel's career will probably follow that of Tebow, save for the championships.  He's a great story, but he set the bar so high at the beginning of his career that he'll never reach this level again in the nation's eyes.  I think he's a really good QB, but I watched some of those games against better defenses and the kid struggled.  Some of that is on A&M's talent, but he benefitted from a weak crop of contenders and emerging toward the end of the year.  

December 9th, 2012 at 9:53 PM | A QB struggling against some (Score:2)
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A QB struggling against some good defenses? I never thought I'd hear of such a thing. Also, he benefitted from ripping up Alabama's defense. That was his trophy winning moment. You are right in that he will never win another Heisman. Only one guy, who didn't even deserve the second one, has done that because how do you top a Hesiman season?

 

December 9th, 2012 at 10:37 PM | Topping a previous heisman (Score:3 Normal)
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Topping a previous heisman season should have no bearing on whether or not somebody wins the heisman again.

December 9th, 2012 at 8:51 PM | In other news Ron Powlus just (Score:5 Normal)
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In other news Ron Powlus just won his 4th Heisman.

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December 9th, 2012 at 9:57 PM | Beano Cook ... (Score:2 Normal)
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is smiling from above because someone else remembered that. Just a slight overestimation of skill on his part.

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December 9th, 2012 at 9:06 PM | Archie Griffin¨s second was a mistake (Score:3 Normal)
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Inasmuch as he was the second leading rusher in the Big X that senior season, it was difficult, even then to understand how he could grab the coveted trophy twice. Michigan¨s Gordon(FlASH) lead the conference that year. It was a cool thing for the media to do I guess. I can think of no other reason why the runner-up in the conference would be considered the nations¨ best when he did no duplicate his previous standards.

This, I believe, is one of the reasons it will be most difficult for him to accomplish, speaking of Johny Football, of course. A&M does not carry the cach´e of an OSU and should the team falter a bit -OSU did not- their leader will be considered the reason, be it fair or not.

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December 9th, 2012 at 9:14 PM | Manziel good 2x potential; DG has a shot (Score:1)
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This was his first season in Sumlin's offense, TAMU is recruiting well, he puts up crazy stats, he's fun to watch and NFL won't lure him for 2 more years.

DG is top 3 or 4 for boom-or-bust plays, so he has ESPN highlight publicity potential. Other than Lee and Hundley, the rest of the list is boring IMO.

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December 9th, 2012 at 9:18 PM | Manziel could leave after (Score:1)
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Manziel could leave after next year if he wanted. He'll be a RS sophomore.

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December 9th, 2012 at 9:49 PM | Manziel does not have the (Score:3 Normal)
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Manziel does not have the type of arm that NFL scouts like. That is to say, a strong one. 

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December 10th, 2012 at 4:12 PM | Ford His arm have any tats? (Score:2)
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Ford His arm have any tats?

Touchdown Michigan!

December 10th, 2012 at 4:12 PM | Ford = does. iFlaw (Score:2)
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Ford = does. iFlaw

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December 9th, 2012 at 9:14 PM | May be it IS time (Score:2 Normal)
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Forget all the Sept. Heisman talk. If our OL improves with the last couple of recruiting classes, DG may show the world what he can do.

I hope he works his tail off during the summer and becomes stronger and more accurate. Next year's schedule includes a few away games (Penn State, MSU, NW, Iowa). I would not be surprised if we win them all.

December 9th, 2012 at 9:40 PM | Our O-line will probably not (Score:3 Normal)
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Our O-line will probably not improve next year, given that we'll have freshmen playing.  In two years, if DG gets his 5th year, that's where I'd look for the chance for a special season.

Now with 100% less South Bend, 100% more Washington DC.

December 9th, 2012 at 10:01 PM | Redshirt Freshman 5 stars (Score:4 Normal)
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Redshirt Freshman 5 stars

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December 9th, 2012 at 10:08 PM | Line is always the place (Score:4 Normal)
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Line is always the place where it takes the longest to develop.  Linemen who perform at a high level before becoming upperclassmen are pretty rare.  I'm sure hoping we manage it, but I'll be skeptical until I see them mashing some fools.

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December 10th, 2012 at 2:00 AM | This is true but I think much (Score:2)
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This is true but I think much like we are seeing so many rookie QBs tear it up in the nfl and freshmen QBs win the heisman, we'll start seeing young Olinemen play well also because the coaching these kids get from private coaches and clinics is way beyond what it used to be. When kids are coming in at 300 pounds and getting that coaching from ex-nfl guys in high school, I don't think it's a stretch to think well see more redshirt freshmen be at least good not great at that young age. Could be Kalis. With the quality of OL recruits we have comin in I'd bet more than one works out this way.

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December 10th, 2012 at 9:47 AM | I think offensive line is (Score:2)
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I think offensive line is always going to be a late developing position.  It's so much about technique and pure bulk, it doesn't really matter if they get more coaching in high school.  A 300-pounder with three years of college coaching is almost always going to be better than a 280-pounder with zero college coaching.

That's not to say that great high school linemen can't come in and start in their first or second year, but that's always been the case.  Orlando Pace started as a freshman in the mid '90's.  Why?  Because he was huge and awesome.  But he's a rarity.  Kyle Kalis is the most technically sound offensive lineman I've seen come to Michigan, and despite playing on a team with a mediocre offensive line, he's redshirting as a freshman.

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December 10th, 2012 at 11:04 AM | all I have to say about Orlando Pace is this..... (Score:1)
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December 9th, 2012 at 9:21 PM | Devin would be a long shot (Score:0 Flamebait)
December 9th, 2012 at 9:33 PM | Baffles me (Score:2 Normal)
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It baffles me how Lee wasn't invited to New York this year, kids insane, I think he has a pretty good chance to win it next year. 

December 9th, 2012 at 9:38 PM | Lee will go pro.Barkley isn't (Score:-1 Flamebait)
December 9th, 2012 at 9:48 PM | Lee can't go pro. He's a true (Score:2 Normal)
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Lee can't go pro. He's a true sophomore this year.

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December 9th, 2012 at 10:06 PM | I would like to down vote (Score:4 Normal)
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I would like to down vote myself.

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December 9th, 2012 at 9:43 PM | These lists hardly ever mean (Score:2 Normal)
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These lists hardly ever mean anything. There's a good chance that the eventual winner for next year will be someone that no one predicts. I doubt most people took RGIII as a serious Heisman contender before his last year started. Were Newton or Manziel even close to the Heisman radar before their years started?



As far as Gardner winning, he has a chance. The schedule sets up pretty nicely next year with Notre Dame, Nebraska and Ohio all at home. All of those games should be nationally televised. It all just depends on how much he develops in the offseason, as well as how much the weapons around him develop. Will Gallon continue to produce, should he stay? Will Darboh and Chesson step up? Will the offensive line develop enough to give Gardner time to make throws? There are a lot of factors going into this before Gardner's name can even be mentioned in a Heisman conversation.

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December 10th, 2012 at 12:52 PM | Green at Running back would (Score:1)
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Green at Running back would certainly help...

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December 9th, 2012 at 9:56 PM | It's funny that every (Score:4 Normal)
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It's funny that every preseason list thread is followed by at least one post that claims the list doesn't mean anything.  Well no shit.

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December 9th, 2012 at 10:00 PM | Jake Ryan is our next Heisman winner (Score:5 Normal)
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The first exclusively/pure/solely defensive player to win the Heisman. Unless Hoke let's him line up at fullback.

BTW, my autocorrect changed Heisman to He is man. Don't know how I never noticed that Heisman spells this.

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December 9th, 2012 at 10:02 PM | We have our new meme. (Score:3 Normal)
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Jake Ryan is "He Is Man".

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December 9th, 2012 at 10:04 PM | Roughly 364 days until next (Score:1 Flamebait)
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Roughly 364 days until next year's Heisman ceremony... it's just never too early for the media, is it?

This is worse than Christmas ads in October.

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December 9th, 2012 at 10:08 PM | I swear Aaron Murray is a 7th (Score:5 Normal)
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I swear Aaron Murray is a 7th year senior, dude has been there forever.

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December 10th, 2012 at 1:14 PM | Haha, I said the same thing (Score:3 Normal)
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Haha, I said the same thing below. There always seems to be a few guys like that...Adrian Clayborn, generic 4-letter-last-name Wisconsin RBs, etc...

Jason White...

wait, he was actually at Oklahoma for like 12 years

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December 9th, 2012 at 10:27 PM | Needs a nickname (Score:0 Normal)
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