Dood you totally fail. It's 2 different verses.
that is nice bonus change
Dood you totally fail. It's 2 different verses.
You misspelled dude wrong...dude
You're even on the internet where you can look this stuff up before posting wrong information.
I think you misread the title of this thread
Um no i didn't.
for my eight-year-old daughter to watch. Kinda f'd up.
My girlfriend's entire family told me "Gardner is a WR, no need for him at QB" and I continually said Gardner will be our QB in 2013. Finally I got a 'good call' this weekend. Gardner is a TEAM player and I am glad he had the game he had today.
I gotta say Devin did one hell of a job today regardless of who it was against. He got off to a jittery start and kept his composure and started to find his rythym. And I love Denard as much as the next guy but we have to admit that Denard is a great athlete but Devin is a WAY better QB and he seems to provide Borges with the ability to call a more balanced game which makes everyone better. I know it won't happen but I think Devin should stay at QB and Denard moved to the slot and in for a "wildcat" formation.
He's such a great kid and team player. It's awesome to see him start and perform great.
The one thing I was most impressed with was his decision making. He was decisive - he never looked confused as to what was going around him. There was one play where he went primary read, secondary read, run - no hesitation. Then you have the game awareness with the defensive offside free plays. All around solld game mentally.
And... man did he throw a nice deep ball today. He was very accurate for not really having played the position this year. Given more time and reps I'm sure those few passes that were behind receivers would be right on target.
Short week to turn in the WR card and start reading coverages and thinking like a qb. Maybe split snaps the rest of the year to protect Denard's arm and have defenses prep for multiple qbs? Also would help get him more game speed reps for 2013.
Finally, didn't notice much drop off from WR production by moving him back to qb. But, should say was just Minny.
I honestly believe that his time spent on the field at WR has helped his maturity process, develop a better appreciation for the speed of the game and generally has gotten him more comfortable in the offense. I too believe he gives us an option now at slowly developing S. Morris as opposed to throwing him into the fire and possibly causing more harm than good.
and it was only Minnesota, but Gardner looked better throwing the ball today than Denard has looked at pretty much any point this season.
No way will he ever come close to matching Denard's threat as a runner, but Denard is just not a great passer. What we saw from Gardner today, considering he has barely been practicing at QB, indicates to me that he can probably be quite a bit better of a passing QB than Denard is.
I love what Devin did today.
But will this in any way affect Denard's chances at the NFL?
I was fairly blown away by his athleticism. It pains me to say it, but the player he most reminded me of was, um, Terrelle Pryor. So in the best tradition of Fred Jackson, I'll say "He's like Terrelle Pryor, but a good person."
Incredible job today by a true Michigan Man. So happy for this kid, had a tremendous amount of poise. He didn't want to just survive the pressure situations in this game, he wanted to score. Can't wait for Denard to return, can't wait for Devin to take the reins next year.
I wanna show DG appreciation, but I don't agree with the dick comments made in the original post.
But he got sacked at least twice that I recall.
I vaguely remember his throwing motion last year being very shot put like. It looks much more refined this season.
Today made me feel much better about the rest of this year and next. Bellomy at the helm next year was not too exciting after last week.
Really great job Gardner.
You picked up your team when the team really needed you.
Keep working hard and good things will continue to happen.
I was really impressed. I thought he made some good reads and made good decisions for the most part. It certainly looks like he'll be our starter next year.
I wasn't keeping an exact count, but it seemed like Gardner was under center quite a bit. Nice to see.
I very much enjoyed watching Gardner play today. Great job!
Gardner looked much better today than he did last year (especially in his extended time vs MSU -- cue the clown music). I can now relax knowing next year may not be a complete disaster.
Was it me, or did Borges seem to call a better game with DG at QB than he normally does with Denard? I think DG is better suited to his kind of game.
That said, there's a reason that, even if that is actually true (and it may not be, since my sample size is one game against Minnesota), there's a reason they've had Denard start up to now. No one runs like him, and that's still our best weapon.
Still...I'm relieved knowing that we have a great backup, who will be a great starter next year.
I hate to say it but I think Gardner just made better decisions with the football.
I love Heard and think he should keep the starting role if healthy, but Devin's decision making is what impressed me most on the day. After that interested he just seemed to make very sound decisions in every aspect. From checking down to throwing it away to scrambling when nothing else was available. The kid played a great game and gives me hope for the future and a hope he gets that medical redshirt.
What impressed me the most was his ability to shake off that early sack and pick and settle down and play well. I had that dreadful feeling after the first few series but he turned it around and played great. He made good decisions and reads, and TD drives of 91, 90, 86 and 79 yards showed real guts and leadership. I suddenly feel better about next year.
I love his attitude. I also love Denard supporting him.
I was a bit nervous at the start of the game, especially when Devin scrambled and threw a pick. There was also a time he almost held onto the ball too long, but managed to spin and throw it away. But he settled down, and that TD bomb after a scramble was impressive.
As others have said, he was decisive - when I was thinking RUN when people were covered, he was already doing it.
It seemed to me he was under center a lot more that Denard is.
I feel much better about things if Denard lands on his elbow and has to go out. (Don't land on your elbow and have to go out!)
Small sample size, but I was thinking there's our starter next year.
Tip of the hat to him, heck i'll take the whole thing off and bow after that performance. I honestly cannot believe Gardner didn't take a single snap at QB in the Nebraska fiasco. I'd be fine with DG taking the reins again next week and really let Denard address his "boo boo's."
should be celebrated as Devin Gardner Appreciation Day annually.
Gardner played great today, but it's too bad we lost the chance to control our destiny in the Legends division because he wasn't available at QB last week. When it comes down to it, the coaches took a huge gamble when they decided to have DG practice exclusively at WR all year. Denard takes ~20 carries/game and is bound to get hurt for a spell during the season. Backup QB becomes a really important position in that kind of offense. The gamble didn't pay off and we might have lost our shot at a Big Ten title because of it. Gotta put that on Hoke, ultimately. I'm not saying we should get rid of the guy or anything, but this was an incidence of roster mismanagement. They corrected their mistake, though, and I'm looking forward to watching DG at QB in the future.
Things tend to work out.
While it is true MSU screwed the pooch today I do think that we have a decent shot.
We just got to take care of our business and things will take care of themselves.
he played well after the INT. If the offense can stay in that rhythm the rest of the season , leave DG in there.
We have to remember this was MInnesota. NW will be tougher and OSU has a much better defense. To win the next three and beyond, I think some combination of Denard and Devin is crucial to finish the season on a positive note.
If Devin plays as well or better next week, I say let play until he gives the coaches a reason to pull him.
It seems Borges calls a more consistent and logical game when Gardner is in there too. I think today proved that Denard is so unique Borges really doesn't know how to properly use his talents. If he could catch and run routes, a few plays at slot could be interesting, but I don't think his body could take the punishment.
We have to remember this was MInnesota. NW will be tougher and OSU has a much better defense.
Minnesota is not the horrible defensive team people here seem to think they are. They are 34th nationally in total defense. (OSU is 39th and Northwestern is 60th.) In terms of defensive pass efficiency, they are 16th nationally.
Our opinion of Minnesota is distorted by the fact that we destroyed them last year when their team was shorthanded and their coach was suffering health problems. They're a halfway decent team this year and should make a bowl. Northwestern should indeed be a tougher game, but that's because of their offense, not their D.
than Minnesota, not that they are great by any means. I haven't totally lost my mind.
He also had guys like Tree and Gallon making plays around him which made it great. Defense was solid. With respect to recruiting and WR prospect Treadwell I think Gardner answered a valid question for the passing game next year today! Great 180 this week and congrats to a true Michigan Man!
I know this is a DG appreciation thread, but I hope Gallon gets a ton of cred for what he did this weekend. Dude was all over the field making big plays, even in spite of that ankle tweak he did. He even went over the top of that gopher DB to high point a touchdown. He just never quits!
I thought Gardner played great.
But to the people who want him to take over, look at what our running game looked like without DENARD. Until Toussaint bust through with a gravy TD, we were under 3 ypc. Denard's running has obscured the fact that we are an awful running team for some time, IME.
Also, note that we only had 380 yards of offense - against a shit defense - which is less than we were on pace to put on Nebraska with Denard, and equivalent to what we DID put on MSU - a good defense.
I don't put this on Gardner, because he played well with what he could effect, and he's obviously not Denard with the ball in his hands. But this offense works better, now, with Robinson playing. Aside from ND, he has been an effective passer this year (the WRs have killed him - he'll they had three drops for Gardner), and he supplies his own running game despite our struggling line play.
From what I saw, it took Gardner one quarter to get his "sea legs" back as a QB. We gained nine yards of offense in the first quarter. Over the final three quarters, he - and the offense in general - was excellent. Minnesota's not that bad defensively, incidentally; they were 27th in the country in total D coming in.
I think Denard is the leader of the offense and should start when healthy, but there's no reason to downplay Gardner's performance. He doesn't (yet) bring the same threat on the ground but to be honest, I thought he looked better as a passer than Denard has all year. He was decisive, went through his reads and knew when to take off.
I wholeheartedly agree with you, Chitown -- the "Gardner over Denard" argument is not well taken. But now you know why some of us wanted to see what Gardner could do against Nebraska, when the game was still within reach but it had become clear that the offense was going nowhere under Bellomy. The "Gardner is injured" myth was exploded yesterday, and Borges has acknowledged that he took at least some QB reps recently (though not as many as this past week, obviously). So we'll always be left to speculate whether an ill-prepared Gardner could have given us more than what we saw from Bellomy -- and the Minnesota game strengthens my belief that he could have.
He looks the part and should be great next season. However, he's going to need those quick feet next season because of what our OL is going to look like.
Anyways, couldn't be happier he plays for Michigan!!
Did you see the "protection"? He needed the quick feet against Minnesota.
I think our surrounding offensive talent - particularly the line - looks pretty poor when you strip away Denards magic legs.
No qb controversy but it feels great to know michigan has a capable backup and also a veteran for 2013 to show Morris the ropes or better yet have Morris redshirt
a bunch will complain for Devin to go in.
I always knew Devin had this in him and I can't wait for next year, but I'd still rather have Denard.
I'm really happy for him. At one point when they finally announced he would be playing WR, I remember him saying his dream was still to play QB. I'm glad he got a whole game to himself. I met him at the Women's Football Academy and he's a really great guy.
Congrats to Devin for an excellent game. He certainly looked the part of a starting QB, not a converted WR, with a week of practice as QB. I think Gardner will be the starter next year, Bellomy will be the backup. I know were all super excited to get Shane under center ASAP, but I think redshirting him, will be a good idea.
Thank you, Devin!! You played a GREAT game!