I loved how the DFP tried to almost single handlely ruin the atmosphere of the press conference, and Brady shut em down....I hate the Free Press....Fuck em Fuck em Fuuuuuuck em
I agree, minus the language.
I agree, plus the language. Fuck them.
Its from a moment during a show he had
Sorry didn't mean to bash the OP. I'm ready to run through a wall right now too. Just looking out for some of the people on this site with kids or kids on the site who might take offence. I personally concur with the verbiage used.
Press conference video http://www.mgoblue.com/allaccess/?media=221155.
He slunk away and wrote a hack-job piece to which I will not link. He would write an attack piece no matter what Michigan did.
Can one of my fellow MGoBloggers who love to transcode stuff like this to YouTube make a non-browser crippling version please? :)
Thanks in advance!
P.S. Or at least the Sharp part - I love seeing a good smack down!
videos on that site never play for me, probably have to have subscription, don't you?
A while ago it didn't play for me either, but it works just fine now.
It's pathetic the levels that Rosenberg and Sharp stoop to. UM should revoke these two clowns' media passes and have the DFP send someone more competent, ethical, and respectful.
After seeing how Hoke handled him. I am looking forward to many beatdowns at these press conferences
Haha I know I loved how Hoke just shot him down time and again. The future interviews with Hoke and them will be interesting.
I was emailing my buddies that I couldn't wait for Sharp to pipe up at the presser. That was the best part by far!. I like how Hoke answered him, then Sharp being the sniveling pin dick he is tried rephrasing it and asking again...Hoke replied, I know what you're saying, but we can't go anywhere without winning the Big 10. Basically, shut the fuck rob parker jr, I don't know you and will not take your bullshit...
Fuk yo coach freep!
I did like that about Hoke - he was able to keep the Free Press at bay. Some reporters just don't seem to let go.
For those that didn't see and can't watch the video at work - what happened?
Hoke said the goal of the team is to win conference championships. Drew Sharp asked why they wouldn't play for national championships, and called conference titles "consolation prizes." Hoke pointed out that you can't get to the national championship without winning your conference, so teams should focus first and foremost on winning the Big 10. Sharp then asked repeated questions in line with his recent "Michigan is a regional, not national, program" meme, and Hoke responded by repeatedly pointing out that you have to win the conference before you can even have a shot at the national title.
Thanks. More of the same from that dickhead. I'm in wonderment at how he is employed by anyone. If I did my job like he does his, I'd be living in a van down by the river.
If you own a home that is mobile and fourteen cars that are not, you might be a redneck.
As Brian predicted, Rosenbag has done a 180. I'd be fired up if he admitted to acting without journalistic integrity in trying to take down our program.
It's easy when the guy you have a personal ax to grind with is gone.
Still a douchebag.
I can't help but think the real Pimp Hand belongs to Lloyd.
Why was he so silent during the whole Freep Jihad?
I know I'll get killed for this, but part of me thinks he might have had a hand in Rosenberg's hatchet job on RR.
Yes Loyd Carr is responsible for all the evil in the world. He was allso the invisible hand behind Saddam's regime.
Did anybody ever notice that Loyd never seemed to like the press when he was the coach? So why would he mess around with the press anymore when it's no longer his job?
I liked him better as Danny Tanner.
Did you know he slept with both of the Olsen twins?
cause that would be weird
I let him come to one practice, and let suit up for an “Oklahoma Drill” as RB vs. Demens/Martin. Then in about 20 years when he gets out of his coma, I might let him back into the facility…Maybe.
Love this idea.
I agree with the question. Is the goal to win national championships or B1G championships? They are not one in the same and they don not come hand in hand. The opportunity to play in a national championship game comes with winning B1G championships, but winning that game is completely different especially given that the goal is a B1G championship. Bo never won a national championship and I think it has a great deal to do with this mindset. Once you meet your goal there is a sense of completion and an intensity and focus let down.
After the last three years, let's focus on getting back to our rightful place winning the Big Ten year in and year out.
Haven't you learned anything from Love Day?
OK, but this hire is for life like Hoke said. The question is important. Drew Sharp might be an asshole, but the question is a good one and Hoke did a lot of pep-up and coach speak, but as far as actually answering that question he really didn't do a great job of addressing the part of the question about national championships. Brady Hoke flat out said that national championships aren't the goal. If that is the case then what are we here for? It was one of the only questions that was worth ansking. Ermani asked how humbling it was for alumni to be there for him... uhhh very? What kind of question is that? What other answer could you possibly imagine for that question? It was stupid. The Sharp question was not.
Step 1. Win Conference Championship
Step 2. Get selected to National Championship Game
Step 3. Win National Championship Game
You can't get to steps 2 or 3 without step 1. Step 2 is also out of his control. So, you might as well focus on what you can control. Conference Championships are always within our control while National Championships are not. If we get into the game, then it's in our control again and we can worry about it then.
As a side note, the goal is not to win Rose Bowls, but once we get selected to the Rose Bowl after winning the Conference it does become our goal.
if he had said that by winning the big ten we would automatically be a national contender. It just sounded to old school, meat-head big 10 to me. If it is an elite school, than why not just say we want to be a national title contender? I love his passion though... that was good to see. and anytime he snaps at drew dull, I'm all in.
Oklahoma and Nebraska.
I didn't have a problem with Sharp's question the FIRST time...it was when he tried the same question 2 additional times that I wanted him dead, and was glad at least Hoke made him stop talking.
I hear what you're saying, and for the most part agree. But it also seems that the whole National Championship game is a crap shoot anymore. I mean, the system we have isn't really one that invites any real confidence that we've anointed the best team in the nation (at least from my perspective).
I don't know. Control the games you know you're going to play in and the rest is just kind of out there somewhere with a possibility attached to it.
I also might be giving Coach Hoke to much credit, but who knows. This is literally the first time I have seen the guy speak in public.
Getting to the NCS and winning the MNC depends on many factors. Among those which have been defined are:
1. Winning a lot of games and being conference champs - going either undefeated or having a early close loss. (except for maybe Notre Dame)
2. Hope that the teams you beat continue to win and beat other good teams.
3. Hope that your public relationships impress voters and pundits from around the country who never actually see your team play a whole game, and look at the final score or what they heard.
4. Hope your team isn't plagued by injuries and crazy game changing bad calls.
No doubt there are other things on this list like weird things coming out like selling game gear for tatoos and getting free cars which can affect things.
Of these many factors the one thing a HC can have a direct effect on is number one, winning games. Too much is made about setting this goal or that goal. OK, we get it, we want to be back in the discussion for the MNC, but let's try to win the Big 10 before we jump ahead. After the past 3 years if we are playing games in November which help decide the Big 10 title rather than if we can get to 6 or 7 games, that will be the first step. I understand the notion that Drew Sharp was advancing that over the past several years dating back to beyond the RR era, the influence of Michigan on the national college football scene has waned - we aren't the leaders in tactics and strategy and we aren't where all the stars are playing, etc. etc. But if we want to get back there, let's focus on what can be done and what is within our power to do something about. Talking about winning the MNC might be cute and make for a good quote, but I'd rather have a coach who was all business and worked towards winning games - the conference titles will follow and we'll be part of the conversation for the MNC. Historically each year there has been a team which has done everything in its power to win out and get to the BCS championship game, and do end up undefeated and untied, and yet still didn't make it, so this belief that getting there is a goal within one's control is a fallacy.
Just goes to show how media can really help someone in having a positive perception. I have not seen the PC and I want to, but from what I gather, it would have taken a complete idiot to not hit that PC out of the park. Still excited to see the exchange with Drew Sharp.
Until there is a playoff, there is no control a coach has over getting team into the national championship game. For example, Gary Patterson did everything he could this year - they went 13-0 and won a BCS Bowl. It was 100% successful season - it's not his fault there were two other 12-0 teams that got to play for the natl championship.
I'm fine with the focus "Let's just win the games in front of us, and let the chips fall where they may."
HOWEVA, I will sort of agree that there is more to the life than the B1G (if you want to be an elite program). If we lose to ND and Alabama, and then go 7-1 winning a B1G championship, that's a good season, but certainly not what we should be shooting for as our highest goal.
I like what other coaches have said - our goal is to win the Rose Bowl. That's a little higher and speaks to doing well in all your games - conf and nonconf.
... on his radio sho-- er, maybe not.
Really? Bo never coached in today's climate where rules are in place requiring you to be a conference champ in order to play in the NC. I think Hoke's thinking is perfect. Take care of the conference championship first
The NC is not entirely in any team's control. Why focus on it?
It's a matter of setting goals. You don't set a goal of something when that something leads to another step that needs completion before the job is finished. It leads to letdowns in that next step.
Well, you're certainly entitled to that line of thinking, but I believe the goal should be winning the B10 Championship. I have rarely heard a coach say otherwise from any of the big conferences. They focus on winning the conference first because failure to do so takes you out of the NC picture.
To me, focusing on the B10 first is key. If you focus on the NC, put yourself in a position to get there, but for some CPU randing or random voter, you fail to get in, how much of a letdown is that??? I think that would kill the morale of a team more.
If you focus and get the Championship, and lose out on the NC due to a CPU or voter, you certainly have a lot to prove in whatever big bowl game you're in. Ask TCU how they feel right now.
If the team ONLY won a conference championship next season, would you say we didn't accomplish our goal?
I'd have no problems if Hoke's career here looks like Bo's.
Despite consistently fielding national championship contenders, Carroll's goal for USC every season was to win the Pac-10 Conference and go to the Rose Bowl. In explaining why, Carroll noted "We can only control getting to the Rose Bowl. [...] Our goal isn't about national championships, because we don't have control of that – that's in somebody else's hands. We found that out years ago , when we were No. 1 but then we were No. 3."
Bo never coached in a national championship game. There wasn't one. If you look at his records, you'll see there are a few one loss seasons where if they had won the Big Ten, they would have probably been playing for a national title in the bowl (although who knows with the politics of it back then). There is one year where we were undefeated (1971) when we did go to the Rose Bowl and lose...but I don't know if that's because they "let up." Far more instances where the former occurred. Winning the Big Ten is the goal and everything after that will fall into place.
control if you play in a NC game, but you can control winning the B10.
Unless there is a playoff, playing in the NC game is based on voting, so as a team, the goal should be to win the conference and hope that the voters select you to play in the NC game.
Build your team to win the conference Championship (ie. defeat that school in Ohio) and the rest will take care of itself.
Brady Hoke said, "Look at my rings bitch! Have you ever seen me play SCRABBLE!"
Drew Sharp then proceeded to soil himself.
It is becomming abundantly clear that Hoke isn't going to take any of the shit that Rodriguez took from the FREEP. No more Mr. Nice guy.
sharp wrote an article today which went along with his question at the press conference....title states "Michigan shows it wont be like SEC" what a douche
That title could be construed as a good thing, right?
He was pimping that idea on the DP show today as well before the PC. Can't believe he gets on all those national shows for interviews. Worst possible selection.
don't waste it reading his crap
Sorry Mr. Robinson no $180,000 for you
Don't know what the rest of the article says, but I take that as a compliment. This is clearly not the SEC. When the SEC starts following the recruiting rules properly like the B10, we'll see how we compare then.
For giving us the highlight of the press conference. Watching Hoke slap him sideways was awesome
Before anybody lets Rosenberg into the circle to sing Kumbaya, let's have a look at something:
Rosenberg, January 4, 2011:
I have zero doubt that [Harbaugh] wants the Michigan job.
Exactly one week later, on January 11, we had David Brandon saying that the job was never offered to Harbaugh:
Michigan athletic director Dave Brandon picked Hoke as his new football coach Tuesday, insisting he was Plan A and not a backup option after Harbaugh left Stanford for the San Francisco 49ers and Miles stayed at LSU.
"The job was never offered to them," Brandon said in an interview with The Associated Press Tuesday after informing the team of his decision. "We did have different discussions with them that were helpful and positive."
And oh yes I do love the fact that the Brandon quote about how he never offered the job to Harbaugh or Miles was given to the Associated Press' Larry Lage, not a Free Press writer. It is actually hard to find that quote anywhere at Freep.com now. It's as if Brandon never said it.
But he did say it, and it raises one hell of a question. Did Michigan somehow fail to get Harbaugh because Brandon just didn't think to offer him the job? Did he forget? Um, probably not. So what's the real story? Well, according to Rosenberg, Harbaugh would have come to Michigan if asked. But Brandon said that Harbaugh wanted to go to the NFL, and so "never offered" the Michigan job.
I think the way to make sense of all of this is, as is so often the case, is to presume that Michael Rosenberg is, and was, wrong. That when he was selling the idea of "Harbaugh to Michigan," he was promoting two personal goals at once. One goal was to hustle the premature firing of Rich Rodriguez, on the presumption that Jesus Harbaugh was just waiting for the go-ahead to hop on a jet to Ann Arbor. The other was the idea, that apparently had Rosenberg drooling, that his personal topic for the year in 2010 -- the Brothers Harbaugh -- would become his personal project in Ann Arbor for years to come. (I see The Harbaugh Story, by Jim Harbaugh with Michael Rosenberg hitting the shelves of local bookstores in the fall of 2024.)
Rosenberg was wrong. Harbaugh did NOT want the Michigan job.
You may recall the interview of either or both Rosenberg and Snyder, regarding how they HAD to maintain their ethics and integrity, not root for the teams they were covering, etc. Reading that tweet, knowing of his SI blurbs, the fawning article about JH, the continual sliming of RichRod...it's hard to see that his personal biases didn't enter EVERY facet of his coverage of U-M football, but not to the betterment of the program, the team, or the fan. Unbelievable.
IIRC, Rosenberg was the one who was really unhappy when the SC Playoff went to a Game 6 in Pittsburgh 3 years ago, because it meant he had to fly overnight to Pittsburgh, and no, he wouldn't root for the Wings or feel pride they'd won. He was an ethical journo. How that got changed, will anyone ever know?
Of course, contrast with the glowing, biased, fan-friendly coverage MSU sports have received since the Jemele Hill days, carrying forward unabated to this day.
Sorry for the hijack...just annoyed
I wouldn't get too worked up over the conference championship vs. national championship stuff that Sharp was going on about. Bo never gave a damn about winning the Rose Bowl. He saw it as the prize for beating Ohio State. I just liked Hoke's answer to the question: I got the fuckin' rings and you don't, so shut your cakehole.
hated the softball questions. We wanted Lloyd gone in part due to our lack of success on a national level. We haven't won a BCS game since the 2000 Orange Bowl. And we lost 6 of 7 to Tressel with Lloyd. I think it was a fair question. Why do Alabama, Florida and USC get to talk about aspiring to success on the national stage?
I was okay with Hoke's answer, but he had to field something difficult this afternoon.
Yes, the media was a disaster during coach-hunt 2011. But jeez. It's not as if Brian distinguished himself in the accuracy and analysis departments.