Well there's your problem....
Well there's your problem....
anyone outside the program gives a flying fuck what RR said/did at a freaking banquet? And who the fuck cares what MSU/OSU fans say about it, they're our fucking rivals and of course they're going to make fun of it. But tell me, why the fuck do I care about their opinions again?
People make fun of Michigan for The Horror. They do not make fun of us for what a coach says at a banquet.
And your last paragraph, specifically your fake-quote...why does he have to use coachspeak IN FRONT OF HIS OWN DAMN TEAM?
Oh, Boo-Hoo! Someone might laugh at something about a team I like b/c of something that the coach did. Whaaaaaaah! Whaaaaaaaaaah!
going to get into personal attacks, because after all, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. BUT, this really shouldn't surprise anyone. Foster often alludes to his connections to the "Michigan Mafia". In fact, someone earlier said Foster probably wanted to please his buddy Mikey... but more likely he was trying to please his "connections".
That is, of course, making the giant assumption they exist.
oh the irony we find on a daily basis.
The wrong place and format to plead your case to save your job. It was selfish and totally inappropriate.
Can anyone imagine BO doing this???? Remember it is about the TEAM nothing but the TEAM and yet RR makes it about himself. That alone is enough to let him go now before he does more damage to the image of Michigan football.
far from an entrenched Rod supporter. That being said, I kinda thought what he did was damn inspiring. Sure, you can say he made it about himself. But, you can also look at it like he really does love the program and it means so much, and while he knows he hasn't preformed, he believes he can get the job done.
Bo would never have done this because he never had to deal with the microwave culture and insta news. Rich was just trying to show everyone he is all in.
Terry Foster must have a small penis.
just continues to plumb new lows.
Valenti and Foster are just ripping Rich Rod to shreds on 97.1
I have no particular admiration for Foster. But you know a guy has won the argument when those who disagree with him respond with nothing but fat jokes and penis jokes.
You've proved his points. You've done exactly that which you pretend to reject. He wins by default.
regardless of how he has judged the outcomes, is not doing a very good job with his new 'marketing' campaign.
We are entering a Salvador Dali nightmare.
As much as I hate Valenti and Foster, he's right. What Rod did has no business in Michigan football. Would Bo have had the team get up hold hands and sing a song like that with arms swaying? Would Bo have sat there and basically beg fr his job in tears? I think that whole situation made the program look bad. That's just my ipinion.
Mind you I have been a Rodriguez supporter ever since he's been here. This is just getting embarrasing. The only thing that would have made it worse is if G Robinson wiped Rods tears away with his stuffed animal.
FWIW, Pete Caroll used to pull stunts like this on a weekly basis at USC. He brought the guy who sang "Lean On Me" into a team meeting for a singalong/lovefest.
Point is, when you lose, everything you do is wrong. When you win, nobody gives a shit.
No business in Michigan football? Why? Who cares what motivational tactics Schembechler uses, every coach is taught to be themselves when they coach. If coaches want to pretend they are hardasses all the time then fine they can lie all they want. Do you really think Bo was never vulnerable in his life or showed emotion? A real man like RR doesn't really think of the ramifications of a bunch of people who live by the ideal that real men never cry. Contrary to popular belief some real tough men do breakdown and reach out to people instead of holding things inside. Vince Lombardi was known to cry in front of players, Ray Lewis has cried in front of teammates, Brett Favre who has played through pain more than any other person has cried several times. Who the hell cares if some jackasses like Valenti and Foster think that crying is some sign of weakness.
I never got the impression from listening to the speech that RR was begging for his job, more like uniting the fanbase, administrators, and the team. Ok, most of the people on this blog don't like the choice of songs but if the song moves RR to tears because of the lyrics or whatever, let him enjoy the damn song. It's not particularly moving to me but a lot of songs bring different emotions to different people and they aren't dragged through the coals because of their musical taste. By the way maybe Valenti and Foster need to cry a little more, they are obviously filled with hate when you listen to them talk.
The last three years have really ruined my feelings toward the general UM community. I can't have a conversation about the football program without it descending into belligerent self-righteousness. UM football has become almost impossible to enjoy.
I think he's an unusually genuine guy. This seems to be off-putting to a lot of people. I feel sorry for those people. In the name of being clever they employ a cynicism that, in the case of RR, makes them fools.
now there's a man who deserves to lose his job.
When Josh Groban makes fun of you for listening to Josh Groban it IS embarassing.
Not reading. Not listening.
Sadly, this is the state of things right now IMO. My first defense to everything is "earmuffs" or "blinders". It keeps me only slightly insane instead of completely insane.
Well, since I've started, I might as well finish. My parents never went to college, but were born and raised in Michigan, and for some reason or another were Michigan fans and raised me as such. After getting accepted to Michigan, my father couldn't have been prouder, and was excited for e to go to my first game at the Big House. Since that day, he's seen me grow into an even bigger fan than he and my mother combined.
When it comes to questions about the team and the program, I am the source for my folks, and whenever my dad talks about it at work (he's surrounded by Sparty and Irish fans), he uses me as a reference. However, my dad has ceased to ask me my thoughts about the program and the team as of late, and I think I finally know why.
I'm tired, I'm fed up, I'm angry and I'm sad, and I'm pretty sure he can see it in my eyes. He knows that any question will just bring pain and rants about "CC", the bust, bowl games, 7-5, DB, and a whiny fanbase. I used to talk about things like Heisman, the spread, prolific offense, depleted defense, and Denard's smile.
Do you see the difference? All the fun has been sucked out of the conversation. MGoBlog was my haven, a place where I could go and get away from the 97.1's and Rosenberg's of the world to have intelligent conversation that wasn't the same shit over and over again. I still love this blog, because I know people on here are intelligent and thoughtful and they care (sometimes TOO much, just like me), but lately, it's been a vacuum of depression, personal attacks, and gutter comments. The only way I could stay active recently was to be cynical and sarcastic (one of my best skills), and sometimes humorous, but, recently, coming onto the blog has just become painful, knowing that all I'm gonna get is the same conversation over and over again.
I think I'm gonna take a bit of a hiatus. I know it won't last because I know the blog is great and I need a "sane" and intelligent outlet for my Michigan fandom, but it's just becoming unbearable. I pray it's only temporary. Wake me up when we're in a bowl, then let me sleep until the blog isn't cluttered with articles and threads about hating OUR program, OUR coach, and OUR players. It was only 6 years ago that I cried the first time I walked into the Big House, yet it seems oh so far away. Innocence is a fickle bitch.
Yea, and Go Blue! Everyone else can go fuck themselves.
I've been experiencing many of the same feelings. This literally is the only place I can do my M sports thing, but there have been times I couldn't take the MGoDiscourse and simply had to lay low. I keep coming back because there is no better place, but sometimes I just can't take it.
Thats great! I feel the same way, especially the whiny fans. I dont want to be that guy and I love Michigan football but they act like Michigan football was a dynasty that won NC after NC. I would see Michigan win 9-10 games, Finish top 3 and go to a bowl games, often to get blown out by USC, Texas, or a superior opponent. Then App State happened and fans cried that they wanted Lloyd Carr gone, well he "retired". The Herbstreit story came out about Les Miles and then that was a lie and we were presented with Rich Rodriguez. I loved the hire but many fans complained "its not Michigan football!" even though the teams that were winning ran similar offenses.
The fact is that half of the fan base were against Coach Rodriguez from the start, the other half (we) have spent the last 3 years defending Rodriguez. I understand that most coaches dont coach both sides of the ball, they have coordinators and coaches for the side that they lack which was the defensive side of the ball. The defense just hasnt panned out at all and now a potentially dangerous team is losing to the better teams because the offense has to score 45 a game.
I really think that Rodriguez is a great coach but I dont know if he can succeed at Michigan because of the whiny fans who complain because RR isnt a "Michigan Man"....get serious. Maybe if the coach had the support of the fans and AD he wouldnt be losing out on top recruits scared that he'll be gone.
I moved to Chicago over a year ago and needed my Detroit sports fix, so I'd listen to Valenti & Foster every once in a while and boy is their show AMATUER! I have never once listened to a whole show, I actually havent listened to them in probably about 4-5 months. All they do is cut callers off and try to install bully tactics on why they're right and you're wrong. I now listen to ESPN1000 in Chicago and Carmen, Yurko, and Harry show in the evenings...now thats a show! I wish they had a show like that for Detroit sports talk.
Foster has no credibility. OK so he's on a mid day show with a Sparty homer and went to CMU...where exactly their does it say that their opinion is any bit more valid than ours? We are the Michigan fans, our opinions are the ones that count.
Terry Foster. I think Sam Webb summed him up best a couple months back.
Sam Webb is just another clown in the circus...he's on rinky dink radio, and a UM cheerleader on the Scout site. He's fun if you want a pick me up, but if you want insight, knowledge or honesty, he's not the man to listen to.
Webb's the only credible source of UM football info in the market.
Double post :(
I didn't read the article, but from the comments here on a blog from people who've read it, it sounds like an embarrassment to the Detroit News. Foster has destroyed a once great newspaper with his lack of grammatical control. He has also failed to foster an enviroment of compliance with the basic tenants of journalism. He would fit in much better at a newspaper like "The National Enquirer". I bet he'd do well there.
Seriously though, did anyone criticizing Rodriguez actually listen to the speech? It was pretty moving I thought, and the only time he got "emotional" was when he was talking about how much he cares about the young men in his program. This is a good thing, and if you don't think so get the fuck out of my fanbase.
I DONT GIVE A FUCK
what the media says.
The words that come out of DB's mouth are all that matter
I came into this thread hoping to make a witty comment about how Foster calling anyone else an embarassment was a classic example of pot/kettle....clearly I was beaten to the punch.