Devin Funchess Pro Day feature
Just some tidbits from pro day with Funchess
I dont think there is a way to embed straight from mgoblue
Good for Funch if ran a 4.5.
Looks much better than 4.7, but no way was he 4.4
No embed? You really dropped the ball on that one.
yeah no way he ran under 4.5. that first step was so slow and he just kinda lumbers the rest of the way. someone teach that kid proper sprinter form; probably cost him millions.
40 times are just a statistic
most NFL receivers don't run a true 4.4
unless you're Calvin Johnson, in which case your 40 is equal to the number of steps required to get that distance.
The NFL Combine is laser timed - so those are real times.
This year there were 39 receivers who ran the 40:
4.2x - 1
4.3x - 3
4.4x - 15
4.5x - 11
4.6x - 8
4.7x - 1 (Devin Funchess)
~50% ran 4.4x or better.
~75% ran 4.5x or better.
But don't you know that the 4.7s at the combine is really a 4.55s. The pros ignore those times and use thier own times that they get from watching hand timing way up in the stands.
If Funchess' 4.7 is counted as a 4.55... all those other dudes ran equivalently faster. I guess JJ Nelson really ran a 4.13.
He had THE WORST 40 time of any receiver that ran.
He's too big and too talented not to. If he ran sub 4.6... that's freakish. If Karsch says 4.48...who are we to call him a liar? New England could use him as could about 10 other teams at the back half of the 1st round. Great day for Devin!
We don't have to call Karsch a liar. The electronic timing of two 40 yard dashes conducted at the NFL combine will do the talking for us.
If the knock on him was that he was inconsistent and not giving full effort during the year, 2 drastically different 40 times doesn't help that concern. Injury? Effort? Or just bad timing by hand today?
Really surprised they didn't use electronic timers. Even my high school had an electronic timer, and that was in the 90's.
Michigan was terrible last year and our coach was not pushing guys. I don't know about you, but with poor managers, I perform worse than with great ones.
yeah, I'm sure he was down playing the combine and didn't try hard.
Or maybe he just ran better today than at the combine. Everyone acts like those two sprints are the best possible for a player, even though they happen, what, 30 minutes apart? Sometimes a guy just has a bad day; it can happen.
I have my doubts he ran a 4.48, but he looked faster than at the combine, and given his size and dimensions he doesn't have to be a speed merchant to be a good WR in the pros.
March 12th, 2015 at 10:01 PM ^
Yeah, lets give New England and Tom Brady another weapon. No thanks! Go Bills! Neg me to Bolivia if you must, but being born 10 minutes away from Ralph Wilson Stadium makes me a Bills fan first and a Michigan fan second.
being an NFL fan first and college second, but I respect the opinion. I do think your Bills are primed for a breakout year if your QB can take care of the ball though.
No doubt what was used at the pro day to measure 40 times....
I just "hand timed" him on my stopwatch. 4.6. I must be new at this (I am--never tried it before).
I just timed him on my phone twice and got 4.68 both times.
March 12th, 2015 at 10:03 PM ^
So realistically he ran a 4.55-4.6 electric timed run.
March 12th, 2015 at 10:30 PM ^
If Funchess is running 4.5-4.7 that's all he needs as long as he bulks up a little, improves his hands, and improves his blocking.
It's not like receiving TEs like Jimmy Graham, Julius Thomas, and Rob Gronkowski blow guys away. They're fast enough to be dangerous, sure... but it's not their speed that makes them dangerous.
Did you not see the video? His 40 was OMG shirtless!
Jimmy Graham is 2" taller, 30 lbs heavier, and ran a legit 4.56... and was a 3rd round pick.
Julius Thomas is 1" taller, 15 lbs heavier and ran a legit 4.65... and was a 4th round pick.
Rob Gronkowski is 2" taller, 30 lbs heavier, and ran a 4.68... and he was a 2nd round pick... and can actually play TE, not just glorified wide receiver.
March 12th, 2015 at 11:35 PM ^
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March 12th, 2015 at 11:42 PM ^
don't really give a shit about official NFL combine times. They use their own guys to hand time prospects in 40 yard dash. They use 3 guys and basically average them out between the three to get their official 40 time on a prospect. They said that electronic timer are a bit unreliable because they start as soon as they see first movement. So if the arm moves first before the body moves, the time starts.
FWIW, I've heard from a couple teams that they had Funchess timed at 4.55 at the combine which is a great time for a guy in his size. They made a note that Funchess technique is a bit sloppy which contribute to the 4.7 time from the NFL's electronic timer.
March 13th, 2015 at 12:02 AM ^
This is a good point. Bad sprinting technique, while bad for 40 times, probably will have little to no effect on him as a football player.
However it DOES speak to him being a little bit thick-headed about his future. You would think a guy really driven to maximize his future potential would have been working on things like that before the combine.
Then again, supposedly Tom Brady had one of the worst combines in history in terms on stuff like the 40-yard dask and shuttle drill. Afterwards he said "why would I care about that stuff--I'll never do crap like that as a QB". I guess he was right. So judging a player strictly on some drills can be a huge mistake.
working on route running, getting off jams at the line, and catch rate would be put before improving fractions of unrestricted straight line speed in no pads, but that's just me. Just personally, I've never put much stock in 40 times unless it jumps off the charts. I see what you're saying about trying to improve all aspects though.
March 13th, 2015 at 12:08 AM ^
at the combine but that's pretty close to 4.55 where I've heard from a couple teams. Funchess most definitely ran 4.45-4.55 today which is encouraging. Haven't heard the official time at 3 cone but I heard he was really fast at that drill. Funchess also looks real good catching the ball.
All things considered with the depth of WR class which is deep, Funchess should be a solid 2nd rounder.
The NFL combine website still has him at 4.70s so I don't know where you are getting 4.61s from.
March 13th, 2015 at 12:13 AM ^
That's plenty fast. He's going to be a steal for somebody. 6ft5 240 and running sub 4.6......uh yes please.
I did the One Mississippi, Two Mississippi technique and had him at 3.7 seconds. That's Three Missi for those of you counting at home.
At the combine he measured at 6'4" and 232lbs and wasn't anywhere close to 4.6s
That 40 time is terrible. Hand timed home cooked for sure. For reference Denard Robinson's Combine 40 time was 4.43s.
March 13th, 2015 at 12:30 PM ^
come on man, he is pretty fast for his size and is a potentially very good prospect.
March 13th, 2015 at 12:33 PM ^
I was unclear but I meant terrible in the sense that it has to be fake. How does he trim 0.22s off of his 40 time in less than a month.
March 13th, 2015 at 12:55 PM ^
based on the NFL team's timers from combine. They don't go by 4.7. They go by their hand timers which is around 4.55 at the combine.
Dude come on. Denard Robinson ran a 4.43s at the combine and he was a track star. Are you really saying that Funchess ran 0.05s slower than Denard?
NFL scouting report on Funchess is Slow, Big-bodied WR, with inconsistent hands. No interest in blocking limits ability to be converted to TE.
I know works in the NFL.