Final tweet for a while: I just got a text. I can confirm Devin Booker will, indeed, commit to Kentucky today at 4 pm ET
that's unfortunate, but at least the interest is there on both sides
I'll believe it when I see it.
Did you see that?
.....the pull of the Calipari is strong.
The "pull" of green in the bluegrass state is stronger than any that Calipari might have. UK boosters apparently operate a state of the art player procurement machine, and the NCAA never seems to be able to figure out that anything is going on.
Calipari's main "pull" that he has removed all pretense of following rules and publicly encourages one and dones to play for him.
If you were an extremely talented high school basketball player and you wanted to play in the NBA, would you seriously not go to Kentucky? It's hard to beat regardles of what extralegal benefits they provide.
Depends on if you care about your collegiate legacy.
Also, can't you go basically anywhere and play for one year and go to the NBA if you are a NBA level talent?
I remember a young man going to "the big school" at that time and being treated like shit (in his opinion) and then going to a little place called Indiana State... if I remember correctly he did quite well for himself.
Who cares about a collegiate legacy if you're going to be in the NBA in a year or two. Say what you want about him, but Coach Cal is the best in the business at sending guys to the NBA at the moment.
PLenty of people care about collegiate legacy. McGary cares about it.
In football , Lewan cares about it.
College is fun, man.
Its kind of absurd to condemn these guys for not "caring about their collegiate legacy" when they never wanted to go to college in the first place. Using our guys and football as examples are not apropos either. These one and done kids are forced to go to college and the spectacle/ joke in Kentucky is the byproduct.
Can you imagine if Garnett, Kobe or Lebron had to care about their "collegiate legacy"?
I still feel like (barring elimination of the rule altogether) the one and dones should be ble to pre-agency, participate in a draft readiness combine. If they get a passing grade, they can submit and forego college. They should have a hardship exception too. Then the kids who truly aren't ready have to go to college overseas or wait. Kids who are ready get to stop making a mockery of the student-athlete.
This is very true.
The rule is lame. I am so pro civil liberty (no polo) that it actually makes me angry that a kid isn't "allowed" to make money... anyway.
You are correct.
Garnett actually wanted to go to Michigan. It was only when it started to look like he wouldn't be academically qualified that he decided to go pro.
so kids who don't care about collegiate legacy could skip it and go right to playing professionally. One-and-done ruins college basketball.
Exactly. Why do people assume because Kentucky is getting top recruits in basketball or Alabama in football that its because they're paying players? Maybe it's because the track record of sending players to the pros speaks for itself.
Because UK does pay their players.
There is no proof of it now but history says it is certainly possible. They were administered a 1952 version of the death penalty and nearly got it again in '89. They have gotten in trouble several other times. So in addition to a history of desperate boosters you have a coach who has left every program he coached on probation. Again, not proved, but definitely possible.
WORD WIDE WES.
He is the reason Kidd-Gilchrist was picked so high.
He is the reason that Noel even got picked after a botched knee surgery.
He is the reason you get these recruiting classes at UK:
2013 : # 2, 5, 7, 9 nationally ranked players
2012: # 2, 8, 14 nationally ranked players
2011: # 2, 3, 5 nationally ranked players
Cal is not a great coach. Look at how his teams roll over when they aren't front running. The kids are tremendous talents that are funneled to UK in order to be signed later to the NBA. Easy stuff.
If you're an NBA-level guy coming out of high school, does it really matter where you go to school?
Actually, UK has the problem of recruiting so many guys every year that playing time is iffy for some of them.
Calipari's pull is Worldwide.
His main pull is that his teams compete for a championship pretty much every year and his guys go on to get drafted highly in the nba, the man has had very few highly rated players turn in to busts. And contrary to what a lot of people think he's not just a great recruiter he is a great coach, his teams always play some pretty outstanding defense.
Is dirty, you probably don't believe that we landed on the moon. Rivals just gave the strongest insinuations of nefarious tactics that I've ever seen them give.
Of course they are dirty, but a lot of interviews with former players show that those illegal benefits tend to not be a huge decididng factor, partly because so many schools do it but also because kids are pretty smart about their decisions. I really doubt $500 a month or whatever is really the decididing factor. Have you ever been to a basketball game at kentucky? it makes crisler seem like a high school atmosphere, their practice facility is absurd, they have a dorm with extra long beds, and basketball is the bigger sport. Those are all advantages they have over michigan that has nothing to do with illegal benefits (unless you think the dorm is skirting the line)
At UMass it was "money, jewelry, rental cars and prostitutes." And that was UMass.
Of course Calipari had nothing whatever to do with any of that. Or with anything that happened at Memphis. And he has absolutely nothing to do with anything that might or might not be going down at UK.
Can you elaborate or refraining from posting pay-site material (which is totally ok if you don't want to.)
Balas pretty much said the off the court "pressure" is extremely hard to turn down.
Balas claims that he strongly suspects Michigan has lost 2 players (ranked lower than 20-30 in th nation) to "shenanigans."
Balas also says there isobvious cheating going on with the national elite players.
All I can say is if you honestly believe UK isn't dirty dirt dirt than you have your head in the sand. Not to say they are the only ones, but it's fucking blatant. I mean look at their last class... seriously.
but if Kentucky is, in fact, paying its recruits, then presumably Booker and Blackmon have already been offered "extra benefits". The fact that they are still considering Kentucky suggests that they are open to being bought---in which case I would then like to think we don't really want them. Kinda like a player who considers throwing a game or a politician almost taking a bribe.
So perhaps at least these two haven't been offered money or perhaps Kentucky isn't always buying, despite the rumors. I don't know which way it really is, but I think it has to be one or the other. [And I am well aware of Calipari's history, along with his "bagman" Wes Wesley.] But we have to quit always blaming losing a kid (like Treadwell) on the other program cheating-- if they come here they are good guys, if not, then they were bought.
Every time a recruit commits to someone other than Michigan, you pull out the "DEY GITTIN' PAID" schtick. You know, the guy does have a great track record of putting players in the lottery.
I was typing while you were posting
OMG - Ok here is how it is done. There is a man who walks the floors of the AAU circuit. His name is William Wesley. William Wesley is NOT an agent. He is however affiliated with most NBA agents. He has been in the inner circle of D-Rose, Rip Hamilton, LeBron, AI, etc.
He promises these recruits lucritive contracts (as long as they sign with his guys when they reach the pros) upon their LOI to a particular program. He has been funneling kids to UK and used to send kids to Memphis. The way the rules are written, he can get away with it. It really isn't as hard to understand as you people think it is. It happens other places too, but Cal has a best buddy with one of the most important figures in basketball (AAU, NCAA and NBA).
For those who think it can't be? It be.
Not sure what to do with your one-and-done year because you can't seem to land a qualifying score on a board exam? We can handle that.
Don't feel like going to the trouble of pulling someone from the hotel bar while you're on the road, or you want some higher-end talent to take your mind off the big game? That can be arranged.
And as a client you will NOT have to worry about any green-room embarrassment on draft day.
Of course I don't know what's behind any particular recruit's decision, but the idea that this all stopped when Calipari took the UK job is laughable.
I am not saying - and I don't think anyone is saying - that Booker in particular is going to Kentucky because of money or other benefits. However, Calipari absolutely benefits from street agents like Worldwide Wes. He also gets the occassional help from Jay-Z, who just happens to befriend (and give benefits to) players whom Cal is recruiting.
This link doesn't prove anything, but it will give you a flavor of who Worldwide Wes is:
in whole or part---I already referenced Wesley, so I am well-familiar with the stories (and likely truth). My point is why are we okay with players who come down to Kentucky/schools that cheat and Michigan--so long as they pick Michigan? I don't want anyone even thinking of taking money?
I was responding to Dirty Harry.
I just don't think that what you wrote is a reality in this society we have created. It's nice to think that players would turn a blind eye to that type of activity, but
A) In my opinion they shouldn't be forced to play one year of collegiate ball anyway so why "do it the right way?"
B) Where are the consequences? We have seen time and time again (recently anyway... they sure gave us the big ram with the FabFive) that there are little to no ramifications of playing dirty. We are a society based on rules, but rules with severe consequences. Without justice, there are no rules.
a) I know about the Worldwide Wes thing.
b) My comment is pointed at Tater, who accuses just about ever player who commits to another school of getting paid by that school, as if kids have no other incentive to commit to UK, or Alabama for football. I know, must be the money ...
And I suck at embeds:
This is Tater we're talking about. He also used to frequently blame Izzo for the Ed Martin scandal. I'm sad he took his Tinfoil Hat Sports Blog link out of his sig, it clearly labelled his nuttiness.
Don't be that guy. Cal is a great recruiter with a track record of getting guys to the NBA. Posts like yours just look like butt hurt second teir fan base whining. seriously.
...that was my point. Not sure why you put parentheses around why as if to debate it.
Calipari has been so successfull (vacated or not) because he dispenses with the bullshit. I may not like the man, and being a Lexington resident I see my fair share of him but he calls a spade a spade.
Had the same traditions as April 1st....
Ive been checking this blog all morning HOPING not to see a thread just like this one. C'mon Blackmon...Go Blue baby!!!
If they don't both want to up at the same school playing the same position, this could be potentially great news for us.
The problem is that the not playing at the same school thin is pure speculation. Recruits make weird decisions all the time.
I hope he suffers a...papercut.
What a dick*. The kid is six hours from making an announcement, just let him do it.
*That Chip guy, not the OP.
These kids get to do this once in their lives. They should be able to do it as they see fit.
If the recruit wants to make this "once in a lifetime" announcement, then they shouldn't tell anyone.
That's funny because every Kentucky insider I've read has said that this is strictly a Kentucky-UM battle and that Blackmon didn't even stay for IU's exhibition game on his visit this weekend. Point is we really don't know until he announces later tonight.
Sam Webb is giving IU a legitimate shot at landing him. IU is factor unfortunately.